Reminds me of this car of old people who had a stuck accelerator. Had enough brains to call 911 and say they are out of control. Got to intersection at end of highway and hit and killed others. Not once in the 5min did it occur to the driver to turn the fucking engine off
Incidentally the last words recorded on the 911 call were "omg the road is ending. Prey! PREY!!"
Yeah, as I just said in my other comment, newer cars don't have keys, and I'm not sure keyless (and electric in this case) cars even let you turn it off mid-drive.
It's certainly possible that it might not let you turn the car off.
It won't let you turn it off in drive stick that bitch in neutral and it will. Car manufacturers design cars to be able to be turned off with a stuck accelerator, people just dont know about it and tend to panic.
Putting it in neutral is just a suggestion to the computer as well. If it locked up entirely, nothing helps in this sort of design. Go back to reliable cable control imo.
I just rented a brand new Mercedes over the 4th of July, and it wouldn't let you put it in neutral while you were driving. The stupid gear selector was on a stalk like the turn signal, and I accidentally tried a few times.
drive-by-wire, lock/unlock-by-wire too. Teslas that lose power (say, due to a battery fire) cannot be opened with the regular door handles. You have to rip out the upholstery to find a hidden release
The made-in-Germany Tesla Model Y owners could not find the emergency release as shown in the video and the car's manual. They shared pictures showing the door pocket liner without the access hatch to the emergency release system. To be sure, the Tesla Model Y owner's manual warns that "not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors."
Just had someone in the store rush out, then come back half an hour later.
Phone was at 1% and if it died they couldnt unlock their tesla so they had to run to charge the phone in the car.
This is incorrect. For the front doors there's an easily accessible manual door latch inches from the electric one. For the back you have to peel up some rubber from the door pocket - stupid design but there's no upholstery being ripped up
Honestly, uncontrollably fast is probably the way to go. If he had any ability to steer, he should have kept it on the motorway and let the batteries die. At top speed, the car won't drive for more than 10-20 minutes tops.
Even if you can't steer and can't drive, it doesn't mean you can't try to keep fighting for control over the car. Pilots have been dying this way for decades.
Incidentally the last words recorded on the 911 call were "omg the road is ending. Prey! PREY!!"
I like this spelling of the transcript that implies not they were religious, but that they were some kind of post-apocalyptic highway marauders who had just stumbled upon fresh meat.
Not once in the 5min did it occur to the driver to turn the fucking engine off
Sorry, the car knows better than you. Also, these new fake-Mustang EVs don't even have a keyhole in the door, let alone the ignition.
Show of hands: Without looking it up (and I did for this), how many people know how to turn off a push-button car while it's moving, presuming the software allows you to do so?
Of those of you that do, how many of you are likely to remember that while your car is careening down a highway divider?
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
Incidentally the last words recorded on the 911 call were "omg the road is ending. Prey! PREY!!"
Wrong "pray", but can we get a link to that if you weren't makin' a funny?
Please enter the 7 digit code for emergency shutdown authorization. It's right there on page 116 of the owner's manual. No not the one in your glovebox, the one the dealership gave you to keep at home. 🙄 Didn't you memorize it?
My car actually has keyless autostart, but that is about as automated as it gets for it. No self driving/lane assist shit that takes control away from me.
Show of hands: Without looking it up (and I did for this), how many people know how to turn off a push-button car while it's moving, presuming the software allows you to do so?
Trick question, I wouldn't buy a push to start car without looking that up first to make sure I could stop it in an emergency.
I don't know how these computer-run cars work. Maybe he couldn't turn it off because the computer sensed the car was in motion and prevented it "for safety"
I haven't driven a newer car in a while, but not sure how it all interfaces. It almost certainly doesn't have a physical key, as cars seem to have moved away from that, and I'm not sure if you can turn off a new car while driving. There might be, ironically, fail-safes.
So, not sure if the driver panicked in the moment and also screwed up here, or if there was really really nothing he could do.
Either way, seems like a huge issue from the car, as not everyone can be expected to react quickly and rationally, and, cars clearly aren't supposed to do that.
Why didn't he turn off the engine?
Reminds me of this car of old people who had a stuck accelerator. Had enough brains to call 911 and say they are out of control. Got to intersection at end of highway and hit and killed others. Not once in the 5min did it occur to the driver to turn the fucking engine off
Incidentally the last words recorded on the 911 call were "omg the road is ending. Prey! PREY!!"
Maybe he was too dumb to think of that, but most EVs are fully drive-by-wire so I'm not discounting the possibility that he couldn't turn it off.
