Yes, I'm sure it was the guy who wanted the big extravagant wedding that cost $30k and it was the financially sensible women who pleaded to have a simple cheap wedding. For the first time in history that has ever happened.
I would believe every word of this story if the sexes were swapped. I don't believe a single word of it as it's written though.
I have never in my entire life met a single male who wanted an expensive wedding. I have met a grand total one one woman who claimed she didn't want one.
There's a simple visual test: Look at how many married women have multi-thousand-dollar rings on to represent a wedding, and how many married men have the cheapest same-color-metal simple band imaginable. Then compare-contrast with the opposite: Men wearing 4-months-wages rings while the wife wears an iron band. Who spends wastefully on marriage accessories?
That stated, I have known a man who wanted an expensive wedding. Because they were Indian and it was a cultural thing to be wasteful on a giant wedding party to prove yourself better than other people somehow. It was a whole 5-day thing, re-marrying each day for different crowds with different scripts to best show off how they were superior to each grouping. Weird flex, but apparently that isn't uncommon for the richer people out that way, it's a cultural phenomenon.
While I don't doubt your example, I don't personally consider the experiences and cultures of non-Whites to be of any particular interest or relevancy. Browns have a lot of kooky customs, and I wouldn't use them as a point or a counterpoint for any argument made about Americans in the US, especially American women.
You probably want to go take a look at Etsy for wedding bands. There are many women that don't do real diamonds. I personally prefer the semi previous stones.
When you generalize, you're always wrong. No one taught you that as a child?
When you generalize, you're ALWAYS wrong. Sounds like a generalization to me. So that's wrong. Guess I'm always right. Tragic, really, being always right. But the would-be generalizer said that in general generalizations are generally wrong, and that included their own statement, so I guess generalizations are right.
Wouldn't want to make you into a, generally speaking, liar, right?
He's been striking channels, especially Kino Casino, that have talked about how he apparently is in to cuckoldry. Also a few months ago his videos went from tens of thousands of views to under ten thousand views.
That slob is a massive BOTTER and i cant believe Rumble had him under contract and paying him big money for so long. Can’t even sell $20 worth of his gay coffee. Fat grifter man. I sometimes wish I wasn’t such a deep thinker, with discernment that see’s the hidden esoteric in shit, so I could just have grifted to millions too.
Anytime I delve into the seedier parts of the internet I find myself inevitably daydreaming about if I were presented with two buttons, one that kills all cuck/NTR fetishists, and one that kills all futa-fetishists, which one I would pick and if I could get away with mashing both at the same time.
Same. Had a tiny spark long ago, which kept me slightly interested long after he got insufferably boring. Even at 2x speed the guy hardly says anything.
He's the worst of the culture war "read an article on YT" people by far. At least with the few of those people I still follow, they have relevant industry experience with insider knowledge that makes them be able to create a value-added product to the articles.
My son listens to people read things on tiktok because he dyslexic. The people that do that probably don't have this demographic as their target audience, but I hear the dumbest shit echoing in the house all day because of dyslexia.
That's exactly how I feel. I could watch a 30 minute video where he talks non-stop the entire time, yet I'll get absolutely nothing out of it besides BUY MY COFFEE. I really don't understand how he got popular to begin with.
She wanted the wedding. He knew she did. She suspected there were financial troubles. He admitted to it. That's all. Another woman putting a guy in debt for a worthless wedding. Then she leaves him. Guy lost $5k for nothing. What a joke.
I did miss the last part where they saved the $5k and aren't doing the wedding.
He's $30k in debt and he was contributing to their wedding fund. Meaning, his $17k was the wedding fund so without the wedding he wouldn't be in debt.
"He has a habit of going into debt to please people". That's her he's pleasing and she's trying to blame him despite the problem being her. He shouldn't need to feel like he needs to go into debt to please her but she brings that out of him by the way she acts.
