Epstein Files - what changed?
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Those two things can both be true. You can care about it, even consider it your #1 at the start of this year, and then be worn down by the complete nonsense its devolved into to the point of saying "shit or get off the pot already."
The big batch of emails just leaked have changed literally nothing about anyone's opinions, even though they clearly should, beyond memes about Trump totally blowing Clinton and Putin blackmailing him with it. Nobody cares about any justice or victims anymore, they just want a cudgel to attack their pre-chosen Elite with and the "Files" are just a ever out of reach implicator for that purpose.
I doubt this woman is that smart, it is a woman after all, and is merely flipflopping as Trump does, but the shift isn't unreasonable.
I think you do make a good point that it's difficult to maintain righteous anger at huge industrial-scale elite pedophile sex rings where it is so blackpilling that no one of great import will ever be held to account.
But in this case, whomever this Twitter rando is, they go farther than indifference or blackpilling, repeating Trump talking points such as that suddenly "no files exist" after the likes of Pam Bondi, Kash Patel & Dan Bogino tried to gaslight & backtrack earlier in the year.
It is also bizarrely tries to shift blame from Trump & his admin, suggesting that the holdup is victim blaming Epstein's trafficked girls. That they should simply waltz into their local police precinct & file a report with the very zogbots bought & paid for by the elite men that raped them.
Or that somehow the victims aren't naming names for their own personal financial gain. Instead of being conveniently unalived like some the public victims before them.
Her specific line of thinking is complete garbage, but I also expect this level of retardation from women speaking politics anyway. They follow the social current or whatever will get them the best/most attention, and that will never be improved.
Its especially nonsensical, because we know enough victims who are willing to be known. And those who aren't both deserve to have their identities covered or don't care enough to pursue anything from this point. I don't think the victims are the problem with this story in any regard as Virginia Giuffre did plenty for the cause, including being the "smoking gun" that continues to prove Trump likely didn't diddle anyone there. Something the recent batch released seemed to confirm her story. So you'd think they'd double down with those instead of backtracking.
The victims did as much as I think anyone could ever expect from them, if not above it considering the powerful men they were up against, and only a woman could try to shift blame to them in such a manner. No one lies about rape unless its some whore lying about your man.
However, I'll continue with the idea that "no files exist." Not in that Bondi and them's backpedal is right, but that "The File" has ceased to be a real thing that could possibly exist in any way. Nothing contained in any file could reach the hype that has been placed upon the mythical Epstein Files. Even if there was a specific little book he kept with every name written in plain English with the exact crime they were committing, it would be dismissed if it did or did not hit the exact Narrative people wanted from it.
That's simply my opinion on it though, we should continue to pester upon that tree to try and get it but I think if we got everything it would be far less than satisfying to anyone.
If this was the case and Trump's administration simply explained this and released the underwhelming documents they have, anger would mostly be defused.
But the administration went on to claim that Epstein's operation was a "hoax" and that he never offered underage girls to anyone, and also he killed himself. This blatantly contradicts factual information that was released, albeit, importantly, not through government channels.
If Trump/Bondi/Patel's official release of info simply confirmed - with the official seal of the United States - what we already know, that Dershowitz, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew etc are on the flight logs, that Epstein was in bed with Israeli intelligence (confirmed with leaked emails), and that he most likely was assassinated, only kooks would be mad. But the government cannot ever admit that Israel was behind Epstein, or that Epstein was an intelligence asset first and foremost, and in true Trump fashion, he followed "deny, deny, counteraccusation" to the letter to protect the mafia.
He just needs to come out and say "OK, it was Mossad and the CIA."
Of this I have no disagreement. They have bungled it horribly and for increasingly suspicious reasons.
The whole "no files exist" talking point is also somewhat of a distraction and a sleight of hand IMO.
It is true that those still pushing to have "the Epstein files released" want the US government & DOJ to officially name names of those guilty of pedophile sex crimes.
But it's also implied I believe that the official naming of names should be accompanied by federal investigation & prosecution.
The issue with simply taking a "there's no files" technical loophole stance is that one becomes complicit as well that Trump’s DOJ, just like Biden's before him, is doing jackshit about bringing any of Epstein's historic elite clients to justice.
The admin's version of "there is no file" is absolutely them trying to weasel around releasing information, for whatever reason they may have justifiable or not.
I'm merely of the believe that there is no actual "File" (capital letter trademarked) in that there is something people would agree is THE File that the phrase has come to be talking about. The legend of it as this document that would officially and unquestioningly (important, as any slight hole would make it useless) name names and allow prosecution is greater than I think any thing could reach by this point.
There might have been at some point, but such a thing absolutely would have been destroyed instantly by the same people who killed him.
Women in America are never held accountable. Knocked up by a worthless nigger? Get an abortion for free. Your husband doesn't do everything you say? Divorce rape him and get rewarded for a failed marriage. Commit pedophilia as a school teacher? Rarely go to prison for it like a man would.
