Lolbertarians are clowns, but Rand Paul is right here, and once the hysteria dies down and/or the government uses this to abuse its power further, people will come to realize that.
Obama used drones to kill American citizens without due process. The media thought it no big desl. We kill a bunch of Narco Terrorists contributing to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans a year and it's the worst thing imaginable. The story was in all the press that we were sending war ships to Venezuela for this purpose. The Narco Terrorists knew the threat. Maybe they shoulld hsve just stayed home.
Obama used drones to kill American citizens without due process. The media thought it no big desl.
This is Rand Paul and he has been very consistent on this matter. You just don't like it that he's now criticizing your guy rather than their guy.
We kill a bunch of Narco Terrorists
Is this actually proven, or is it just claimed by the government?
Is it good that the government can kill people with no due process by just claiming that they are 'narco-terrorists', any more than that they can kill people with no due process by claiming that they're terrorists?
That’s why libertarians are retarded. They only succeed in stopping right wing government.
And that's a good point too. I hope I didn't indicate any sympathy for lolbertarians, though Rand Paul is a good one. That said, if he can move conservative governments to be right-wing while also respecting constitutional principles, that is a win-win.
We have declared war a real war on drugs and their cartels. They are killing hundreds of thousands of our people. If there is some collateral damage so be itbut I don't they were innocent. Our constitutional due process applys to Americsn citizens.
He's not right here at all. And you as usual don't know the first goddamn thing about military matters and ought to have kept your mouth shut.
Venezuela(among several others) is engaged in terrorism against the people of the United States, and it has been the law since before any of us were ever born that non uniformed combatants have no rights whatsoever.
If you want to fight another country, put a uniform on, pick up a gun, and go fight them. That is the sole legal means of conducting acts against them. Engaging in "restricted warfare" like the Chinese call it, renders your agents bereft of all protections.
The Barbary Pirates got no quarter. We don't have to give any to these narcos either.
I'm not terribly comfortable with them droning a boat in foreign waters, but if the blockade is announced(I don't think it officially was) it is fair game.
It would also, absolutely, be fair game if a boat of foreigners in a foreign craft were rushing at high speed towards US waters away from a port of entry. US Coast Guard revenue cutters have had cannons for that purpose continually for hundreds of years. They don't have a right to enter US waters with contraband goods. They outfitted their boat to outrun Coast Guard (US or someone else's).
I'm not terribly comfortable with them droning a boat in foreign waters, but if the blockade is announced(I don't think it officially was) it is fair game.
A blockade is an act of war. Does that require a declaration of war?
No, it requires declaring a blockade, then it would be on Venezuela to declare war or seek UN aid. If the UNSC approves the blockade, then Venezuela is on their own. If the UNSC does not approve, they can seek a resolution from the UN the General Assembly, which the US can veto. They are thus back to square one, and can make war and seek allies in a bilateral fashion.
They likely realize that would go poorly for them, and so they are doing as they are doing and complaining and nothing more.
I have zero issue with the US government blowing every unauthorized vessel out of the water. Start doing it on the border too. The people invading have made it clear how much contempt they have for my country and they intend to take it over
I agree that this is a violent action, but the unfortunate reality is that these are invaders who are killing us, and they should not be given the quarter that we would give any citizen. This is the right thing to do if we are to dissuade further efforts to literally (in some cases) conquer our homes and communities.
Lolbertarians are clowns, but Rand Paul is right here, and once the hysteria dies down and/or the government uses this to abuse its power further, people will come to realize that.
Obama used drones to kill American citizens without due process. The media thought it no big desl. We kill a bunch of Narco Terrorists contributing to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans a year and it's the worst thing imaginable. The story was in all the press that we were sending war ships to Venezuela for this purpose. The Narco Terrorists knew the threat. Maybe they shoulld hsve just stayed home.
They think this is still the 00s. America got radicalised by watching the govt baby criminals and their rights and now they want mr a style justice
This is Rand Paul and he has been very consistent on this matter. You just don't like it that he's now criticizing your guy rather than their guy.
Is this actually proven, or is it just claimed by the government?
Is it good that the government can kill people with no due process by just claiming that they are 'narco-terrorists', any more than that they can kill people with no due process by claiming that they're terrorists?
Rand Paul votes against leftists when they’re in power, and nothing happens.
Rand Paul votes against conservatives when they’re in power, and it threatens to derail everything.
That’s why libertarians are retarded. They only succeed in stopping right wing government.
And that's a good point too. I hope I didn't indicate any sympathy for lolbertarians, though Rand Paul is a good one. That said, if he can move conservative governments to be right-wing while also respecting constitutional principles, that is a win-win.
We have declared war a real war on drugs and their cartels. They are killing hundreds of thousands of our people. If there is some collateral damage so be itbut I don't they were innocent. Our constitutional due process applys to Americsn citizens.
That so? So Congress declared war, or is that yet another 'conservative principle' that you threw overboard?
Absolutely false, unless you think that Biden could prosecute me for criticizing him because I'm not an American citizen.
He's not right here at all. And you as usual don't know the first goddamn thing about military matters and ought to have kept your mouth shut.
Venezuela(among several others) is engaged in terrorism against the people of the United States, and it has been the law since before any of us were ever born that non uniformed combatants have no rights whatsoever.
If you want to fight another country, put a uniform on, pick up a gun, and go fight them. That is the sole legal means of conducting acts against them. Engaging in "restricted warfare" like the Chinese call it, renders your agents bereft of all protections.
The Barbary Pirates got no quarter. We don't have to give any to these narcos either.
I'm not terribly comfortable with them droning a boat in foreign waters, but if the blockade is announced(I don't think it officially was) it is fair game.
It would also, absolutely, be fair game if a boat of foreigners in a foreign craft were rushing at high speed towards US waters away from a port of entry. US Coast Guard revenue cutters have had cannons for that purpose continually for hundreds of years. They don't have a right to enter US waters with contraband goods. They outfitted their boat to outrun Coast Guard (US or someone else's).
A blockade is an act of war. Does that require a declaration of war?
No, it requires declaring a blockade, then it would be on Venezuela to declare war or seek UN aid. If the UNSC approves the blockade, then Venezuela is on their own. If the UNSC does not approve, they can seek a resolution from the UN the General Assembly, which the US can veto. They are thus back to square one, and can make war and seek allies in a bilateral fashion.
They likely realize that would go poorly for them, and so they are doing as they are doing and complaining and nothing more.
I have zero issue with the US government blowing every unauthorized vessel out of the water. Start doing it on the border too. The people invading have made it clear how much contempt they have for my country and they intend to take it over
I agree that this is a violent action, but the unfortunate reality is that these are invaders who are killing us, and they should not be given the quarter that we would give any citizen. This is the right thing to do if we are to dissuade further efforts to literally (in some cases) conquer our homes and communities.
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