They really held out as long as they could didn't they? It's becoming the norm that no matter if it's grifting or genuine activism, you can't build an audience without talking about this.
A litmus test that Razörfist in particular is failing in spectacular fashion, deflecting any and all issues to the Chinese whenever the chosen ones are brought up.
Having spent far too long watching him, I could write an entire thesis paper on why he is no longer to be trusted (even besides the Israel thing).
Although I'd stopped watching him before this, so I can't swear to this, I think Matt Christiansen has also failed. Which is too bad, I was one of his earliest viewers (not the very first or anything, but there right when he first started gaining traction.) He practically won't talk about it, is very tame when he does, he kicked off Blonde (complicated and somewhat valid reasons, but still pretty suspect), and hasn't made a single scripted video on Israel or anything related to it. He always generally covered news stories, so there's some cover, but there were still plenty of stories popping up around the issue, none of which he's touched. Don't think he even made a shortform Epstein video, although he talked about it on his live show. Sadly he seems intent on destroying his brand, for a number of reasons, not all of them Israel related.
Razor has definitely failed harder and more actively, but it's still sad to see Matt fail.
I think Matt is genuinely afraid to touch the topic. You don't run a show with Blonde as your co-host for that long without learning what the score is. He's thinking about how hard it is going to be to pay his bills if he gets nuked off the internet entirely, which is pretty much what happens if you touch that topic with a ten foot pole.
The Christiansen's new format is just terrible. He can't carry a show by himself and none of his co-hosts outside of Frank are listenable. But yeah, he has essentially zero interest in talking about anything Israel/Gaza related.
His short form video essays are still very good, but usually kind of irrelevant.
I've spent my "entertainment/support" budget on him and Blonde for the last several years (I figure big support to one small channel is probably worth a lot more than spreading it around to a bunch of different channels) and this year I just couldn't justify it any more.
He made a bad call with how he handled Blonde. From what I gathered from both sides of the argument, she treated the relationship as more friendly and would have been willing to take $0 if he'd asked for it to make up for losing the Tenet money, but he treated it as a business partnership and refused to negotiate.
"It's not the Communists guys! Ignore the funding, subversion, and direct attacks on the US! Just post nose! (((China))) is a puppet state of Israel!"
Raz0rfist is pointing out actual Communist subversion, while you are deflecting Communism and Socialism towards Israel.
This is mostly because the "White Socialism has never been tried" brigade doesn't want to implicate Communism and Socialism as a problem, since it's the means to power they need.
Israel gets priority in this discussion on account of their naked influence over my government. Antisemitism laws that ban true Christianity if applied fully, laws explicitly forbidding boycotts of their country, the overt manipulation of the Iran situation, having Trump by the balls with the Epstein files (who himself had ties to Mossad), and just today a post of a good chunk of Congressional Republicans demonstrating their true loyalties.
The Chinese will pay in due time for their exploitation of the greed of my country's leaders (from mayors to presidents to everyone in between), but I cannot and will not ignore the circumcised elephant in the room.
Also, go ahead and point me toward like one single person who criticizes Israel but loves China.
It's all so tiresome.
It's deflection. I don't see the alleged NatSocs - whatever you think of thjem - defending China. Most of the "the Jews" and "Israel" people also don't like China, so it's wild to try to act like they're just doing the CCP's bidding or whatever.
Look, I'll be right there with you, if someone is running cover for China and trying to shift blame to Israel. That person is a dumbass, agreed. But I don't really see that. I see people blaming Israel and also not liking China. Which seems pretty inline with, well, reality. Israel has an undue influence in US politics, and China is also not healthy for the US.
They are not going to say based things because they would be raided and arrested immediately after. They are well aware that they are under active surveillance, all of the hosts frequently make reference to the based things they say off camera but aren't allowed to say on camera. They are very open that they are not saying what they truly believe. Given the circumstances in the UK I think that's the best strategic option.
They are not going to say based things because they would be raided and arrested immediately after.
Heck, it's part of the fun. Just like with YouTube censorship, you push the line, and hint hint nudge nudge what you're trying to say.
I'm completely against censorship, and completely for free speech, but there is a certain enjoyment of the sport. Lotus Eaters will be as based as they feel they can be, but no more. Because, as you say, the State will crush them if they step out of line...and the State would love for them to step out of line.
Heck, it's amazing they're as based as they are. They're surely on multiple lists,m and in the crosshairs of Daddy Government for sure.
They really held out as long as they could didn't they? It's becoming the norm that no matter if it's grifting or genuine activism, you can't build an audience without talking about this.
It’s the litmus test of our generation.
A litmus test that Razörfist in particular is failing in spectacular fashion, deflecting any and all issues to the Chinese whenever the chosen ones are brought up.
