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"Macho" countries are less happy. Even if true is happy the best metric for a country? (archive.ph)
posted 64 days ago by Mpetey123 64 days ago by Mpetey123 +20 / -0
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– TheOutlaw 28 points 64 days ago +28 / -0

Happiness is just a shitty metric in general because it's entirely self reported so there's no way to be objective. It also depends on who you ask, so there's a lot of ways to fuck with the stats to get the result you want. If a country's danger hairs are self reporting happiness then it's a shithole. Want an even worse metric? Check out how academics measure democracy. It's entirely based on whether or not the left is getting its way.

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– current_horror 18 points 64 days ago +18 / -0

One of my biggest personal redpills was reading Umberto Eco's 14 features of fascism and realizing that it's basically a screed against any form of nationalism. And that's the seminal text defining fascism according to "academics".

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– WeedleTLiar 8 points 64 days ago +8 / -0

Happiness is actually fundamentally flawed because it creates an inescapable spiral of failure.

Everyone is not happy some of the time, even those who are otherwise successful (good career, loving family, meaningful pursuits, etc). So, if happiness is a measure of success, then despite all those things, they're failing. Which makes them even less happy. Which means they're really failing. And so on.

How do you fix this problem? Definitely don't sacrifice anything to create a better future because sacrifice, in the now, doesn't make you happy. Don't excercise (because it's painful), don't spend time with your children (because they aren't perfect), don't try to fix any of your problems (because they're depressing). Nope, get high, have a wank, and play video games forever; because that makes you happy right now...

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– el_hoovy 2 points 64 days ago +2 / -0

just as some fent-leaner how happy he is.

"shieet, damn right i's happy, i gots alllll da fent i need"

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– WeedleTLiar 2 points 64 days ago +2 / -0

Usually they tell me how many times they've tried to kill themselves. But you're right in that they're trying to deal with their problems by being "happy" through drug abuse. If they faced their problems head on, usually by changing their own shitty behaviour, they might not be "happy" but they also wouldn't be trying to OD.

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– Hing 19 points 64 days ago +19 / -0

Finland is the happiest country because all the unhappy people kill themselves.

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– Vivs3rdSock 7 points 63 days ago +7 / -0

Canada coming for that crown.

NPC: I'm sad.

Canada: KYS?

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– BandageBandolier 16 points 64 days ago +16 / -0

The countries where this “prove-your-manhood” culture was most extreme, which included Iran, Nigeria and Ghana,

Yeah, sure, it's the subjective "macho" culture that's making people unhappy, not the fact they live in third world shitholes or dictatorships.

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– deleted 1 point 64 days ago +1 / -0
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– WeedleTLiar 5 points 64 days ago +5 / -0

Thanks for actually reading the article, Lord knows I wasn't going to

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– Kaarous 10 points 64 days ago +10 / -0

Surveys are among the worst kind of shitty junk science.

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– Lurker404 10 points 64 days ago +10 / -0

Social "sciences" in general are just junk. They start with the conclusion and then manufacture the "study" around it.

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– Vicious_snek6 3 points 64 days ago +3 / -0

It gets a trillion times worse in qualitative,

a phenomenological 'analytic' autoethnographic feminist and post-structuralist inspired exploration of Deleuze-Guattarian theory.

A survey is in the 2nd circle, this shit is deep in the 8th.

(not an entirely fake example, remember rachel gunn the australian breakdancer? That's basically her phd in breakdancing). "that's not even science" though? Sure. But I assure you it's in psych, and from there health more broadly.

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– Lurker404 8 points 64 days ago +8 / -0

less healthy and less trusting

You know, that's hard to believe considering feminism is turning previous high-trust functional societies into 3rd world shitholes.

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– theaustrianpainter 4 points 64 days ago +4 / -0

I think the metric is on point for the Scandinavians. They have a much better work life balance than we do, and feminism is less overt than it is here.

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– Tundinator 3 points 64 days ago +3 / -0

While I agree with people here that it's a shit study from the looks of it (also nice picture that helps to mislead) the underlying idea is sound.

If you're happy overall, it makes the unfortunate more bearable. If you're unhappy overall, even the smallest trifles are unbearable.

We should aim to be more happy, but not just by increasing the hedonistic sweets type of happy.

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 64 days ago +1 / -0

That's a drug addict mentality; I can handle all my problems so long as I can get a hit.

You deal with problems by becoming strong and resilient, not by being happy.

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– Tundinator 2 points 64 days ago +2 / -0

That's what I mean by this:

not just by increasing the hedonistic sweets type of happy

Being holistically happy is a combination of many things, including being strong and resilient generally.

But you won't always be strong in every category, and life is gonna test your resilience immensely. Having a loving family will make you happy, being spiritually sound will make you happy, having fulfillment in your job will make you happy. These are things that when you arent strong and you feel things start to strain, give you the support structure you need to recover.

So yes I agree with you, but you're missing several categories of happy.

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– CaptainTrouble 3 points 64 days ago +3 / -0

Happiness is a terrible measure. Many authors a century ago already tackled the problem with self reported happiness. Ignorance is bliss. Someone might report themselves a 10 but objectively they are a 5, it's just they don't know any better.

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– verylargebrain 2 points 64 days ago +2 / -0

If youre gonna be dumb you gotta be tough (I havent looked at the data)

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 2 points 61 days ago +2 / -0

Here's why the solution is mass immigration and pushing faggotry on kindergarteners!

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