In the comment right above this where you yourself posted a lawyer's comment from the Reddit thread, that lawyer says that (1) for all intents and purposes they're not common law married and (2) there's no reason for his creditors to come after her.
Either one of those things would mean she's not in debt because of him. And they're both true. So, what are you talking about that he put her in debt?
I post as much "baaaaarrrrely GG-related" culture war stuff here as the next person... but even I can't see why relationship tales from reddit content is being posted here.
Then you missed the post recently about the man the manbies were crying about losing ," everything " in his divorce. This is how I learned the shit I had to explain to everyone in that thread.
Best comment in the thread:
I am an attorney, licensed in Texas. I have experience with Family Law (divorces) and Tax Matters (the IRS) (8 years practicing, half w/ divorces and half on federal tax issues). Your situation may result in a whole-lotta-nothing, depending on the amicability of the two of you. I am not your attorney and the best advice you'll get in here is: go meet (alone) with a family law attorney and pick their brain about what your actual goals are. If you have an understanding of your goals you'll want to explicitly ask the attorney about their experience with common-law marriage divorces and what they recommend you do. If you are highly motivated to save money, use the State Bar of Texas attorney referral service to contact a local attorney who practices "family law." Direct Link
From what you have stated, you committed Tax Fraud. You and your fiancé filed a federal tax return as married ("married filing jointly" or MFJ) when you do(did) not consider yourselves married; you filed as 'married' in order to claim a greater tax credit when you did not actually believe you were married. That is fraud. The IRS is virtually never going to know this unless you or your partner tell them. It would be monumentally stupid for either of you to bring this to the attention of the IRS. Just file your next tax return correctly.
- The IRS does not go checking on marriage certificates 'just because'
- You should be filing as "Single" or potentially "Head of Household" based on your post
- You should consult with a CPA or somebody better than Jane Doe over at H&R block
- If the H&R REP actually recommended you file as 'married' when she knew you are not, complain to their manager
- Don't file federal tax returns as married when you don't consider yourselves as married. (don't commit tax fraud)
Common-Law-Marriage. The tax return could be used to argue that you are Common Law Married (CLM). CLM is not a status that just 'happens' because you took some actions. It's a position that 99.999% of the time is brought up by a jilted partner or a child of a dead person. It gets brought up when (a) there is a dispute about property, and (b) somebody claims a CLM existed, to (c) get a more desirable settlement (division of assets or to claim assets in a dead person's estate). If you two work together amicably, CLM shouldn't be an issue. If you and your fiancé (ex fiancé?) are able to divide your assets by agreement then you can just go your separate ways. Sell the home, split any proceeds 50/50, continue living life peacefully. If you never considered yourselves as married and don't try to claim that you were, the law will treat you as unmarried. That is what you should take from the internet, if you want more details and you really need to know about the exceptions and fringe cases --> talk to an attorney, who you paid money to, for advice.
Back to H&R block, there is no such thing as a "separation form" for Texas or for the IRS. That sounds like more bad advice. What she should have told you is to go and talk to a Texas family law attorney. The way to tell the IRS you are not married is to file a return that claims you are not married. In Texas, if nobody asserts you two were married then you don't need a 'separation anything.' H&R block may have a 'separation form' but that's not really helpful to your actual concerns.
- stop taking legal advice from people who are not qualified to give it
- go talk to an attorney in real life
"The lawyer said the fact that it was H&R block that filed for us makes no difference since we both signed the return."
- correct. you are not relieved of the tax fraud because it was somebody else's idea.
- In Texas, CLM will should only come up if your man tries to claim CLM.
" Im curious if we can annul even though its been 2 years?"
- probably not. probably don't need to. literally nobody that matters is claiming CLM. It's a potential issue, but it has not in fact been legally established in Texas.
" My fiance (husband?) seems set on making sure his debt doesnt become mine if we went the divorce route."
- if you consult with your own attorney he can advise you further.
- realistically, there is nothing in your post that should give creditors of your partner a reason to go after you. Don't give them one. They do not have access to your private tax returns unless you provide it.