Nick Fuentes is right about American women being unaccountable. He takes it too far in being a faggot, though.
To find a very conservative, based woman you have to ask her father for permission to date her. That's how you get to where no man has gone before.
I just want my government to show some transparency for the first time in my life. The nonstop propaganda from everywhere is just infuriating. One side says "trust me bro, Eastasia is behind Epstein", while the other says "that's a hoax, it was totally Eurasia." Fuck them both.
I'm done listening to any of their excuses or their deflections. They can show us everything and let us make up our own minds or they can fuck off. This charade of pretending like our institutions have any credibility on which to demand our trust is absurd. I wouldn't trust the DOJ or the FBI to wash my fucking car, so I'll be damned if I trust them to handle all of this behind closed doors.
Then you wouldn't trust anything they released either unless it specifically meets your own criteria that you have already assumed is within it or within at least a margin of error of that.
Which is my point. Its completely eclipsed any care about pedos or justice and become a rallying call to scream about how much you hate the government or specific people within it. That's completely valid to do so of course, but it also means the actual literal 'files' themselves mean nothing and couldn't possibly satisfy anyone short of an impossible miracle.
You have no reason to trust them in the slightest, the list of reasons why could go on forever, but the entire discussion keeps this coy "if you just release them bro, then we will let it go bro and everyone will be happy bro" when we all know no one will ever move on from it.
And blindly taking their word while they bury it is better? I say let them release their fabrications and we will see how well they hold up to the weaponized autism of the internet.
If they keep it buried, the chances of people moving on from it is 0%. You have not made a single point that would justify keeping them buried. Your posts just come off as concern trolling for the victims as cover to keep protecting the perpetrators.
Edit: sunlight is the best disinfectant, remember. That applies when "our" guy is in charge too.
Because there isn't one. I haven't defended how they've gone about this in the slightest because its retarded, and has been for years.
My point was about the conversation surrounding it eclipsing the reality of it, to a point where it doesn't matter if it comes out. It has joined the ranks of Roswell, JFK, and 9/11 where literally nothing released on it matters, only what you want it to say deciding if they actually released The File instead of a fabrication.
After all, they just released a massive amount of files for us to peruse and literally no one gave the slightest iota of a shit. I've read a lot of them and still am, have you? Since this is apparently a very big deal to you, I'd hope so but apparently that's work for autists to do that you can just take their word for it when they say what you want to hear.
True that! A lot has happened in 9 months.
The big batch of e-mails was released by the Republicans. The Dems had them all too, and only released 3 after altering them.
I personally think that the Dems taking the word of Epstein as Gospel is a poor moral decision, eh? The Dems have pivoted on a dime: Epstein and Trump were partners, BFFs! To: Epstein hated Trump because Trump was so evil! 🤡
Biden didn't care about the victims for 4 years, no one said a word about it.
And yes, changing one's mind over the course of 9 months is reasonable. Not to Dems though, they only change their "minds" when told to. Natalie is attacking her for thinking for herself.
This woman is still retarded, as her new rationale is foolish and shows she really didn't have any thought to begin with beyond parroting.
But trying to rest on "she changed her tune!" as the entire counter is foolish. A lot of new information has come out and its completely reasonable to flip in light of that. Not on your principle of course, but on the situation at hand and how you feel about it.
Is that really in the emails? That Trump blew Clinton?
A random email between ol' Jeffrey and his Brother asks if Putin has photos of Trump "blowing Bubba" which everyone assumes is Bill Clinton.
This is the only thing anyone has talked about from the massive amount of documents, because its basically the only thing they have because the majority of the emails absolve Trump of wrong doing with how many times they talk about needing to get him to "bark." As far as I've seen so far, there is a lot of them to get through.
In fact, it revealed that Epstein had almost terminal TDS as he was obsessed with talking about him all the time and openly was conspiring to invent evidence of wrongdoing to try and get him under his thumb.
That's if you believe they are real of course. I'm not fully convinced, simply because my mind cannot accept that a man on Epstein's level types like a retarded teen girl via unsecure gmail messages.
I've seen the private communications of a handful of pretty rich people. I can confirm, literacy does not pay the bills, not even close.
Its funny then, that the hilariously fake "birthday letter" they tried to release earlier this year was dismissed because of how obviously nobody writes like that.
But then it turns out Epstein totally did.
I mean, if you're on that level, do you really need to put the effort in? Especially considering how dirty he was playing to get there.
There's one message in particular that had some throwaway joke of "Ask Putin if he has that video of Donnie blowing Bubba" (quote from memory, not necessarily verbatim, but pretty close).
It's in the middle of a series of messages of back and forth shit talking and weird sexual jokes, where it seems to me like they're just indulging in depraved trash talk rather than being serious.
Gotcha. I guess a lot of people on the left are taking that seriously
Just something I wrote since this whole shindig started: