Y'know it just occurs to me now after all these years... they claim they hate Hitler because of his "authoritarianism" but they're happy to use it by themselves all the same which appears hypocritical.
But what if it's really because it wasn't "authoritarianism" but his opposition to homosexuality?
We're taught to hate Hitler in schools so some of that comes automatically if you stay within the educational indoctrination.
Marry Poppins, Angel and the Bad Man (most john wayne movies in fact), A Christmas Charol (various versions), Robin Hood (Errol Flynn version), arguably every Christopher Reeves Superman, off the top of my head.
Christ metaphors are nice, but not exactly the same thing as loving Christ imo. I can count the movies that portrayed Christianity in a good light on one hand.
Mary Poppins (the movie) was absolute modernist slop. The only one with any sense in the movie is the father and he's ridiculous endlessly for being responsible.
I know about this movie more than you do. I've watched it dozens of times over my life and I've just dissected it myself. I don't need some clickbait slop to tell me how to think about it.
someone posted this video in a different thread and I made a lengthy retort, go see that if you want more.
It split away from judaism (other way around, really) and absorbed Mithraism as well as the various mystery cults, most notably Sol Invictus. By the time it was in practice as "Christianity" it was almost purely European, and had more success in displacing jews than any paganism with the exception of Hadrian, maybe Titus. I highly suggest you read the polemics of St. John Chrysostom if you're not yet convinced how redpilled original Christianity, NOT Churchianity, can be.
By the time it was in practice as "Christianity" it was almost purely European, and had more success in displacing jews than any paganism with the exception of Hadrian, maybe Titus.
Then you can show me the time when Christianity and the Church treated Judaism as they treated all pagan religions and every heretic. Despite the Church having absolute power for well over a millennia it never actually wiped them out or displaced them from Europe.
Yes, local rulers have regularly thrown them out for their abhorrent behavior. Something that continues to this day and happens all over the world. But it doesn't happen because of Christianity. Hell even Iran tolerates Jews within its borders.
And by the way you forgot Hitler and he didn't do it because of Christianity.
how redpilled original Christianity, NOT Churchianity, can be.
You mean how Christianity went on a destruction rampage around the Classical World? Early Christians literally did what Muslims do to this day.
And what is 'Churchianity' supposed to be? There always has been a Church. There can't be a pope without the Church.
The problem with Christianity is that it puts itself above race and nation. God is the number one priority. Not your children, not your family, not your nation, not your race. And that's precisely the reason why I reject it. Like I reject all Abrahamic religions. Organized monotheism is retarded and attracts corruption like shit attracts flies. That's why the Church always has been a cesspool of corruption, greed, degeneracy and evil.
The only good has ever come from individuals never from the Church as an institution.
Shoot yourself, you fucking kike. No one will ever believe anything you say. You’re too retarded to live.
Localized expulsions and pogroms by local rulers are not expulsions from Europe by the Church or Christianity.
You know what it looks like when the Church actually wanted to wipe a group of people out? Ask a Cathar. Oh wait... you can't because they were mercilessly wiped out unlike Jews who are supposedly the arch enemy of Christianity.
lol, more lies.
Yes. Who can forget Hitler screaming 'tHeY kIlLeD jEsUs!' when he ordered the lolocaust.
Then you can show me the time when Christianity and the Church treated Judaism as they treated all pagan religions and every heretic.
The polemics of St. John Chrysostom as I said above, along with Justin Martyr and Ambrose of Milan. Pope Eugene IV essentially recommended cutting them off and letting them starve in the absence of a host to parasitize (almost verbatim what Martin Luther would say a millennium later). Christian Crusaders were notorious for slaughtering entire settlements of jews under the slogan "kill them all - God knows who are His!"
Despite the Church having absolute power for well over a millennia it never actually wiped them out or displaced them from Europe.
Got the population down to 700ish in the entire continent. Close to finishing the job Hadrian started, no?
We've had this debate before. There was no real cohesive "Europe" before European Christianity, what we would now call Christian Identity. The various tribes weren't "White" they were Germanic, Slavic, Celtic etc. with their own traditions of following Odin/Wotan/Woden, Perun, Lugh, or some other pantheon of ancestral deities. Usually with a primogenitor now identified with "God the Father" while the others are considered saints, depending on tradition.
I just want to say, you have noticed a lot of the "Pagan Evropa" accounts are based out of jeet countries, right?
The polemics of St. John Chrysostom as I said above, along with Justin Martyr and Ambrose of Milan. Pope Eugene IV essentially recommended cutting them off and letting them starve in the absence of a host to parasitize (almost verbatim what Martin Luther would say a millennium later). Christian Crusaders were notorious for slaughtering entire settlements of jews under the slogan "kill them all - God knows who are His!"
I don't care for polemics. I care for actions. It doesn't matter what you say if you don't actually do it.
Christian crusaders were also notorious for slaughtering Christians as well. The sacking of Constantinople literally caused the fall of the Byzantine Empire.
Got the population down to 700ish in the entire continent.
That is about as believable as six million being gassed and burned.
The various tribes weren't "White" they were Germanic, Slavic, Celtic etc. with their own traditions of following Odin/Wotan/Woden, Perun, Lugh, or some other pantheon of ancestral deities.
They still are. Europe is not cohesive. Europeans have never stopped waging war against each other. Even today Europe is anything but united. Especially the divide between Slavs and Western Europeans is still immense.
At no point in time has Christianity ever changed anything about that. Actually you could argue it made it worse with the persecution of pagans, heretics and all the inter-religious wars between Catholics and Protestants. This stupid religious divide was still a big thing even just 50 years ago.
The cultural differences between European nations are vast to this day. Even within a nation there are great regional differences. If you go back a century those differences are many times greater. And those differences are very important and should be valued highly. Because they are what makes Europe great.
Thinking of yourself as White is mostly an American thing.
I don't have a link on hand unfortunately but they are public domain (a good translation is key). You might have to go outside the usual zogged channels for one.
I wouldn't go so far as to call this jew trickery. Christianity is indeed a Middle Eastern Abrahamic religion. And many European nationalists hate it. Scandinavians would be a good example.
You mean exactly like you did? Literally exactly what you did, projected onto me? Eat shit and die, yid.
obviously not meant
It was, though. Because you’re so genuinely retarded that you cannot comprehend time preference. You have nigger levels of thought abstraction. You have mounting to defend yourself.
Really? The Numidians were White now? Jews too? All of the Egyptians as well? Come on. Pretending there were no other races besides Europeans in North Africa/Middle East is ridiculous.
The brownoid state of the people currently living in those regions is a warning against race mixing. Sure, (((modern artists))) like drawing them as niggers, but coins and busts from antiquity don't show nigger noses on their kings.
Don't underestimate what a tremendous barrier the Sahara is. Aside from Egypt having Nubia as a neighbor, the only contact with sub-saharans was from a few Phonecian explorers sailing down the West coast and one Roman expedition through the desert.
I’m not sure what needs expounded upon. The entirety of the Levant was white 2000 years ago. North Africa was also European. Jesus is written of in contemporary terms as having blonde hair. The only reason the Middle East, North Africa, and Anatolia are brown today is the Islamic rape conquest.
Out of curiosity, do you have good sources for this? A member of my family refuses to believe it and I want to try and red pill them. Probably a waste of time but figured worth a shot.
Even as late as in places the Byzantine Empire still reigned, its people were white. Muslims made a point of coveting them for this reason.
“The Byzantines as a people were considered as fine examples of physical beauty, and youthful slaves and slave girls of Byzantine origin were highly valued. The Arab’s appreciation of the Byzantine female has a long history, indeed. For the Islamic period, the earliest literary evidence we have is a hadith (saying of the prophet). Muhammad is said to have addressed a newly converted Arab, ‘Would you like the girls of Banu al-Asfar?’ Not only were Byzantine slave girls sought after for the caliphal and other palaces (where some became mothers of future caliphs), but they also became the epitome of physical beauty, home economy, and refined accomplishments. The typical Byzantine maiden who captures the imagination of literateurs and poets had blonde hair, blue or green eyes, a pure and healthy visage, lovely breasts, a delicate waist, and a body that is like camphor or a flood of dazzling light.” ~ Ahmad M. H. Shboul, Islamic researcher; Arab-Byzantine Relations in Early Islamic Times; 2004
Speaking on Jesus specifically, both the Shroud of Turin and a venerated fragment of the Crown of Thorns have had their dried blood studied in a lab. Both samples are AB-. First, the odds of them being different are so high that it’s extremely unlikely they came from different sources. So let’s assume they’re original and not both part of a later-century recreation or hoax. If they’re original, the bearer of both has a 10x higher chance of being white than being nonwhite.