" If we agree to leave with what we came in with, can that happen or does it have to be 50/50 everything?"
- yes, if you can be amicable about it.
You can make a contract between the two of you that says you are not married and then lay out terms for the renting of the home you are unable to sell. You should get separate attorneys to hash it out to best protect yourselves.
TLDRs:
- If you want to break up: Sign a Contract with former partner that says you were never married, divide assets amicably. File your tax returns correctly in the future. If you can't be amicable --> attorney.
- If you want to stay together, file your returns correctly and get more counselling. I like tmillie2262's comment. a Postnuptial will help clarify a lot of your concerns.
They sound more married than a lot of people I know. This may be the first instance I've read where people complaining about common law marriage are as wrong as can be.
There's a comment in that thread that says in TX , the couple has to actively present themselves as being married. And, filing taxes ( a legal document ) checks that box.
This thread make me think of a video last week of the divorced man who's divorce ended in the attorney's getting everything. Dramas like these are basically case studies with comments adding more info, and links sometimes to similar stories.
I wanted people to see an example of why drama does teach us when it's the right kind of drama.
Yes, I'm sure it was the guy who wanted the big extravagant wedding that cost $30k and it was the financially sensible women who pleaded to have a simple cheap wedding. For the first time in history that has ever happened.
I would believe every word of this story if the sexes were swapped. I don't believe a single word of it as it's written though.
Covid hyperinflated the wedding industry. The last wedding I attended precovid was 22K. That same exact event would be more than 200k today.
More drama.
There is so lunch wedding drama. I'm going to try to keep us focused.
I have never in my entire life met a single male who wanted an expensive wedding. I have met a grand total one one woman who claimed she didn't want one.
There's a simple visual test: Look at how many married women have multi-thousand-dollar rings on to represent a wedding, and how many married men have the cheapest same-color-metal simple band imaginable. Then compare-contrast with the opposite: Men wearing 4-months-wages rings while the wife wears an iron band. Who spends wastefully on marriage accessories?
That stated, I have known a man who wanted an expensive wedding. Because they were Indian and it was a cultural thing to be wasteful on a giant wedding party to prove yourself better than other people somehow. It was a whole 5-day thing, re-marrying each day for different crowds with different scripts to best show off how they were superior to each grouping. Weird flex, but apparently that isn't uncommon for the richer people out that way, it's a cultural phenomenon.
While I don't doubt your example, I don't personally consider the experiences and cultures of non-Whites to be of any particular interest or relevancy. Browns have a lot of kooky customs, and I wouldn't use them as a point or a counterpoint for any argument made about Americans in the US, especially American women.
You probably want to go take a look at Etsy for wedding bands. There are many women that don't do real diamonds. I personally prefer the semi previous stones.
When you generalize, you're always wrong. No one taught you that as a child?
When you generalize, you're ALWAYS wrong. Sounds like a generalization to me. So that's wrong. Guess I'm always right. Tragic, really, being always right. But the would-be generalizer said that in general generalizations are generally wrong, and that included their own statement, so I guess generalizations are right.
Wouldn't want to make you into a, generally speaking, liar, right?
It's so very clear your teachers failed you.
If this is the best drama you've seen in years you must not be following the fall of The Quartering 😆😆
What did he do? Stopped following him years ago.
He's been striking channels, especially Kino Casino, that have talked about how he apparently is in to cuckoldry. Also a few months ago his videos went from tens of thousands of views to under ten thousand views.
I thought part of being a cuck was enjoying the shame?
Didn't say he was a particularly good at it
Sometimes tyeanifactuted drama is so obvious, I'm just not interested.
Shocking. Totally unexpected. A real curveball.
That slob is a massive BOTTER and i cant believe Rumble had him under contract and paying him big money for so long. Can’t even sell $20 worth of his gay coffee. Fat grifter man. I sometimes wish I wasn’t such a deep thinker, with discernment that see’s the hidden esoteric in shit, so I could just have grifted to millions too.
