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Judge presiding over Maduro's case (en.wikipedia.org)
posted 169 days ago by nikgtasa 169 days ago by nikgtasa +68 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 21 points 169 days ago +21 / -0

I sure hope this judge doesn't let Maduro get away with possession of machine guns in violation of a 1932 US law.

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– daberoniandcheese 17 points 169 days ago +17 / -0

Glad it's a jew old enough to remember the destruction of Solomon's temple. Wouldn't have it any other way.

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– MargarineMongoose 17 points 169 days ago +17 / -0

Let's be real, the judge presiding over this is irrelevant because this was always going to be a show trial. You don't kidnap a world leader and put them on trial only for them to get found free of any wrongdoing.

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– Kienan 14 points 169 days ago +14 / -0

Although that would be hilarious.

Honestly, just for absurdity, I now hope he gets found not guilty. What a fucking bizarre position that would be.

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– 70thLike 6 points 169 days ago +6 / -0

I 100% agree. And then deport him back to Venezuela where he's hanged for all the fucked up shit he did to their people.

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– Kienan 15 points 169 days ago +15 / -0

Interesting. Not quite sure what to make of it. He's ruled against Trump multiple times, and he's also ruled against the state and against the military even before Trump. So on the surface he's not just some flunky.

It is interesting that he was a JAG lieutenant, though. A dude with military connections is in charge of the...rather unusual trial of Maduro, who was just militarily extradited from a foreign country. He's also currently overseeing Hugo Carvajal's case. And ruled against Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act in regard to Venezuelans.

Also, the link at the bottom of the page "List of Jewish American jurists"...I tried to open it, but it said my bandwidth limit for the whole decade had been exceeded, and then my computer caught fire under the strain.

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– m0r1arty 13 points 169 days ago +13 / -0

Dude's 7 years away from being a century old.

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– rebuildingMyself 15 points 169 days ago +15 / -0

Judges need term/age limits more than Congress at this point

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– deleted 3 points 169 days ago +3 / -0
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– BeefyBelisarius 13 points 169 days ago +13 / -0

So, why exactly are we trying a foreign head of state in a domestic court? Are we claiming to have legal jurisdiction over South America now? Oh wait, we already did that with Noriega decades ago.

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– deleted 7 points 169 days ago +7 / -0
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– 70thLike 11 points 169 days ago +11 / -0

I knew it was a jew before expanding this post.

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– censorthisss 3 points 169 days ago +3 / -0

Anyone seen a decent analysis of what happens if he's cleared in court?

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– llirrem 3 points 169 days ago +3 / -0

Why are we giving the dictator a trial? Just put a bullet in his head and call it a day.

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– ernsithe 8 points 169 days ago +8 / -0

On paper: to prevent the abuse of being able to call any any leader a dictator and bypass due process.
In reality: to demoralize any supporters and spread it out across a longer time so there isn't a single event to galvanize them.

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– llirrem 1 point 169 days ago +1 / -0

Okay, and when the activist judge dismisses the case and demands he be returned to power?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 168 days ago +1 / -0

The judge is going to rule on the charges, not on returning someone to power. And yeah, if he isn't an activist, he's going to laugh these charges out of court.

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– llirrem 1 point 168 days ago +1 / -0

The judge is going to rule on the charges, not on returning someone to power

If the judge rules that his arrest was "illegal" then what do you think that's going to mean? Sure, the Trump admin could just ignore the ruling but so far he hasn't ignored jack shit from these activist judges. If the court rules that his arrest was "illegal" then BY LAW he has to be released.

if he isn't an activist

That's a pretty big IF in this day and age

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 168 days ago +1 / -0

If the judge rules that his arrest was "illegal" then what do you think that's going to mean? Sure, the Trump admin could just ignore the ruling but so far he hasn't ignored jack shit from these activist judges. If the court rules that his arrest was "illegal" then BY LAW he has to be released.

Yeah, which it is. You talked about the judge returning him to power.

That's a pretty big IF in this day and age

I agree. He's probably an activist who's going to follow the US security state's dictates.

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– ernsithe 1 point 168 days ago +1 / -0

Not even activist judges have the ability to return him to power. You just keep the charges and trials (with different judges) coming until your new regime is in solidified. They already got him to waive his right to a "speed trial."

Even if somehow he walks on all of them, none of the Venezuelans in power by that point will want to step aside to let him back in.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 169 days ago +5 / -0

You think the US only kills leaders if they are "dictators"? Evidently, you're not familiar with Patrice Lumumba.

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– llirrem 1 point 169 days ago +1 / -0

What does that have to do with this one specific individual who is, in fact, a dictator?

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 168 days ago +2 / -0

Because your "dictator" meme is retarded? What is the relevance even? You don't even know that your country installs and backs dictators in many places?

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– llirrem 1 point 168 days ago +1 / -0

Because your "dictator" meme is retarded?

What meme? He was, factually, a dictator.

What is the relevance even?

The relevance is that he was a dictator whose own people want dead, who we captured through a military coup. If anything the irrelevance is you getting so hung up on the word "dictator". What would you rather I call him " a leader with political differences"?

You don't even know that your country installs and backs dictators in many places?

I love how me thinking they should kill this dictator who we have arrested and is in currently in US custody has somehow made you think I'm not completely aware of the very shitty things the US government has done around the world. Apparently in your mind it's not possible for a person to both be for killing people like Maduro and also be an American purely because our government has put people like Maduro in power around the world in the past.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 168 days ago +1 / -0

The relevance is that he was a dictator whose own people want dead,

Great job, you fell for a bunch of AI-created videos.

If anything the irrelevance is you getting so hung up on the word "dictator". What would you rather I call him " a leader with political differences"?

Maybe point to the reason they abducted him.

I love how me thinking they should kill this dictator who we have arrested and is in currently in US custody has somehow made you think I'm not completely aware of the very shitty things the US government has done around the world.

I don't know, probably because you echo their propaganda? He's a dictator, but you were pretending that this is the reason the US hates him. That's quite absurd.

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– SameUnderstanding 2 points 168 days ago +2 / -0

Of course it's a -stein

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– TrashWolf 1 point 168 days ago +1 / -0

He presided over the aftermath of 9/11 too! Isn't that cool?

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– deleted 1 point 169 days ago +1 / -0

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