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Carl Benjamin and Co. at the Lotus Eaters begrudgingly address the issue of Israeli influence over Trump, and by extension the US. Title: "Trump Can't Serve Two Masters" (youtu.be)
posted 320 days ago by PatrikStar24 320 days ago by PatrikStar24 +77 / -0
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– multiformat 36 points 320 days ago +36 / -0

Easy, Trump doesn't serve two masters, he serves one: Israel.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 21 points 320 days ago +21 / -0

They really held out as long as they could didn't they? It's becoming the norm that no matter if it's grifting or genuine activism, you can't build an audience without talking about this.

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– undecidedmask2 27 points 320 days ago +27 / -0

It’s the litmus test of our generation.

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– PatrikStar24 [S] 29 points 320 days ago +29 / -0

A litmus test that Razörfist in particular is failing in spectacular fashion, deflecting any and all issues to the Chinese whenever the chosen ones are brought up.

Having spent far too long watching him, I could write an entire thesis paper on why he is no longer to be trusted (even besides the Israel thing).

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– Kienan 11 points 320 days ago +11 / -0

Although I'd stopped watching him before this, so I can't swear to this, I think Matt Christiansen has also failed. Which is too bad, I was one of his earliest viewers (not the very first or anything, but there right when he first started gaining traction.) He practically won't talk about it, is very tame when he does, he kicked off Blonde (complicated and somewhat valid reasons, but still pretty suspect), and hasn't made a single scripted video on Israel or anything related to it. He always generally covered news stories, so there's some cover, but there were still plenty of stories popping up around the issue, none of which he's touched. Don't think he even made a shortform Epstein video, although he talked about it on his live show. Sadly he seems intent on destroying his brand, for a number of reasons, not all of them Israel related.

Razor has definitely failed harder and more actively, but it's still sad to see Matt fail.

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– MargarineMongoose 6 points 319 days ago +6 / -0

I think Matt is genuinely afraid to touch the topic. You don't run a show with Blonde as your co-host for that long without learning what the score is. He's thinking about how hard it is going to be to pay his bills if he gets nuked off the internet entirely, which is pretty much what happens if you touch that topic with a ten foot pole.

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– Kienan 4 points 319 days ago +4 / -0

I've also heard - and I hate to go there - that his wife is a Jew. I'm mixed...it seems weird that Nazi Blonde would have been her friend, but Matt's addressing the the issue seemed all but a confirmation too. It was just a weird response.

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– SR388-SAX 3 points 319 days ago +3 / -0

The Christiansen's new format is just terrible. He can't carry a show by himself and none of his co-hosts outside of Frank are listenable. But yeah, he has essentially zero interest in talking about anything Israel/Gaza related.

His short form video essays are still very good, but usually kind of irrelevant.

I've spent my "entertainment/support" budget on him and Blonde for the last several years (I figure big support to one small channel is probably worth a lot more than spreading it around to a bunch of different channels) and this year I just couldn't justify it any more.

He made a bad call with how he handled Blonde. From what I gathered from both sides of the argument, she treated the relationship as more friendly and would have been willing to take $0 if he'd asked for it to make up for losing the Tenet money, but he treated it as a business partnership and refused to negotiate.

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– Kienan 3 points 319 days ago +3 / -0

The Christiansen's new format is just terrible.

I did a bit of research, and after my comment, and he's not as bad as I'd feared, but yeah, it's still not good.

...he has essentially zero interest in talking about anything Israel/Gaza related.

Yeah, he talks Epstein/Trump, but doesn't bring in the obvious link, and I'm not sure he's ever talked Gaza.

His short form video essays are still very good, but usually kind of irrelevant.

Yeah, I've already tuned out. They're just not that important, as you say. Again, I was one of his earliest fans, so I don't say that gleefully. They're just sideline stuff.

He made a bad call with how he handled Blonde.

Absolutely. I sided with him more than Blonde, but he still fucked it up royally. I don't think it was ideological primarily, and more just general autism, but he still shot himself in the foot on the whole issue. He'd been generously overpaying her for years and, if he'd handled it better, could have talked her down and paid her less. Instead he freaked out over and actual injury, and accused her of various bullshit. It was just an insane story. Sure, she's a bit of a hypochondriac, but she'd suffered and actual injury, and you don't know how bad that is until you actually get it checked out. He was an absolute autist, and accused her of faking the whole thing. Which she didn't. He also didn't take the whole Woman thing into account, and triggered her feminism. It was just a mess. Again, I actually generally took his side on the whole thing, but that doesn't mean he didn't also totally fuck up.