A real botter? Impressive, I thought that was mostly Twitch and X.
It’s everywhere homie. Dead internet theory is more than true and moved even beyond that level now.everything is fake
It's modern marketing. You can find prices easily.
Anytime I delve into the seedier parts of the internet I find myself inevitably daydreaming about if I were presented with two buttons, one that kills all cuck/NTR fetishists, and one that kills all futa-fetishists, which one I would pick and if I could get away with mashing both at the same time.
Same. Had a tiny spark long ago, which kept me slightly interested long after he got insufferably boring. Even at 2x speed the guy hardly says anything.
He's the worst of the culture war "read an article on YT" people by far. At least with the few of those people I still follow, they have relevant industry experience with insider knowledge that makes them be able to create a value-added product to the articles.
My son listens to people read things on tiktok because he dyslexic. The people that do that probably don't have this demographic as their target audience, but I hear the dumbest shit echoing in the house all day because of dyslexia.
That's exactly how I feel. I could watch a 30 minute video where he talks non-stop the entire time, yet I'll get absolutely nothing out of it besides BUY MY COFFEE. I really don't understand how he got popular to begin with.
No! OOTL, what is that?
It's better than being given bad tax advice that means you committed fraud, and now need a divorce?
Sky Bull
She wanted the wedding. He knew she did. She suspected there were financial troubles. He admitted to it. That's all. Another woman putting a guy in debt for a worthless wedding. Then she leaves him. Guy lost $5k for nothing. What a joke.
Read it again. The man put the woman in debt to. Of you are I'm able to read, use text to speech.
She didn't though? Where did I miss that.
I did miss the last part where they saved the $5k and aren't doing the wedding.
He's $30k in debt and he was contributing to their wedding fund. Meaning, his $17k was the wedding fund so without the wedding he wouldn't be in debt.
"He has a habit of going into debt to please people". That's her he's pleasing and she's trying to blame him despite the problem being her. He shouldn't need to feel like he needs to go into debt to please her but she brings that out of him by the way she acts.
In the comment right above this where you yourself posted a lawyer's comment from the Reddit thread, that lawyer says that (1) for all intents and purposes they're not common law married and (2) there's no reason for his creditors to come after her.
Either one of those things would mean she's not in debt because of him. And they're both true. So, what are you talking about that he put her in debt?
They officially filed taxes, and they will need to get an actual divorce. The debate about this is the drama. I'm glad you're enjoying it.
You post shitty drama. I haven't commented there in years. I do still read between the bots.
Women can forgive anything except a many they need to support.
Rich Men: “I would happily marry a waitress over a CEO”
I post as much "baaaaarrrrely GG-related" culture war stuff here as the next person... but even I can't see why relationship tales from reddit content is being posted here.
Then you missed the post recently about the man the manbies were crying about losing ," everything " in his divorce. This is how I learned the shit I had to explain to everyone in that thread.
Chose to learn, or keep it scrolling.
https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/1sxdw89/i_26f_called_off_my_wedding_with_fiancé_27m_due/
Best comment in the thread: I am an attorney, licensed in Texas. I have experience with Family Law (divorces) and Tax Matters (the IRS) (8 years practicing, half w/ divorces and half on federal tax issues). Your situation may result in a whole-lotta-nothing, depending on the amicability of the two of you. I am not your attorney and the best advice you'll get in here is: go meet (alone) with a family law attorney and pick their brain about what your actual goals are. If you have an understanding of your goals you'll want to explicitly ask the attorney about their experience with common-law marriage divorces and what they recommend you do. If you are highly motivated to save money, use the State Bar of Texas attorney referral service to contact a local attorney who practices "family law." Direct Link
From what you have stated, you committed Tax Fraud. You and your fiancé filed a federal tax return as married ("married filing jointly" or MFJ) when you do(did) not consider yourselves married; you filed as 'married' in order to claim a greater tax credit when you did not actually believe you were married. That is fraud. The IRS is virtually never going to know this unless you or your partner tell them. It would be monumentally stupid for either of you to bring this to the attention of the IRS. Just file your next tax return correctly.
