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Algeria demands reparations from France (but none from the Turks for 3 centuries of colonialism) (twitter.com)
posted 171 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 171 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +89 / -0
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– horstshort 11 points 171 days ago +11 / -0

The Turks would do that if the Ottomans had actually colonized Algeria. But they didn't.

Only the city of Algiers and its surroundings was on paper part of the Ottoman empire but still being effectively independent. The rest of Algeria was controlled by various tribes. That's why the Ottomans didn't give a shit when the US slapped around the Berber states, not when Britain slapped harder and not even when France invaded.

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– Ahaus667 4 points 171 days ago +4 / -0

They had a very subversive attitude even back then. Algeria was conquered, then “governed but independent” (while hosting massive amounts of the ottoman military and a de facto hub of Ottoman governance. They technically couldn’t castrate slaves in the empire by their “religious laws” so they used “third parties” to carry out the capture, castration, and transport of slaves.

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– horstshort 1 point 171 days ago +1 / -0

back then

Back when? Because that obviously wasn't case in the late 1700s, early 1800s. The fact is Algeria was never colonized by the Ottomans. Conquered yes but pretty much only the city of Algiers as subjugating a land full of countless warring tribes is extremely costly. Just look at how long it took France to pacify Algeria and how many people they had to sacrifice. And in the end they failed and flooded France with millions of North Africans because they were retarded enough to treat French Algeria as an actual part of France.

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– Ahaus667 3 points 171 days ago +3 / -0

You’re talking 200 years after the Ottoman Empire conquered Algiers in 1516 to begin with. Algeria the region was most definitely conquered the ottomans however never maintained it as a region and only used it as a piracy, trade, and slave hub.

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– horstshort 1 point 171 days ago +1 / -0

Piracy and slavery was integral to the Berber states already. Becoming part of the Ottoman Empire did not change anything about it. Getting colonized didn't change anything either. If globally things deteriorate to a point where piracy would become viable again they would revert back to being pirates and slavers.

And no Algeria as a region was not conquered and pacified by the Ottomans. They conquered Spanish controlled Algiers, Algiers joined the Ottoman Empire and the rest of Algeria just kept on being tribal. Sometimes the tribes did what Algiers wanted, sometimes they didn't.

That's the nature of a tribalistic country. You never really control it unless you can manage to change its tribal culture. Just look at Libya. Gaddafi controlled the tribes. They respected him. The second he was gone Libya reverted back to a tribalistic shithole stuck in perpetual civil war.

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