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Patsy theory (twitter.com)
posted 262 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 262 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +65 / -0
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– Kienan 6 points 262 days ago +6 / -0

Didn't his father say he confessed at home? Is there any reason to doubt his father?

I'm just spitballing here - until I see more, I'm thinking this dude did it - but his dad did have military/law enforcement connections, right? An ex-sheriff, I think. A bunch of these shooters and alleged shooters have family law enforcement connections. It's possible, but not the likeliest explanation, that the dad's connections go deeper (a lot of local law enforcement still train with the feds, and even internationally), and he was willing to frame his estranged son. Again, I don't think so, but I just thought I'd address outside possibilities.

Again, to be clear, until I hear more, I think this guy is the shooter. Although there's also stuff not adding up, but that will hopefully be exposed down the line.

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– Galean 5 points 262 days ago +5 / -0

I prefer to think that no father would do that without an exceptional reason. The father is Christian so he would hope for the prodigal son to return.

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– Kienan 9 points 262 days ago +9 / -0

I prefer to think that no father would do that without an exceptional reason.

I'd love to think that too, but we see the opposite too often.

The leftist victims of violent crime like ethnic food and immigrants more than their own daughters. The fathers of school shooters (when they're around) all happen to be FBI agents. (Exaggeration, obviously, but there's a very real trend.)

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– MattTheBlack 3 points 262 days ago +3 / -0

No he's a Mormon

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– Ender910 1 point 262 days ago +1 / -0

Not if his father thought he was accomplishing some deranged idea of a "greater good". In his hypothetical mind of course.

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– Galean 4 points 262 days ago +4 / -0

I could see it from a leftiest but not a Christian conservative. The left is all about sacrificing for the "greater good"

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– Ender910 5 points 262 days ago +5 / -0

You have to remember that we're also talking about Mormons. Not that I'm going on a negative rant about Mormons, but they do have some opinions, beliefs, and takes that might deviate a little from the stereotypical American Christian conservative.

IE, there was a Mormon (ex-CIA) trying to run against Trump a few years ago because there were a fair number of Mormons who weren't entirely happy with how "mean" and "rude" Trump was conducting himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_McMullin

Edit: And looks like he got 21% of the state vote. Which is a rather significant number of votes for an independent in such a close race.

The FBI and CIA also have a history of recruiting a lot of Mormons, and if the father did indeed have some connections with that level of law enforcement... I dunno. There's a possible connection there.

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– ModsAreAIDS 1 point 262 days ago +1 / -0

The right is all about sacrificing for the "greater good" too, as long as that greater good is in Israel. I need to know if the father is a mormon, or a judeo-mormon before I can rule it out.

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– Ender910 4 points 262 days ago +4 / -0

Could it be that the alleged "tranny roommate" framed him? Or maybe this is a weird case of a "criss cross" scheme between the two.

IE, Tyler takes the fall until they're actually in court, and then pulls out some evidence in the middle of it that actually proves his innocence. To give the prosecution a black eye, and I guess to incite events without him actually getting convicted.

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– Galean 4 points 262 days ago +4 / -0

That is actually a good scenario and the guy is probably smart enough to pull that.

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– Kienan 4 points 262 days ago +4 / -0

Anything's possible at this point, but seems rather unlikely. Would make a good movie, though.

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– Ender910 3 points 262 days ago +3 / -0

Admittedly, I'm only familiar with the idea based on a movie cliche.

But it really did strike me as odd at how quickly the alleged tranny roommate gave him up, and how quickly the media (including right-wing) went with the story.

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– BeefyBelisarius 2 points 262 days ago +2 / -0

IE, Tyler takes the fall until they're actually in court, and then pulls out some evidence in the middle of it that actually proves his innocence.

Nah, that only works on TV dramas. Any evidence that will be presented at trial must be made available to both sides before the trial starts, otherwise it isn't admissible.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 4 points 262 days ago +4 / -0

Not quite the same thing, but Eddie Gallagher the SEAL got off on his war crimes charges by recruiting a witness who obtained legal immunity, then confessed to the crime on the stand.

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