From what I gathered from both sides of the argument, she treated the relationship as more friendly and would have been willing to take $0 if he'd asked for it to make up for losing the Tenet money, but he treated it as a business partnership and refused to negotiate.

I think she wanted money too, for sure, but yeah, he just insulted her big time and hurt her woman feelings. And I'm not even taking shots here, he just didn't handle it well. He insulted her for no reason, or at least the wrong reasons, and destroyed the relationship. And, again, this is coming from someone who sided more with him than her. But he fucked up big time, and his viewership numbers have shown that after the fact.

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– deleted 10 points 319 days ago +10 / -0
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– ParadigmShift2070 9 points 319 days ago +9 / -0

Shabostian goyka

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– undecidedmask2 9 points 319 days ago +9 / -0

You don’t even need to turn into mechahitler or something like that, just don’t deflect literally everything and act like Israel is blameless.

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– Niemo 4 points 319 days ago +4 / -0

When you go down the Rabbi hole you'll realize how right uncle Adolf was about things.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 319 days ago +2 / -0

"It's not the Communists guys! Ignore the funding, subversion, and direct attacks on the US! Just post nose! (((China))) is a puppet state of Israel!"

Raz0rfist is pointing out actual Communist subversion, while you are deflecting Communism and Socialism towards Israel.

This is mostly because the "White Socialism has never been tried" brigade doesn't want to implicate Communism and Socialism as a problem, since it's the means to power they need.

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– PatrikStar24 [S] 16 points 319 days ago +16 / -0

Israel gets priority in this discussion on account of their naked influence over my government. Antisemitism laws that ban true Christianity if applied fully, laws explicitly forbidding boycotts of their country, the overt manipulation of the Iran situation, having Trump by the balls with the Epstein files (who himself had ties to Mossad), and just today a post of a good chunk of Congressional Republicans demonstrating their true loyalties.

The Chinese will pay in due time for their exploitation of the greed of my country's leaders (from mayors to presidents to everyone in between), but I cannot and will not ignore the circumcised elephant in the room.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 319 days ago +2 / -0

The Chinese won't pay for shit because literally no one will properly address the level of subversion, particularly when real communism only happens when something something jew.

The Chinese: steal more money from the US, gets more money from the US, is more protected by American finance and capital, is a genuine military threat, is colonizing the rest of the planet, has more control over American universities, has more control over American press, has more control over American politicians, and has major subversion in every part of science, technology, economics, and politics.

Israel is a fucking side show. Their subversion is slightly deeper than Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

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– Kienan 7 points 319 days ago +7 / -0

Israel is a fucking side show. Their subversion is slightly deeper than Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

The only subversion more important than Israel's is the USA's.

Sure, China, Qatar (LMAO), and Saudi Arabia are pulling some strings. But the impact of the Israel is still greater...but the major issue is that the alleged most powerful country, America, has so many strings to pull. That's the real issue. But, no, Israel isn't a sideshow. The answer still largely comes form within, but don't downplay Israel, or try to act like these others are more important. China didn't drag us into forever wars, for starters. China didn't destroy our last few decades...at least outside of the US leaders not stopping them from providing cheap slave labor.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 319 days ago +1 / -0

American Subversion is a real problem, and as can be seen from US AID, it's subversion is at the behest of Fabian Socialism, rather than American interests.

China is absolutely happy to drag us into forever wars because it weakens us. Israel is dumb enough to start wars, but China will always help keep Israel's enemies afloat, while depleting our own munitions.

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– Kienan 8 points 319 days ago +8 / -0

Weak, weak take.

Also, go ahead and point me toward like one single person who criticizes Israel but loves China.

It's all so tiresome.

It's deflection. I don't see the alleged NatSocs - whatever you think of thjem - defending China. Most of the "the Jews" and "Israel" people also don't like China, so it's wild to try to act like they're just doing the CCP's bidding or whatever.

Look, I'll be right there with you, if someone is running cover for China and trying to shift blame to Israel. That person is a dumbass, agreed. But I don't really see that. I see people blaming Israel and also not liking China. Which seems pretty inline with, well, reality. Israel has an undue influence in US politics, and China is also not healthy for the US.

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– PatrikStar24 [S] 5 points 319 days ago +5 / -0

Most of the "the Jews" and "Israel" people also don't like China, so it's wild to try to act like they're just doing the CCP's bidding or whatever.