They hate Europe. The cross has been a symbol used by Europeans even before Christianity became a thing. But since Christianity took over Europe it became a symbol representing Europe even more so.
They don't give a shit about brown Christians. They only want to exterminate Europeans.
You're actually right on this (specific) point - African Christians in particular (the Catholic and Orthodox ones anyway, not the blood magic cults whose leaders claim to be Jesus Christ) are strongly nationalistic, oppose race mixing - even with other African tribes - support traditional views on women and can't stand faggots.
They hate Hitler because he was a fierce German nationalist. Nationalism is the number one enemy of Judaism and even the Church. Because nationalism chooses blood over religion.
The reformation diminished the Churches influence and power immensely. European rulers telling the Church to go fuck itself did lead to the modern European nations, yes. But the foundations of those nations is older than Christianity itself. The foundation are the European tribes. Their blood not their religion.
And ya wonder why they conflate the two...
Y'know it just occurs to me now after all these years... they claim they hate Hitler because of his "authoritarianism" but they're happy to use it by themselves all the same which appears hypocritical.
But what if it's really because it wasn't "authoritarianism" but his opposition to homosexuality?
We're taught to hate Hitler in schools so some of that comes automatically if you stay within the educational indoctrination.
https://www.pidjin.net/2011/04/23/the-pidjin-easter-special-2011/
It all makes sense.
Germans, Romans, Russians, white southerners... always the villains in hollywood movies for no reason at all
Hollywood loved christ for a long time. Every movie had to have a jesusism before the 90s
Real Jesus not hippy fake version perverted Jesus.
People didn't get misleading ideas about Jesus because media portrayed him correctly, his message has been subverted long before 1990.
What movies are you talking about?
Marry Poppins, Angel and the Bad Man (most john wayne movies in fact), A Christmas Charol (various versions), Robin Hood (Errol Flynn version), arguably every Christopher Reeves Superman, off the top of my head.
Christ metaphors are nice, but not exactly the same thing as loving Christ imo. I can count the movies that portrayed Christianity in a good light on one hand.
Mary Poppins (the movie) was absolute modernist slop. The only one with any sense in the movie is the father and he's ridiculous endlessly for being responsible.
https://youtu.be/9qHild2_vOI?si=DDG5TBqzLbQX7luX
I know about this movie more than you do. I've watched it dozens of times over my life and I've just dissected it myself. I don't need some clickbait slop to tell me how to think about it.
someone posted this video in a different thread and I made a lengthy retort, go see that if you want more.
They don't hate Jesus. They shit on Jesus to shit on YOU.
They do actually hate Hitler which is why they don't shit on him but have been fanatically vilifying him for almost a century.
It's a racial war. Not a religious one.
Race and religion are inevitably intertwined. Check out https://christogenea.org for a nice primer on Christian Identity.
The Japanese seem to be an exception what with Shinto animism but then they're heavily admixed with Jomon Ainu (proto-Europeans)
Christianity is a foreign religion imported to Europe. It neither originated in Europe nor was it created by Europeans.
It split away from judaism (other way around, really) and absorbed Mithraism as well as the various mystery cults, most notably Sol Invictus. By the time it was in practice as "Christianity" it was almost purely European, and had more success in displacing jews than any paganism with the exception of Hadrian, maybe Titus. I highly suggest you read the polemics of St. John Chrysostom if you're not yet convinced how redpilled original Christianity, NOT Churchianity, can be.
Judaism was created roughly 200 years after Christ's death while in Babylonian captivity, hence the name Babylonian Talmud.
In essence all of judaism is a perverted reverse-engineering of Christianity, minus the divinity of Christ Himself of course.
A synagogue of satan if you will.
Exactly.
Then you can show me the time when Christianity and the Church treated Judaism as they treated all pagan religions and every heretic. Despite the Church having absolute power for well over a millennia it never actually wiped them out or displaced them from Europe.
Yes, local rulers have regularly thrown them out for their abhorrent behavior. Something that continues to this day and happens all over the world. But it doesn't happen because of Christianity. Hell even Iran tolerates Jews within its borders.
