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Mods are aware of the Downvote issue, are doing nothing about it (communities.win)
posted 77 days ago by WeedleTLiar 77 days ago by WeedleTLiar +46 / -0
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– AgnosticTemplar 45 points 77 days ago +45 / -0

What a crazy coincidence that this issue just happened after Trump started a contentious war in the middle east on behalf of israel.

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– MargarineMongoose 30 points 77 days ago +30 / -0

After the last 12 years I don't believe in coincidences.

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– Vivs3rdSock 34 points 77 days ago +34 / -0

Cohencidences, however...

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– fauxgnaws 15 points 77 days ago +15 / -0

Not necessarily nefarious though.

Back in the day votes would get queued up and it'd take minutes or hours for your vote to register on refreshed page so the system is probably a huge mess of jeetcode.

Could just be their downvote database filled up once there was an issue where half the users were mass downvoting the other half, and they don't know how to fix it.

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– AgnosticTemplar 19 points 77 days ago +19 / -0

That might explain why new downvotes aren't showing, but not why all downvotes have disappeared, for comments that are years old.

To illustrate my point: https://communities.win/u/DomitiusOfMassilia?type=comment&sort=controversial

Those comments should all negative scores, yet now they all have a score of 1.

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– fauxgnaws 7 points 77 days ago +7 / -0

Actually it completely explains why all the downvotes disappeared.

Database is corrupted or otherwise won't open, system can't display any downvotes on any comment.

Neatly explains everything even the lack of communication; like they're going to come out and say "uh thing broken we tarded".

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– WeedleTLiar [S] 5 points 76 days ago +5 / -0

But why only the downvotes? It's possible but it seems like a huge coincidence that upvotes work while downvotes are broken considering they're almost certainly part of the same function amd tables.

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 76 days ago +1 / -0

It might seem that way, but with a system like this a primary concern is keeping all the page rendering data in memory so it's fast.

So what's used to render a page won't be stored in a massive all-vote database where they do a query counting all the down/up votes each time, but something that processes incoming up/down votes and applies them to a per-post cache or a highly compressed structure that fits in memory.

For example last I heard the entirety of Hacker News is in RAM on one server. Scored probably not designed by phd computer scientists so I bet it takes 100x more resources than HN.

When the voting was backlogged back in the day they probably did something like put vote handling on a separate server or added processing steps to make it fit in RAM. Maybe downvotes are on a separate server that crashed, or they had a bot-detection step on downvotes that crashed the whole pipeline, or it could be lots of things like that.

...or they could have just turned them off because of Iran war being unpopular. I'm just saying having a system failure is a plausible explanation for all downvotes disappearing.

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– covok48 34 points 77 days ago +34 / -0

Mods are doing this on purpose because the resident Israeli posters were getting double digit downvotes for weeks. Now they’re all near the top of every post now.

Then they come to place like here to boast about it.

I’m a bit envious of Reddit now since they have a functioning downvote button.

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– OnceMore 9 points 77 days ago +9 / -0

Yeah but all the votes on reddit are made up if it's even a remotely sizable sub. Like how in hobby subs literally any shitty post made by a nigger that includes the nigger in the frame gets voted to top of all time. I used to just think reddit was that cucked but now I'm confident the jew admins just add points to subversive posts.

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– WeedleTLiar [S] 2 points 76 days ago +2 / -0

I wonder if we'd even notice issues like botting and vote manipulation if the site was bigger? Or would they get lost in the noise?

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– OnceMore 3 points 76 days ago +3 / -0

Honestly it just depends on the rules and the makeup of the site. Even on reddit people would have big discussions about vote manipulation and admin/mod corruption until the site got really pozzed around 2016 ish. Now that it's a zombie site with every user either being a cuck, pervert, marxist, or whore being led around on a leash by jew mods and admins you don't see that discussion anymore.

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– WeedleTLiar [S] 29 points 77 days ago +29 / -0

Perun snuck into the thread, six days later, just to say "we're working on it, something, something, vote manipulation". That was 18 days ago.

Meanwhile, c/News is being spammed with obviously self-promoted posts, all with the same number of upvotes.

Posting here for (non-ziocucked) visibility.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 20 points 77 days ago +20 / -0

Meanwhile, c/News is being spammed with obviously self-promoted posts, all with the same number of upvotes.

You weren't kidding, it's a shitshow over there.

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– KekistanPM 16 points 77 days ago +16 / -0

"BuT mY pOsT's aReN't SpAm! They're wholesome objective stories from a totally reliable source. Why are you so anti-information???"

-- Handshakes

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– WeedleTLiar [S] 2 points 76 days ago +2 / -0

There were literally three posts advertising an Islamic school yesterday, all with exactly 9 upvotes.

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– covok48 16 points 77 days ago +16 / -0

He replied to me. Not convinced it’s for any other reason other than Israel’s Holy War.

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– deleted 9 points 77 days ago +9 / -0
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– Knight_Of_Saint_John 20 points 77 days ago +20 / -0

Half of this site is just a mossad operation

I'm genuinely surprised they allowed the KIA2 or Conpro to stay

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– current_horror 19 points 77 days ago +19 / -0

Containment subs.

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– theaustrianpainter 14 points 77 days ago +14 / -0

And data collection.

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– Niemo 1 point 77 days ago +1 / -0

More like irrelevant subs

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– Knight_Of_Saint_John 9 points 77 days ago +9 / -0

KIA2 is on trending

Its very relevant

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– TheOutlaw 9 points 77 days ago +9 / -0

I'm genuinely surprised they allowed the KIA2 or Conpro to stay

DOM shitting this place up as long as he did probably helped its longevity.

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– Knight_Of_Saint_John 8 points 77 days ago +8 / -0

I'm still shocked he gave up this board willingly

The black death mother curse must've really done a number on him huh?

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– WeedleTLiar [S] 3 points 76 days ago +3 / -0

Remember that this place was conceptualised at a time when all media was completely locked down by the Left. Rather than style this place as the exact same thing, but for the Right, they created the idea that it was a free speech platform, which meant allowing those subs as well. NNN was, during Covid, probably the biggest non-TD forum because twitter and youtube were shutting everyone down.

It speaks well of them that they've allowed us for so long, even though they probably hate our guts.

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– OmegaBird 6 points 76 days ago +6 / -0

I don't think it's the "mods" I'm pretty sure it's a site wide decision by the entire admins, meaning it goes way beyond any mods decision.

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– covok48 3 points 76 days ago +3 / -0

100% agree. But it’s funny as this site won’t exist once he’s out of office. This site has until Jan 21st 2029, tops.

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– WeedleTLiar [S] 2 points 76 days ago +2 / -0

Sorry, yes, I should have said admins.

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