I just saw, and was wondering if someone would post it here. It was always going to happen. Anyone retarded enough to fully abandon physical media will have it happen to them too. You let Valve ruin the video game marketplace already and kill physical PC media (yes the people on this site too, some of you ride Gabe Newell's dick like a pornstar), and now retards are letting Sony and Microsoft do the same and happily gobbling it down. The writing was on the wall, they show nothing but contempt for their customers in making woke games, this isn't a step too far for them because they hate you and want you broke and forever renting from them.
This is why I keep shifting more and more of my purchases over there. I've also got a backlog of games that in theory I should repurchase over there, but I'm lazy and not made of money so I keep putting it off even during the summer sale.
No, they just have some convoluted ability to preserve installations as done through Steam. When Valve's servers go dark for the last time your games are still gone and I wish people would stop fooling themselves into believing otherwise just so they can continue worshipping Gaben. Valve is one of the least customer-hostile companies in the industry but that doesn't mean they're without flaw.
It's not entirely impossible that Steam somehow survives to the final instant of history that someone operates a gaming PC, but it IS extremely improbable. Nothing is ever too big to fail.
Ah, true. I didn't fully read or think that one through.
Also can't remember if it worked in offline mode out of the box or not. Probably not if they were concerned about it being a piratey workaround for Steam's basic level of DRM.
Not that I think DRM has much value at this point, or if it ever really did in the first place.
You let Valve ruin the video game marketplace already
I didn't let anything happen. Ive been buying physical PC games right up until they started putting codes in boxes. Now there's literally no other choice.
The cost of service-based offsite backup hosting is also kind of fucked, as I found out when looking into some of the logistics required to make the jump to Linux. Turns out all the services that offer "we'll offer storage to back up your shit for $X/month" quickly turn into "We'll offer Y TB of storage for $X/month" real quick once they realize you're tech savvy enough to wander outside of a Windows ecosystem. Ballpark numbers are about $7 per TB/month. Anyone who's serious about backing up their stuff is going to have that bill balloon to an exorbitant price tag pretty damn fast. I'm looking at close to $600 per year just to back up my main tower, which is nuts and a non-zero part of my decision to stop exploring the switch to Linux. Can I afford it? Yes. Is it a reasonable price tag for a consumer level service? Not really. I'll stick to my $100/year plan that keeps me locked into the OS I was already using thanks.
That's why I still can't bring myself to like Valve. I mean I can accept they do better than their peers today at trying to be good for it, but that's only because Newell started it all and sort of stayed consistent, but everyone else sprinted past him even closer to the proverbial pot of gold.
I literally just in the last six months used the legally obtained game assets from a CD I bought in 1995 to play a game. I didn't have to go re-buy it. I didn't have to go pirate it. I still had it because I bought it in a form that they can't confiscate. I could go sign into Steam today, find they delisted and cleared my entire library, and the only recourse I'd have is the "well sue us and our big pockets." Sure, so far they've been good and I think in general they are trustworthy, today. Tomorrow is a new day. For them to do that to my old physical games, someone has to come take them by force.
Thy are already partially doing that with unwanted updates and the same goes for woke gog too unless you download every version of every game a person has there.
Yup, that's why I'm building a physical media library. I only watch movies and shows online if they're worth the work of making a copy and backing it up every year.
Pretty much everywhere there is DRM, people can decide to take away what you purchased in the past. And it's completely legal which is fucking insane. It happens on Steam all the time. One of the reasons, I don't really buy stuff with DRM. EDIT: And game publishers do it all the time.
Are we still dancing around the issue that the kikery will continue until you start seeing the hooknose goblins getting disconnected from the oxygen server?
You'd think the Gaza thing and AIPAC would kind of move them toward the obvious conclusion on zionist occupation but they wouldn't be normies if they were able to think
Yes, it is also theft. But we live in a world where privileged groups of people can get away with crimes while non privileged people will have to pay for those same crimes. It's called a two tiered justice system. Almost every country on Earth has a two-tiered justice system
Morally ( and possibly legally depending on jurisdiction ) this is fraud. People paied for it with the reasonable expectation that they would retain access to the content they bought.
Let's see what people do about it.
I personally pirate / torrent nearly everything, and then go back to only give my money to people who don't spit on my race and ethnicity and our right to exist and preserve ourselves.
"previously purchased"
What weasels.
I just saw, and was wondering if someone would post it here. It was always going to happen. Anyone retarded enough to fully abandon physical media will have it happen to them too. You let Valve ruin the video game marketplace already and kill physical PC media (yes the people on this site too, some of you ride Gabe Newell's dick like a pornstar), and now retards are letting Sony and Microsoft do the same and happily gobbling it down. The writing was on the wall, they show nothing but contempt for their customers in making woke games, this isn't a step too far for them because they hate you and want you broke and forever renting from them.
GoG lets you fully download the game without needing internet access to play afterward.
Pirate bay too. Great service.
This is why I keep shifting more and more of my purchases over there. I've also got a backlog of games that in theory I should repurchase over there, but I'm lazy and not made of money so I keep putting it off even during the summer sale.
Technically Steam lets you do that too, it's just a bit more of a chore than it is with GoG.
Steam lets you fetch the fully-functional install file?