And by the way you forgot Hitler and he didn't do it because of Christianity.
You mean how Christianity went on a destruction rampage around the Classical World? Early Christians literally did what Muslims do to this day.
And what is 'Churchianity' supposed to be? There always has been a Church. There can't be a pope without the Church.
The problem with Christianity is that it puts itself above race and nation. God is the number one priority. Not your children, not your family, not your nation, not your race. And that's precisely the reason why I reject it. Like I reject all Abrahamic religions. Organized monotheism is retarded and attracts corruption like shit attracts flies. That's why the Church always has been a cesspool of corruption, greed, degeneracy and evil.
The only good has ever come from individuals never from the Church as an institution.
Exactly the opposite, as Melania said.
Yes. We can.
Shoot yourself, you fucking kike. No one will ever believe anything you say. You’re too retarded to live.
It does, yeah.
So… not Christianity, and not relevant to what we’re discussing.
lol, more lies.
Localized expulsions and pogroms by local rulers are not expulsions from Europe by the Church or Christianity.
You know what it looks like when the Church actually wanted to wipe a group of people out? Ask a Cathar. Oh wait... you can't because they were mercilessly wiped out unlike Jews who are supposedly the arch enemy of Christianity.
Yes. Who can forget Hitler screaming 'tHeY kIlLeD jEsUs!' when he ordered the lolocaust.
You’re done. It’s over.
You, apparently, given that he explicitly said it in Mein Kampf.
Please don't stoop to pilpul.
The polemics of St. John Chrysostom as I said above, along with Justin Martyr and Ambrose of Milan. Pope Eugene IV essentially recommended cutting them off and letting them starve in the absence of a host to parasitize (almost verbatim what Martin Luther would say a millennium later). Christian Crusaders were notorious for slaughtering entire settlements of jews under the slogan "kill them all - God knows who are His!"
Got the population down to 700ish in the entire continent. Close to finishing the job Hadrian started, no?
We've had this debate before. There was no real cohesive "Europe" before European Christianity, what we would now call Christian Identity. The various tribes weren't "White" they were Germanic, Slavic, Celtic etc. with their own traditions of following Odin/Wotan/Woden, Perun, Lugh, or some other pantheon of ancestral deities. Usually with a primogenitor now identified with "God the Father" while the others are considered saints, depending on tradition.
I just want to say, you have noticed a lot of the "Pagan Evropa" accounts are based out of jeet countries, right?
It's not. Judaism is older than Christianity.
I don't care for polemics. I care for actions. It doesn't matter what you say if you don't actually do it.
Christian crusaders were also notorious for slaughtering Christians as well. The sacking of Constantinople literally caused the fall of the Byzantine Empire.
That is about as believable as six million being gassed and burned.
They still are. Europe is not cohesive. Europeans have never stopped waging war against each other. Even today Europe is anything but united. Especially the divide between Slavs and Western Europeans is still immense.
At no point in time has Christianity ever changed anything about that. Actually you could argue it made it worse with the persecution of pagans, heretics and all the inter-religious wars between Catholics and Protestants. This stupid religious divide was still a big thing even just 50 years ago.
The cultural differences between European nations are vast to this day. Even within a nation there are great regional differences. If you go back a century those differences are many times greater. And those differences are very important and should be valued highly. Because they are what makes Europe great.
Thinking of yourself as White is mostly an American thing.
Could you share a link for the writings?
I don't have a link on hand unfortunately but they are public domain (a good translation is key). You might have to go outside the usual zogged channels for one.
I haven't read christian texts besides watching lotr so this is uncharted territory for me.
tips yarmulke
Keep repeating things only jews heave ever said and you’ll keep being laughed at.
So Middle Easterners are Europeans now? Jews are White? Alrighty then.
That’s cute. Keep up the linguistic games like the good little jew you are. Do you think they’re going to work?
I wouldn't go so far as to call this jew trickery. Christianity is indeed a Middle Eastern Abrahamic religion. And many European nationalists hate it. Scandinavians would be a good example.
Indeed what? You’ve said nothing.
Doesn’t exist as a concept. You’re just repeating jewish propaganda.
Nuts to your retardation.
I...dont think they actually do much Asatru in Scandinavia, outside of larping and touristy shit.
