The Turks would do that if the Ottomans had actually colonized Algeria. But they didn't.
Only the city of Algiers and its surroundings was on paper part of the Ottoman empire but still being effectively independent. The rest of Algeria was controlled by various tribes. That's why the Ottomans didn't give a shit when the US slapped around the Berber states, not when Britain slapped harder and not even when France invaded.
They had a very subversive attitude even back then. Algeria was conquered, then “governed but independent” (while hosting massive amounts of the ottoman military and a de facto hub of Ottoman governance. They technically couldn’t castrate slaves in the empire by their “religious laws” so they used “third parties” to carry out the capture, castration, and transport of slaves.
Back when? Because that obviously wasn't case in the late 1700s, early 1800s. The fact is Algeria was never colonized by the Ottomans. Conquered yes but pretty much only the city of Algiers as subjugating a land full of countless warring tribes is extremely costly. Just look at how long it took France to pacify Algeria and how many people they had to sacrifice. And in the end they failed and flooded France with millions of North Africans because they were retarded enough to treat French Algeria as an actual part of France.
You’re talking 200 years after the Ottoman Empire conquered Algiers in 1516 to begin with. Algeria the region was most definitely conquered the ottomans however never maintained it as a region and only used it as a piracy, trade, and slave hub.
Piracy and slavery was integral to the Berber states already. Becoming part of the Ottoman Empire did not change anything about it. Getting colonized didn't change anything either. If globally things deteriorate to a point where piracy would become viable again they would revert back to being pirates and slavers.
And no Algeria as a region was not conquered and pacified by the Ottomans. They conquered Spanish controlled Algiers, Algiers joined the Ottoman Empire and the rest of Algeria just kept on being tribal. Sometimes the tribes did what Algiers wanted, sometimes they didn't.
That's the nature of a tribalistic country. You never really control it unless you can manage to change its tribal culture. Just look at Libya. Gaddafi controlled the tribes. They respected him. The second he was gone Libya reverted back to a tribalistic shithole stuck in perpetual civil war.
The Berbers piracy was entirely due to the Ottomans, unless you have some documentation I’ve never seen anything that shows the slave trade and piracy exploding before the 16th century. Again you keep adding in things I never said, no one claimed it was pacified, it was repeatedly conquered by Arabs and caliphates for centuries, the tribes being allowed to exist after doesn’t mean they weren’t repeatedly conquered. The tlemcen kingdom that was greater Algiers was destroyed by the Ottoman Empire. The ottomans then took the land they wanted and let others fight over the rest.
I’ve never seen anything that shows the slave trade and piracy exploding before the 16th century.
Piracy and slavery in the Mediterranean was always an issue since ancient times. Italy and the Balkans had to constantly deal with slave raids. It increased in the 16th century because Spain lost control of Algeria. The Ottomans obviously didn't have an issue with Berber pirates targeting Europeans. Why would they? They wanted to conquer Europe anyway. Privateers are a great tool to exercise pressure on your enemies.
But saying that the Ottomans made the Berbers into pirates and slavers is like saying the Europeans made Africans into slavers. Just as Africans enslaved Africans long before the Europeans started to buy African slaves and increased the demand, the Berbers engaged in piracy long before the Ottomans turned up.
Anyway we're getting offtrack. The original point was Algeria wasn't colonized by the Ottomans. That's a fact. Colonization and conquest are not interchangeable terms.
The capital was, their empire spread all across western and central North Africa, southern Iberia and assorted Mediterranean islands before the Punic Wars.
He was calling to finish the job in between the 2nd and 3rd Punic Wars, but it turns out I remembered wrong and Carthage lost everything but Tunisia in the 2nd war. For some reason I was thinking they had more of North Africa at that point.
Marching Whites into lands tainted with chemical weapons? You JIDF cretins are on another level of evil. If you truly wanted White Christians to succeed, you'd use high-explosive weapons on the enemy cities followed up by gunship sweeps. Next, you'd create supply lines and deliver the necessary supplies to help them rapidly build up border defenses and new homes immediately after.
But no, your hatred against Christians in general and Whites in particular out you yet again.
Besides, you mudslimes hate it when a country throws off the yoke of islamic slavery. The fact you wanted White Christians moved into a country surrounded by islamic nations with no military backing is further proof that you want them dying for the sake of your owners.
You will now pointlessly beg for replies since I've destroyed your argument. But no matter how hard you try to larp as a White, your seething hatred of Whites and Christians will always betray you.
Because they know the Turks would tell them to eat Camel shit.
Or they might return to finish the job.
The Turks would do that if the Ottomans had actually colonized Algeria. But they didn't.
Only the city of Algiers and its surroundings was on paper part of the Ottoman empire but still being effectively independent. The rest of Algeria was controlled by various tribes. That's why the Ottomans didn't give a shit when the US slapped around the Berber states, not when Britain slapped harder and not even when France invaded.
They had a very subversive attitude even back then. Algeria was conquered, then “governed but independent” (while hosting massive amounts of the ottoman military and a de facto hub of Ottoman governance. They technically couldn’t castrate slaves in the empire by their “religious laws” so they used “third parties” to carry out the capture, castration, and transport of slaves.
Back when? Because that obviously wasn't case in the late 1700s, early 1800s. The fact is Algeria was never colonized by the Ottomans. Conquered yes but pretty much only the city of Algiers as subjugating a land full of countless warring tribes is extremely costly. Just look at how long it took France to pacify Algeria and how many people they had to sacrifice. And in the end they failed and flooded France with millions of North Africans because they were retarded enough to treat French Algeria as an actual part of France.