No, they just have some convoluted ability to preserve installations as done through Steam. When Valve's servers go dark for the last time your games are still gone and I wish people would stop fooling themselves into believing otherwise just so they can continue worshipping Gaben. Valve is one of the least customer-hostile companies in the industry but that doesn't mean they're without flaw.
THIS. Don't even need to finish the point.
It's not entirely impossible that Steam somehow survives to the final instant of history that someone operates a gaming PC, but it IS extremely improbable. Nothing is ever too big to fail.
Ah, true. I didn't fully read or think that one through.
Also can't remember if it worked in offline mode out of the box or not. Probably not if they were concerned about it being a piratey workaround for Steam's basic level of DRM.
Not that I think DRM has much value at this point, or if it ever really did in the first place.
I didn't let anything happen. Ive been buying physical PC games right up until they started putting codes in boxes. Now there's literally no other choice.
Wow, you didn’t send out a single letter bomb for uncle Ted?
Typical "principles first" cuck out here broadcasting his Ls...
Where are your outcomes, then?
I've pretty much abandoned physical media, barring occasional book purchases, but I also have .mp3s that are old enough to rent a car.
I have never paid for a .mp3.
Do you control the physical media on which your file are stored? If so, still counts.
This is why the storage prices going up 250% to 500% in a few months pisses me off so much. It's becomming unaffordable to keep your own content.
Especially if you keep several copies to ensure data integrity and recovery from storage failure ( like RAID 1 ) and you need 2+ times the space.
The cost of service-based offsite backup hosting is also kind of fucked, as I found out when looking into some of the logistics required to make the jump to Linux. Turns out all the services that offer "we'll offer storage to back up your shit for $X/month" quickly turn into "We'll offer Y TB of storage for $X/month" real quick once they realize you're tech savvy enough to wander outside of a Windows ecosystem. Ballpark numbers are about $7 per TB/month. Anyone who's serious about backing up their stuff is going to have that bill balloon to an exorbitant price tag pretty damn fast. I'm looking at close to $600 per year just to back up my main tower, which is nuts and a non-zero part of my decision to stop exploring the switch to Linux. Can I afford it? Yes. Is it a reasonable price tag for a consumer level service? Not really. I'll stick to my $100/year plan that keeps me locked into the OS I was already using thanks.
Strange that Blurays haven't been pulled back when there is a better business case for them now.
I feel like this is implied in my statement about never having paid for a .mp3.
That's why I still can't bring myself to like Valve. I mean I can accept they do better than their peers today at trying to be good for it, but that's only because Newell started it all and sort of stayed consistent, but everyone else sprinted past him even closer to the proverbial pot of gold.
I literally just in the last six months used the legally obtained game assets from a CD I bought in 1995 to play a game. I didn't have to go re-buy it. I didn't have to go pirate it. I still had it because I bought it in a form that they can't confiscate. I could go sign into Steam today, find they delisted and cleared my entire library, and the only recourse I'd have is the "well sue us and our big pockets." Sure, so far they've been good and I think in general they are trustworthy, today. Tomorrow is a new day. For them to do that to my old physical games, someone has to come take them by force.
Thy are already partially doing that with unwanted updates and the same goes for woke gog too unless you download every version of every game a person has there.
Yup, that's why I'm building a physical media library. I only watch movies and shows online if they're worth the work of making a copy and backing it up every year.
Pretty much everywhere there is DRM, people can decide to take away what you purchased in the past. And it's completely legal which is fucking insane. It happens on Steam all the time. One of the reasons, I don't really buy stuff with DRM. EDIT: And game publishers do it all the time.
Piracy FTW! No jewish shareholder can decide to take away any files from my computer if I never get them from their stupid servers.
Are we still dancing around the issue that the kikery will continue until you start seeing the hooknose goblins getting disconnected from the oxygen server?
Just working normies up to it, starting with "don't pay for something you don't get".
You'd think the Gaza thing and AIPAC would kind of move them toward the obvious conclusion on zionist occupation but they wouldn't be normies if they were able to think
If it is theft to download a movie you haven't paid for, as these goons claim, is it also not theft to take away a movie I have paid for?
Fortunately, I don't do the latter.
Yes, it is also theft. But we live in a world where privileged groups of people can get away with crimes while non privileged people will have to pay for those same crimes. It's called a two tiered justice system. Almost every country on Earth has a two-tiered justice system
It was never theft and it's stupid to give money to people who hate you, for any reason.
Copyright infringement is ethically and legally different from theft.
If I make an identical copy of a chair, or a videogame, nobody loses their chair of videogame.
I know, which is why I specifed that his is what they claim. The same people who say that piracy is theft will pull stunts like these.
And this is the reason why I’ll never buy digital movies.
It’s a weasel way of renting movies at a higher price.
That's fraud, and it should be prosecuted as such.
If purchasing isn't owning then piracy isn't theft.
Fuck it. Piracy is a moral obligation at this point.
Piracy was never theft, don't fall for the propaganda.
I mean...it kind of was at the start when it was done on the ocean with actual ships.
Morally ( and possibly legally depending on jurisdiction ) this is fraud. People paied for it with the reasonable expectation that they would retain access to the content they bought.
Let's see what people do about it.
I personally pirate / torrent nearly everything, and then go back to only give my money to people who don't spit on my race and ethnicity and our right to exist and preserve ourselves.