- The IRS does not go checking on marriage certificates 'just because'
- You should be filing as "Single" or potentially "Head of Household" based on your post
- You should consult with a CPA or somebody better than Jane Doe over at H&R block
- If the H&R REP actually recommended you file as 'married' when she knew you are not, complain to their manager
- Don't file federal tax returns as married when you don't consider yourselves as married. (don't commit tax fraud)
Common-Law-Marriage. The tax return could be used to argue that you are Common Law Married (CLM). CLM is not a status that just 'happens' because you took some actions. It's a position that 99.999% of the time is brought up by a jilted partner or a child of a dead person. It gets brought up when (a) there is a dispute about property, and (b) somebody claims a CLM existed, to (c) get a more desirable settlement (division of assets or to claim assets in a dead person's estate). If you two work together amicably, CLM shouldn't be an issue. If you and your fiancé (ex fiancé?) are able to divide your assets by agreement then you can just go your separate ways. Sell the home, split any proceeds 50/50, continue living life peacefully. If you never considered yourselves as married and don't try to claim that you were, the law will treat you as unmarried. That is what you should take from the internet, if you want more details and you really need to know about the exceptions and fringe cases --> talk to an attorney, who you paid money to, for advice.
Back to H&R block, there is no such thing as a "separation form" for Texas or for the IRS. That sounds like more bad advice. What she should have told you is to go and talk to a Texas family law attorney. The way to tell the IRS you are not married is to file a return that claims you are not married. In Texas, if nobody asserts you two were married then you don't need a 'separation anything.' H&R block may have a 'separation form' but that's not really helpful to your actual concerns.
- stop taking legal advice from people who are not qualified to give it
- go talk to an attorney in real life
"The lawyer said the fact that it was H&R block that filed for us makes no difference since we both signed the return."
- correct. you are not relieved of the tax fraud because it was somebody else's idea.
- In Texas, CLM will should only come up if your man tries to claim CLM.
" Im curious if we can annul even though its been 2 years?"
- probably not. probably don't need to. literally nobody that matters is claiming CLM. It's a potential issue, but it has not in fact been legally established in Texas.
" My fiance (husband?) seems set on making sure his debt doesnt become mine if we went the divorce route."
- if you consult with your own attorney he can advise you further.
- realistically, there is nothing in your post that should give creditors of your partner a reason to go after you. Don't give them one. They do not have access to your private tax returns unless you provide it.
" If we agree to leave with what we came in with, can that happen or does it have to be 50/50 everything?"
- yes, if you can be amicable about it.
You can make a contract between the two of you that says you are not married and then lay out terms for the renting of the home you are unable to sell. You should get separate attorneys to hash it out to best protect yourselves.
TLDRs:
- If you want to break up: Sign a Contract with former partner that says you were never married, divide assets amicably. File your tax returns correctly in the future. If you can't be amicable --> attorney.
- If you want to stay together, file your returns correctly and get more counselling. I like tmillie2262's comment. a Postnuptial will help clarify a lot of your concerns.
They sound more married than a lot of people I know. This may be the first instance I've read where people complaining about common law marriage are as wrong as can be.
There's a comment in that thread that says in TX , the couple has to actively present themselves as being married. And, filing taxes ( a legal document ) checks that box.
This thread make me think of a video last week of the divorced man who's divorce ended in the attorney's getting everything. Dramas like these are basically case studies with comments adding more info, and links sometimes to similar stories.
I wanted people to see an example of why drama does teach us when it's the right kind of drama.
A woman is excited about wedding drama? What are the odds?
This is divorce drama. And, taxes. Do try to keep up.
Same difference.
The drama that had learning value is the very best drama.