The reformation diminished the Churches influence and power immensely. European rulers telling the Church to go fuck itself did lead to the modern European nations, yes. But the foundations of those nations is older than Christianity itself. The foundation are the European tribes. Their blood not their religion.
The modern European Nations wouldn't exist without Christianity.
"Modern" meaning since 1500s or so.
You'll have to explain that because I can't make sense of it. Especially the cutoff point. Why the 1500s?
Protestant Reformation for one
The reformation diminished the Churches influence and power immensely. European rulers telling the Church to go fuck itself did lead to the modern European nations, yes. But the foundations of those nations is older than Christianity itself. The foundation are the European tribes. Their blood not their religion.