Yeah, as I just said in my other comment, newer cars don't have keys, and I'm not sure keyless (and electric in this case) cars even let you turn it off mid-drive.
It's certainly possible that it might not let you turn the car off.
It won't let you turn it off in drive stick that bitch in neutral and it will. Car manufacturers design cars to be able to be turned off with a stuck accelerator, people just dont know about it and tend to panic.
Are EV drive modes mechanically linked typically?
Putting it in neutral is just a suggestion to the computer as well. If it locked up entirely, nothing helps in this sort of design. Go back to reliable cable control imo.
I just rented a brand new Mercedes over the 4th of July, and it wouldn't let you put it in neutral while you were driving. The stupid gear selector was on a stalk like the turn signal, and I accidentally tried a few times.
Omg that's horrifying.
drive-by-wire, lock/unlock-by-wire too. Teslas that lose power (say, due to a battery fire) cannot be opened with the regular door handles. You have to rip out the upholstery to find a hidden release
Okay, now that is also horrifying. Holy shit.
What? That's ridiculous, no one would do something like that, so I went and looked it up. Here's the Model 3's manual release lever, right next to the window switches, on the door.
I went ahead and checked a different model, the Tesla Y and.... oh.... [Oh dear: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-y-got-a-more-straightforward-emergency-door-release-still-not-good-enough-201427.html
At least they changed it.... https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-changed-the-model-y-s-emergency-door-release-again-tough-luck-if-you-need-to-use-it-219273.html
Emphasis added, holy shit.
Just had someone in the store rush out, then come back half an hour later. Phone was at 1% and if it died they couldnt unlock their tesla so they had to run to charge the phone in the car.
This is incorrect. For the front doors there's an easily accessible manual door latch inches from the electric one. For the back you have to peel up some rubber from the door pocket - stupid design but there's no upholstery being ripped up
Honestly, uncontrollably fast is probably the way to go. If he had any ability to steer, he should have kept it on the motorway and let the batteries die. At top speed, the car won't drive for more than 10-20 minutes tops.
Even if you can't steer and can't drive, it doesn't mean you can't try to keep fighting for control over the car. Pilots have been dying this way for decades.
I like this spelling of the transcript that implies not they were religious, but that they were some kind of post-apocalyptic highway marauders who had just stumbled upon fresh meat.
Exactly my thought.
Sorry, the car knows better than you. Also, these new fake-Mustang EVs don't even have a keyhole in the door, let alone the ignition.
Show of hands: Without looking it up (and I did for this), how many people know how to turn off a push-button car while it's moving, presuming the software allows you to do so?
Of those of you that do, how many of you are likely to remember that while your car is careening down a highway divider?
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
Wrong "pray", but can we get a link to that if you weren't makin' a funny?
I AM THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR
Please enter the 7 digit code for emergency shutdown authorization. It's right there on page 116 of the owner's manual. No not the one in your glovebox, the one the dealership gave you to keep at home. 🙄 Didn't you memorize it?
Bingo. Thankfully, I only drive cars with a manual transmission, so worst case, I can just throw it in neutral and let the engine blow.
If you're in the stick-shift club with me I can presume you're also driving a car with a key in the switch, not that that means as much these days.
My car actually has keyless autostart, but that is about as automated as it gets for it. No self driving/lane assist shit that takes control away from me.
Lol im a retard
Anyway, im mixing up 2 stories. I found the "pray" people but they arent the old people in runaway car for several minutes before accident.
https://youtu.be/Bx2diBKXN_Y?si=0cOxCXhxFNJbZqd6
And they were back in the day so it was key ignition
Trick question, I wouldn't buy a push to start car without looking that up first to make sure I could stop it in an emergency.
It's not a trick question. You gave a conditional answer that you would know if you owned one.
It's not 100% certain, but we can reckon from this that you don't own one, and that you don't know because you haven't needed to learn.
I don't know how these computer-run cars work. Maybe he couldn't turn it off because the computer sensed the car was in motion and prevented it "for safety"
Any other heavy machinery has an e-stop, Why not an electric car.
Because they're poorly thought out subsidy soaking gimmicks?
I haven't driven a newer car in a while, but not sure how it all interfaces. It almost certainly doesn't have a physical key, as cars seem to have moved away from that, and I'm not sure if you can turn off a new car while driving. There might be, ironically, fail-safes.
So, not sure if the driver panicked in the moment and also screwed up here, or if there was really really nothing he could do.
Either way, seems like a huge issue from the car, as not everyone can be expected to react quickly and rationally, and, cars clearly aren't supposed to do that.