Trust me, I'd rather be posting anything else, and am probably as tired of posting it as you are of seeing it. Unfortunately for me (but fortunate in other ways), the last 6 months of Trump's term have been a red suppository as opposed to a red pill. Just when you think you've seen enough, something happens to reveal more of the rotten underbelly (as was the case with the Iran strikes). The next 3 and a half years will prove painfully eventful, that's for sure.

Israel has an undue influence in US politics, and China is also not healthy for the US.

Thank you! Finally, a voice of reason.

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– Kienan 2 points 319 days ago +2 / -0

Thank you! Finally, a voice of reason.

Thanks. I try. I keep it real. I give my take, and I wouldn't give my take if I at least didn't think I was correct.

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 3 points 319 days ago +3 / -0

Also, go ahead and point me toward like one single person who criticizes Israel but loves China.

Israel's defenders would characterize me that way. They'd be wrong, I don't love China, but I consider a lot of what's said about them to be bullshit. For example, I'm of the opinion that Tibet is a shithole and its people are far better off now than they were before the CCP. But I also believe Canada should expel all Chinese nationals and redistribute their property to White Canadians.

China does have its own claws in the US, mostly in Dem power centers, but I consider them small fry in comparison to AIPAC and American Zionists.

Weaker civnats and lolberts have their little rituals they expect you to engage with, and constantly going on about China is one of them. If you don't, they just say you're pro-China. It's a stone's throw away from libs and their accusations of racism, but you can't expect much better from them.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 319 days ago +1 / -0

go ahead and point me toward like one single person who criticizes Israel but loves China.

All of BreadTube. Leftists have things in common with one another. Same reason so many have an unflinching support for Palestine.

I wasn't exaggerating when I said that stormfag society is defending Socialism. They are, they do, and they believe only White People can do it right, as has been screamed at me on ConPro by the same users that wander over here and are too fucking cowardly to say it outside their hugbox. These are the same people who literally tell me that China is a puppet state of Israel because a Soviet, Jewish, Communist visited Mao in 1951.

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– Kienan 9 points 319 days ago +9 / -0

All of BreadTube.

I don't respect or care about leftists. I said PEOPLE.

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– deleted 5 points 319 days ago +5 / -0
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– Gizortnik 2 points 319 days ago +2 / -0

Raz0rfist makes few dedicated videos as it is, and the point is that China is an actual Communist threat to the US, and Israel is blamed for everything because of Judeo-Bolshevism on from the White Socialist brigade.

I would like to see more videos about Qatar's influence in the US, but that is not why I think someone is a Qatari shill, or "shouldn't be trusted". Hell, nobody talks about the fact that Canada exports tens of thousands of political activists, organizers, and logisticians into the US in every election. That is not evidence that people are failing, or that they are untrustworthy, or that they're not real conservatives.

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– Kienan 7 points 319 days ago +7 / -0

and the point is that China is an actual Communist threat to the US...

As someone who hates communism as much or more than the rest of you, miss me with that. Communism is a threat, but it's also not an invasive virus in the way the hardcore anticommunists push it. Just like "antisemitism" isn't some universal and existential brainworm. The solution to communism is to have functioning society that hasn't fucked its own people over. That's it. A functional society doesn't fall to communism, because like other extremist ideologies, communism preys on the failures of the system.

...Israel is blamed for everything because of Judeo-Bolshevism on from the White Socialist brigade.

Oh...miss me with that too. Israel gets blamed for shit because they're knee deep in all of this.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 319 days ago +1 / -0

Lmao communism is literally responsible for all the subversion we see today

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– Gizortnik 1 point 319 days ago +1 / -0

I'm sorry but Communism and Socialism is wildly subversive because we've only just come out of a Socialist Century. Communism can be defeated by having a healthy society, and a highly moral and strong local community society that is anti-collectivist outside of the religion, nation, and family. However, Socialists have destroyed Liberalism as early as the late 1880's, and the world has been divided between rival Socialist ideologies: National, Revolutionary, and Fabian all the way up until this very moment.

Communism doesn't simply prey on the failures, it causes failures. The May Day celebration happened because the Communists attacked police with dynamite, got a bunch of Socialists shot, and used their deaths as a weapon to push for violent revolution. The US has been actively funding and supporting Communist and Socialist regimes for over 100 years due to massive subversion and infiltration. Most Communist states would have already died without massive western Fabian Socialist support coming from the parasitization of our societies.

Israel ought to be blamed for what they do, rather than who they are, but that's rarely the case here.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 1 point 319 days ago +1 / -0

Razorfist? who the fuck is that?