Don't ignore the context like a faggot. The now was obviously not meant as in today you absolute mongoloid.
You mean exactly like you did? Literally exactly what you did, projected onto me? Eat shit and die, yid.
It was, though. Because you’re so genuinely retarded that you cannot comprehend time preference. You have nigger levels of thought abstraction. You have mounting to defend yourself.
Before the 8th century AD, the entire Mediterranean was White.
Really? The Numidians were White now? Jews too? All of the Egyptians as well? Come on. Pretending there were no other races besides Europeans in North Africa/Middle East is ridiculous.
The brownoid state of the people currently living in those regions is a warning against race mixing. Sure, (((modern artists))) like drawing them as niggers, but coins and busts from antiquity don't show nigger noses on their kings.
https://snible.org/coins/hn/numidia.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_I_of_Numidia
Don't underestimate what a tremendous barrier the Sahara is. Aside from Egypt having Nubia as a neighbor, the only contact with sub-saharans was from a few Phonecian explorers sailing down the West coast and one Roman expedition through the desert.
Numidia is far from the med. Its way up the Nile in Africa proper.
Yeah can you expand on this one for me?
I’m not sure what needs expounded upon. The entirety of the Levant was white 2000 years ago. North Africa was also European. Jesus is written of in contemporary terms as having blonde hair. The only reason the Middle East, North Africa, and Anatolia are brown today is the Islamic rape conquest.
Out of curiosity, do you have good sources for this? A member of my family refuses to believe it and I want to try and red pill them. Probably a waste of time but figured worth a shot.
Sure.
Ancient Greece and Rome regularly depicted blue-eyed blondes in statue and story.
Even as late as in places the Byzantine Empire still reigned, its people were white. Muslims made a point of coveting them for this reason.
Speaking on Jesus specifically, both the Shroud of Turin and a venerated fragment of the Crown of Thorns have had their dried blood studied in a lab. Both samples are AB-. First, the odds of them being different are so high that it’s extremely unlikely they came from different sources. So let’s assume they’re original and not both part of a later-century recreation or hoax. If they’re original, the bearer of both has a 10x higher chance of being white than being nonwhite.
Yeah, they do.
They don't even consider Jesus a prophet. They don't consider them 'God' and Judaism is all about deceiving their God and non-Jews anyway.
And Democrats don’t consider Trump “their president.” What’s your point?
Hence why they’re damned to hell for all eternity.
That's a really terrible comparison. Unless you consider Trump to be a religious deity/figure. But then I would be very worried.
I guess that's why they create hell on Earth for everyone and your God doesn't give a fuck about doing anything about it.
Cool, thanks for admitting it’s the same.
Yes, it’s called envy.
It’s cute that you think anyone is going to be on your side when this is the extent of your theological knowledge.
Sure they do.
Jews hate Jesus so much that they invented their own version of the plus-sign, just to avoid drawing something resembling a cross.
And you haven't seen the peak of talmudic hatred until you see how they feel about messianic jews...
They hate Europe. The cross has been a symbol used by Europeans even before Christianity became a thing. But since Christianity took over Europe it became a symbol representing Europe even more so.
They don't give a shit about brown Christians. They only want to exterminate Europeans.
You're actually right on this (specific) point - African Christians in particular (the Catholic and Orthodox ones anyway, not the blood magic cults whose leaders claim to be Jesus Christ) are strongly nationalistic, oppose race mixing - even with other African tribes - support traditional views on women and can't stand faggots.
They hate Jesus because he said they weren't special anymore than any gentile. They hate Hitler because he was a gentile that rallied his people.
They hate Hitler because he was a fierce German nationalist. Nationalism is the number one enemy of Judaism and even the Church. Because nationalism chooses blood over religion.
The modern European Nations wouldn't exist without Christianity.
"Modern" meaning since 1500s or so.
You'll have to explain that because I can't make sense of it. Especially the cutoff point. Why the 1500s?
Protestant Reformation for one
The reformation diminished the Churches influence and power immensely. European rulers telling the Church to go fuck itself did lead to the modern European nations, yes. But the foundations of those nations is older than Christianity itself. The foundation are the European tribes. Their blood not their religion.
Ironically most modern racial supremacy stems from the Jewish view of non Jews
Charlie Chaplin?