You’re talking 200 years after the Ottoman Empire conquered Algiers in 1516 to begin with. Algeria the region was most definitely conquered the ottomans however never maintained it as a region and only used it as a piracy, trade, and slave hub.
Piracy and slavery was integral to the Berber states already. Becoming part of the Ottoman Empire did not change anything about it. Getting colonized didn't change anything either. If globally things deteriorate to a point where piracy would become viable again they would revert back to being pirates and slavers.
And no Algeria as a region was not conquered and pacified by the Ottomans. They conquered Spanish controlled Algiers, Algiers joined the Ottoman Empire and the rest of Algeria just kept on being tribal. Sometimes the tribes did what Algiers wanted, sometimes they didn't.
That's the nature of a tribalistic country. You never really control it unless you can manage to change its tribal culture. Just look at Libya. Gaddafi controlled the tribes. They respected him. The second he was gone Libya reverted back to a tribalistic shithole stuck in perpetual civil war.
The Berbers piracy was entirely due to the Ottomans, unless you have some documentation I’ve never seen anything that shows the slave trade and piracy exploding before the 16th century. Again you keep adding in things I never said, no one claimed it was pacified, it was repeatedly conquered by Arabs and caliphates for centuries, the tribes being allowed to exist after doesn’t mean they weren’t repeatedly conquered. The tlemcen kingdom that was greater Algiers was destroyed by the Ottoman Empire. The ottomans then took the land they wanted and let others fight over the rest.
Piracy and slavery in the Mediterranean was always an issue since ancient times. Italy and the Balkans had to constantly deal with slave raids. It increased in the 16th century because Spain lost control of Algeria. The Ottomans obviously didn't have an issue with Berber pirates targeting Europeans. Why would they? They wanted to conquer Europe anyway. Privateers are a great tool to exercise pressure on your enemies.
But saying that the Ottomans made the Berbers into pirates and slavers is like saying the Europeans made Africans into slavers. Just as Africans enslaved Africans long before the Europeans started to buy African slaves and increased the demand, the Berbers engaged in piracy long before the Ottomans turned up.
Anyway we're getting offtrack. The original point was Algeria wasn't colonized by the Ottomans. That's a fact. Colonization and conquest are not interchangeable terms.
Carthago delenda est
Carthage is in Tunisia.
And spread into the Iberian peninsula which means it's territory included Algeria
It's close enough.
The capital was, their empire spread all across western and central North Africa, southern Iberia and assorted Mediterranean islands before the Punic Wars.
https://www.freeenglishsite.com/empires/maps/Carthage.png
Not by the end of the Punic Wars. When Cato said Cartago delenda est he was referring specifically to the city.
He was calling to finish the job in between the 2nd and 3rd Punic Wars, but it turns out I remembered wrong and Carthage lost everything but Tunisia in the 2nd war. For some reason I was thinking they had more of North Africa at that point.
Scipio did nothing wrong.
Except not finishing the job.
France should've exterminated them to the last
I’ve said for decades now that the only thing the colonial powers did wrong was leave anyone alive in the lands they conquered.
Macron is chomping at the bit to offer up his tranny "wife" as a down payment.
I pray for the return of the spirit of Charles Martel, El Cid, and Charlemagne
Flyover the entire country with chemical weapons. Repopulate with white Christians. Rename to Mauritania Caesariensis.
Marching Whites into lands tainted with chemical weapons? You JIDF cretins are on another level of evil. If you truly wanted White Christians to succeed, you'd use high-explosive weapons on the enemy cities followed up by gunship sweeps. Next, you'd create supply lines and deliver the necessary supplies to help them rapidly build up border defenses and new homes immediately after.
But no, your hatred against Christians in general and Whites in particular out you yet again.
lol
Translation: NOOO DONT QUESTION ME!
Besides, you mudslimes hate it when a country throws off the yoke of islamic slavery. The fact you wanted White Christians moved into a country surrounded by islamic nations with no military backing is further proof that you want them dying for the sake of your owners.
You will now pointlessly beg for replies since I've destroyed your argument. But no matter how hard you try to larp as a White, your seething hatred of Whites and Christians will always betray you.
lol
Said the brown.
You mean what I’m calling for?
Random strawman, lol.
ANOTHER random strawman, lol.
Said the brown.
Reply again.
All that desperate denial and you didn't call me a liar and prove me wrong. You don't have an argument, so you're reduced to comedic personal attacks.
Not really an argument. Are you still upset about this?
https://archive.is/Vq9Ad#selection-1853.0-1853.26
You were seething so hard, I couldn't bear to interrupt your envy-stained misery.
lol
The brown doesn’t understand English, lol.
“You openly said you want to exterminate all dune coons, therefore you support dune coons and you’re lying if you say I’m wrong!”
lol
Thanks; it is pretty funny that you’re so bad at your job.
But you admitted publicly to being zero percent white. Three times.
That one time I pushed ManletShil so hard that it had a panic attack and replied... to the wrong post.
lol
lol
Ha, so much seething and envy that you bungled up and responded twice!
You will continue to deny reality, because your mind would break completely if you looked at your own posts.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Next time, just wipe the slate clean before starting your colony.
ah.. Algeria.. another CIA project who's pricetag has come due.