It split away from judaism (other way around, really) and absorbed Mithraism as well as the various mystery cults, most notably Sol Invictus. By the time it was in practice as "Christianity" it was almost purely European, and had more success in displacing jews than any paganism with the exception of Hadrian, maybe Titus. I highly suggest you read the polemics of St. John Chrysostom if you're not yet convinced how redpilled original Christianity, NOT Churchianity, can be.
By the time it was in practice as "Christianity" it was almost purely European, and had more success in displacing jews than any paganism with the exception of Hadrian, maybe Titus.
Then you can show me the time when Christianity and the Church treated Judaism as they treated all pagan religions and every heretic. Despite the Church having absolute power for well over a millennia it never actually wiped them out or displaced them from Europe.
Yes, local rulers have regularly thrown them out for their abhorrent behavior. Something that continues to this day and happens all over the world. But it doesn't happen because of Christianity. Hell even Iran tolerates Jews within its borders.
And by the way you forgot Hitler and he didn't do it because of Christianity.
how redpilled original Christianity, NOT Churchianity, can be.
You mean how Christianity went on a destruction rampage around the Classical World? Early Christians literally did what Muslims do to this day.
And what is 'Churchianity' supposed to be? There always has been a Church. There can't be a pope without the Church.
The problem with Christianity is that it puts itself above race and nation. God is the number one priority. Not your children, not your family, not your nation, not your race. And that's precisely the reason why I reject it. Like I reject all Abrahamic religions. Organized monotheism is retarded and attracts corruption like shit attracts flies. That's why the Church always has been a cesspool of corruption, greed, degeneracy and evil.
The only good has ever come from individuals never from the Church as an institution.
Shoot yourself, you fucking kike. No one will ever believe anything you say. You’re too retarded to live.
Localized expulsions and pogroms by local rulers are not expulsions from Europe by the Church or Christianity.
You know what it looks like when the Church actually wanted to wipe a group of people out? Ask a Cathar. Oh wait... you can't because they were mercilessly wiped out unlike Jews who are supposedly the arch enemy of Christianity.
lol, more lies.
Yes. Who can forget Hitler screaming 'tHeY kIlLeD jEsUs!' when he ordered the lolocaust.
Then you can show me the time when Christianity and the Church treated Judaism as they treated all pagan religions and every heretic.
The polemics of St. John Chrysostom as I said above, along with Justin Martyr and Ambrose of Milan. Pope Eugene IV essentially recommended cutting them off and letting them starve in the absence of a host to parasitize (almost verbatim what Martin Luther would say a millennium later). Christian Crusaders were notorious for slaughtering entire settlements of jews under the slogan "kill them all - God knows who are His!"
Despite the Church having absolute power for well over a millennia it never actually wiped them out or displaced them from Europe.
Got the population down to 700ish in the entire continent. Close to finishing the job Hadrian started, no?
We've had this debate before. There was no real cohesive "Europe" before European Christianity, what we would now call Christian Identity. The various tribes weren't "White" they were Germanic, Slavic, Celtic etc. with their own traditions of following Odin/Wotan/Woden, Perun, Lugh, or some other pantheon of ancestral deities. Usually with a primogenitor now identified with "God the Father" while the others are considered saints, depending on tradition.
I just want to say, you have noticed a lot of the "Pagan Evropa" accounts are based out of jeet countries, right?
The polemics of St. John Chrysostom as I said above, along with Justin Martyr and Ambrose of Milan. Pope Eugene IV essentially recommended cutting them off and letting them starve in the absence of a host to parasitize (almost verbatim what Martin Luther would say a millennium later). Christian Crusaders were notorious for slaughtering entire settlements of jews under the slogan "kill them all - God knows who are His!"
I don't care for polemics. I care for actions. It doesn't matter what you say if you don't actually do it.
Christian crusaders were also notorious for slaughtering Christians as well. The sacking of Constantinople literally caused the fall of the Byzantine Empire.
Got the population down to 700ish in the entire continent.
That is about as believable as six million being gassed and burned.
The various tribes weren't "White" they were Germanic, Slavic, Celtic etc. with their own traditions of following Odin/Wotan/Woden, Perun, Lugh, or some other pantheon of ancestral deities.
They still are. Europe is not cohesive. Europeans have never stopped waging war against each other. Even today Europe is anything but united. Especially the divide between Slavs and Western Europeans is still immense.
At no point in time has Christianity ever changed anything about that. Actually you could argue it made it worse with the persecution of pagans, heretics and all the inter-religious wars between Catholics and Protestants. This stupid religious divide was still a big thing even just 50 years ago.
The cultural differences between European nations are vast to this day. Even within a nation there are great regional differences. If you go back a century those differences are many times greater. And those differences are very important and should be valued highly. Because they are what makes Europe great.
Thinking of yourself as White is mostly an American thing.
I don't have a link on hand unfortunately but they are public domain (a good translation is key). You might have to go outside the usual zogged channels for one.
I wouldn't go so far as to call this jew trickery. Christianity is indeed a Middle Eastern Abrahamic religion. And many European nationalists hate it. Scandinavians would be a good example.
Really? The Numidians were White now? Jews too? All of the Egyptians as well? Come on. Pretending there were no other races besides Europeans in North Africa/Middle East is ridiculous.
I’m not sure what needs expounded upon. The entirety of the Levant was white 2000 years ago. North Africa was also European. Jesus is written of in contemporary terms as having blonde hair. The only reason the Middle East, North Africa, and Anatolia are brown today is the Islamic rape conquest.
Out of curiosity, do you have good sources for this? A member of my family refuses to believe it and I want to try and red pill them. Probably a waste of time but figured worth a shot.
Christianity is a foreign religion imported to Europe. It neither originated in Europe nor was it created by Europeans.