"noticing" is a universal action, not some specific podcast retard doing/not doing something. its any and everyone noticing or not noticing.

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– subbookkeeper 18 points 320 days ago +18 / -0

Long time Lotus eaters subscriber here.

They are not going to say based things because they would be raided and arrested immediately after. They are well aware that they are under active surveillance, all of the hosts frequently make reference to the based things they say off camera but aren't allowed to say on camera. They are very open that they are not saying what they truly believe. Given the circumstances in the UK I think that's the best strategic option.

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– Kienan 14 points 320 days ago +14 / -0

They are not going to say based things because they would be raided and arrested immediately after.

Heck, it's part of the fun. Just like with YouTube censorship, you push the line, and hint hint nudge nudge what you're trying to say.

I'm completely against censorship, and completely for free speech, but there is a certain enjoyment of the sport. Lotus Eaters will be as based as they feel they can be, but no more. Because, as you say, the State will crush them if they step out of line...and the State would love for them to step out of line.

Heck, it's amazing they're as based as they are. They're surely on multiple lists,m and in the crosshairs of Daddy Government for sure.

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– SarcasticRidley 6 points 319 days ago +6 / -0

I'm amazed they haven't been shut down yet.

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– deleted 2 points 319 days ago +2 / -0
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– Kienan 5 points 319 days ago +5 / -0

I think a couple of them has been treated at the very least suspiciously by their government. But yeah, I recall one of them being detained on bullshit cause when trying to reenter the country.

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– subbookkeeper 1 point 319 days ago +1 / -0

Callum I think, A few months after he left IIRC.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 319 days ago +5 / -0

They say based things all the time. Arch is just lying and pretending that they won't criticize Israel, Trump, or the relationship between the two.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 319 days ago +6 / -0

I love the fact that you think this is the first time that anyone on the LotusEaters criticized Israel.

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– MartinRigggs 10 points 319 days ago +10 / -0

If only the problem were just a single man being compromised by a foreign cabal, we’d have a decent shot at fixing the problem peacefully. Sadly the reality of our situation has proven for decades to be system-wide, not just presidents, or some of Congress, or a few leadership positions in our federal agencies, or a few judges. The system is compromised far beyond fixing at a voting booth, and it doesn’t stop at government subversion. Every one of the most powerful mega conglomerate corporations is in the hands of the same cabal that controls our government, thanks to BlackRock’s relationship with the federal reserve, giving them an ability to buy up so much stock that they’ve become the leading influence over policy in all of those conglomerates whether they have a kosher CEO or not, so they’ve basically monopolized our entire economy. The problems we are facing are so big that it’s hard to fathom what we are up against, and the entire western world is facing the same set of problems.

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– Niemo 2 points 319 days ago +2 / -0

Did you know Peter thiels husband worked as VP of black rock?

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– MartinRigggs 3 points 318 days ago +3 / -0

Did you know that BlackRock has a controlling interest in Vanguard, Berkshire Hathaway, State Street bank and the other top investment banks, so when you see the same exact top 5 investment banks control every major corporation out there, it’s really just BlackRock? Not only did they figure out how to monopolize the economy without being considered a monopoly because they don’t technically control the Fortune 500 corporations, but they do own enough stock in all of them that those CEO’s are forced to do whatever BlackRock wants or else BlackRock dumps their shares and tanks the target corporation overnight. BlackRock also created a secondary layer of noticing-protection so people don’t realize they’re a monopoly through their control of the other major investment banks via the same means they control the Fortune 500. Crafty demons

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– MartinRigggs 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

Sounds about right….I'm assuming he’s a jew also since all of the executive level positions at BlackRock are filled by jews.

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– ketobikerdude 6 points 319 days ago +6 / -0

Zognald doing synagogue of satan things.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 319 days ago +4 / -0

Weird that he's getting boo'd at a WWE event.

Worst take.

Most wrestling fans are Progressives at best. It's actually fucking wild.

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– Kienan 5 points 319 days ago +5 / -0

Most wrestling fans are Progressives at best. It's actually fucking wild.

Strange how he generally gets positive reactions, then...

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– CrazyPope 3 points 319 days ago +3 / -0

At wrestling? You sure you don't mean UFC? When was the last time he was at WWE? Don't think he has since entering politics. Idk why Gizortnik got down voted,he's right about wrestling fans.

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– Kienan 2 points 319 days ago +2 / -0

At wrestling? You sure you don't mean UFC?

Uhm...it's...that's definitely a possibility. LOL.

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