Having spent far too long watching him, I could write an entire thesis paper on why he is no longer to be trusted (even besides the Israel thing).
Although I'd stopped watching him before this, so I can't swear to this, I think Matt Christiansen has also failed. Which is too bad, I was one of his earliest viewers (not the very first or anything, but there right when he first started gaining traction.) He practically won't talk about it, is very tame when he does, he kicked off Blonde (complicated and somewhat valid reasons, but still pretty suspect), and hasn't made a single scripted video on Israel or anything related to it. He always generally covered news stories, so there's some cover, but there were still plenty of stories popping up around the issue, none of which he's touched. Don't think he even made a shortform Epstein video, although he talked about it on his live show. Sadly he seems intent on destroying his brand, for a number of reasons, not all of them Israel related.
Razor has definitely failed harder and more actively, but it's still sad to see Matt fail.
I think Matt is genuinely afraid to touch the topic. You don't run a show with Blonde as your co-host for that long without learning what the score is. He's thinking about how hard it is going to be to pay his bills if he gets nuked off the internet entirely, which is pretty much what happens if you touch that topic with a ten foot pole.
The Christiansen's new format is just terrible. He can't carry a show by himself and none of his co-hosts outside of Frank are listenable. But yeah, he has essentially zero interest in talking about anything Israel/Gaza related.
His short form video essays are still very good, but usually kind of irrelevant.
I've spent my "entertainment/support" budget on him and Blonde for the last several years (I figure big support to one small channel is probably worth a lot more than spreading it around to a bunch of different channels) and this year I just couldn't justify it any more.
He made a bad call with how he handled Blonde. From what I gathered from both sides of the argument, she treated the relationship as more friendly and would have been willing to take $0 if he'd asked for it to make up for losing the Tenet money, but he treated it as a business partnership and refused to negotiate.
Shabostian goyka
You don’t even need to turn into mechahitler or something like that, just don’t deflect literally everything and act like Israel is blameless.
When you go down the Rabbi hole you'll realize how right uncle Adolf was about things.
"It's not the Communists guys! Ignore the funding, subversion, and direct attacks on the US! Just post nose! (((China))) is a puppet state of Israel!"
Raz0rfist is pointing out actual Communist subversion, while you are deflecting Communism and Socialism towards Israel.
This is mostly because the "White Socialism has never been tried" brigade doesn't want to implicate Communism and Socialism as a problem, since it's the means to power they need.
Israel gets priority in this discussion on account of their naked influence over my government. Antisemitism laws that ban true Christianity if applied fully, laws explicitly forbidding boycotts of their country, the overt manipulation of the Iran situation, having Trump by the balls with the Epstein files (who himself had ties to Mossad), and just today a post of a good chunk of Congressional Republicans demonstrating their true loyalties.
The Chinese will pay in due time for their exploitation of the greed of my country's leaders (from mayors to presidents to everyone in between), but I cannot and will not ignore the circumcised elephant in the room.
Weak, weak take.
Also, go ahead and point me toward like one single person who criticizes Israel but loves China.
It's all so tiresome.
It's deflection. I don't see the alleged NatSocs - whatever you think of thjem - defending China. Most of the "the Jews" and "Israel" people also don't like China, so it's wild to try to act like they're just doing the CCP's bidding or whatever.
Look, I'll be right there with you, if someone is running cover for China and trying to shift blame to Israel. That person is a dumbass, agreed. But I don't really see that. I see people blaming Israel and also not liking China. Which seems pretty inline with, well, reality. Israel has an undue influence in US politics, and China is also not healthy for the US.
Razorfist? who the fuck is that?
"noticing" is a universal action, not some specific podcast retard doing/not doing something. its any and everyone noticing or not noticing.
Long time Lotus eaters subscriber here.
They are not going to say based things because they would be raided and arrested immediately after. They are well aware that they are under active surveillance, all of the hosts frequently make reference to the based things they say off camera but aren't allowed to say on camera. They are very open that they are not saying what they truly believe. Given the circumstances in the UK I think that's the best strategic option.
Heck, it's part of the fun. Just like with YouTube censorship, you push the line, and hint hint nudge nudge what you're trying to say.
I'm completely against censorship, and completely for free speech, but there is a certain enjoyment of the sport. Lotus Eaters will be as based as they feel they can be, but no more. Because, as you say, the State will crush them if they step out of line...and the State would love for them to step out of line.
Heck, it's amazing they're as based as they are. They're surely on multiple lists,m and in the crosshairs of Daddy Government for sure.
I'm amazed they haven't been shut down yet.
They say based things all the time. Arch is just lying and pretending that they won't criticize Israel, Trump, or the relationship between the two.
I love the fact that you think this is the first time that anyone on the LotusEaters criticized Israel.