It split away from judaism (other way around, really) and absorbed Mithraism as well as the various mystery cults, most notably Sol Invictus. By the time it was in practice as "Christianity" it was almost purely European, and had more success in displacing jews than any paganism with the exception of Hadrian, maybe Titus. I highly suggest you read the polemics of St. John Chrysostom if you're not yet convinced how redpilled original Christianity, NOT Churchianity, can be.
Judaism was created roughly 200 years after Christ's death while in Babylonian captivity, hence the name Babylonian Talmud.
In essence all of judaism is a perverted reverse-engineering of Christianity, minus the divinity of Christ Himself of course.
A synagogue of satan if you will.
Exactly.
Then you can show me the time when Christianity and the Church treated Judaism as they treated all pagan religions and every heretic. Despite the Church having absolute power for well over a millennia it never actually wiped them out or displaced them from Europe.
Yes, local rulers have regularly thrown them out for their abhorrent behavior. Something that continues to this day and happens all over the world. But it doesn't happen because of Christianity. Hell even Iran tolerates Jews within its borders.
And by the way you forgot Hitler and he didn't do it because of Christianity.
You mean how Christianity went on a destruction rampage around the Classical World? Early Christians literally did what Muslims do to this day.
And what is 'Churchianity' supposed to be? There always has been a Church. There can't be a pope without the Church.
The problem with Christianity is that it puts itself above race and nation. God is the number one priority. Not your children, not your family, not your nation, not your race. And that's precisely the reason why I reject it. Like I reject all Abrahamic religions. Organized monotheism is retarded and attracts corruption like shit attracts flies. That's why the Church always has been a cesspool of corruption, greed, degeneracy and evil.
The only good has ever come from individuals never from the Church as an institution.
Exactly the opposite, as Melania said.
Yes. We can.
Shoot yourself, you fucking kike. No one will ever believe anything you say. You’re too retarded to live.
It does, yeah.
So… not Christianity, and not relevant to what we’re discussing.
lol, more lies.
Localized expulsions and pogroms by local rulers are not expulsions from Europe by the Church or Christianity.
You know what it looks like when the Church actually wanted to wipe a group of people out? Ask a Cathar. Oh wait... you can't because they were mercilessly wiped out unlike Jews who are supposedly the arch enemy of Christianity.
Yes. Who can forget Hitler screaming 'tHeY kIlLeD jEsUs!' when he ordered the lolocaust.
Please don't stoop to pilpul.
The polemics of St. John Chrysostom as I said above, along with Justin Martyr and Ambrose of Milan. Pope Eugene IV essentially recommended cutting them off and letting them starve in the absence of a host to parasitize (almost verbatim what Martin Luther would say a millennium later). Christian Crusaders were notorious for slaughtering entire settlements of jews under the slogan "kill them all - God knows who are His!"
Got the population down to 700ish in the entire continent. Close to finishing the job Hadrian started, no?
We've had this debate before. There was no real cohesive "Europe" before European Christianity, what we would now call Christian Identity. The various tribes weren't "White" they were Germanic, Slavic, Celtic etc. with their own traditions of following Odin/Wotan/Woden, Perun, Lugh, or some other pantheon of ancestral deities. Usually with a primogenitor now identified with "God the Father" while the others are considered saints, depending on tradition.
I just want to say, you have noticed a lot of the "Pagan Evropa" accounts are based out of jeet countries, right?
It's not. Judaism is older than Christianity.
I don't care for polemics. I care for actions. It doesn't matter what you say if you don't actually do it.
Christian crusaders were also notorious for slaughtering Christians as well. The sacking of Constantinople literally caused the fall of the Byzantine Empire.
That is about as believable as six million being gassed and burned.
They still are. Europe is not cohesive. Europeans have never stopped waging war against each other. Even today Europe is anything but united. Especially the divide between Slavs and Western Europeans is still immense.
At no point in time has Christianity ever changed anything about that. Actually you could argue it made it worse with the persecution of pagans, heretics and all the inter-religious wars between Catholics and Protestants. This stupid religious divide was still a big thing even just 50 years ago.
The cultural differences between European nations are vast to this day. Even within a nation there are great regional differences. If you go back a century those differences are many times greater. And those differences are very important and should be valued highly. Because they are what makes Europe great.
Thinking of yourself as White is mostly an American thing.
Could you share a link for the writings?
I don't have a link on hand unfortunately but they are public domain (a good translation is key). You might have to go outside the usual zogged channels for one.
I haven't read christian texts besides watching lotr so this is uncharted territory for me.
tips yarmulke
Keep repeating things only jews heave ever said and you’ll keep being laughed at.
So Middle Easterners are Europeans now? Jews are White? Alrighty then.
That’s cute. Keep up the linguistic games like the good little jew you are. Do you think they’re going to work?
I wouldn't go so far as to call this jew trickery. Christianity is indeed a Middle Eastern Abrahamic religion. And many European nationalists hate it. Scandinavians would be a good example.
Don't ignore the context like a faggot. The now was obviously not meant as in today you absolute mongoloid.
Before the 8th century AD, the entire Mediterranean was White.
Really? The Numidians were White now? Jews too? All of the Egyptians as well? Come on. Pretending there were no other races besides Europeans in North Africa/Middle East is ridiculous.
Yeah can you expand on this one for me?
I’m not sure what needs expounded upon. The entirety of the Levant was white 2000 years ago. North Africa was also European. Jesus is written of in contemporary terms as having blonde hair. The only reason the Middle East, North Africa, and Anatolia are brown today is the Islamic rape conquest.
Out of curiosity, do you have good sources for this? A member of my family refuses to believe it and I want to try and red pill them. Probably a waste of time but figured worth a shot.