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The new Fantastic Four movie (that is actually in line with the MCU) dropped 80% from opening weekend to the second weekend. Don't think it's the end of the MCU, but the drop is interesting to me (archive.is)
posted 303 days ago by redman012 303 days ago by redman012 +66 / -0
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– 5Cats 6 points 303 days ago +6 / -0

Good villains are required to have good heroes.
Batman & Spiderman have villains as memorable as they themselves are, popular too! Superman's villains are bloody boring.

FF fought Namor (The Sub Mariner) in #4 of the comic, and Doctor Doom in #5. Galactus in #48. All in all their enemies ranged from really interesting to downright generic.

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– Maskurbator 7 points 302 days ago +7 / -0

Batman takes the cake. Comic book people can all rattle off some Spiderman villains, but even normies can name half a dozen Batman villains. They are all memorable. Joker, Riddler, two face, penguin, cat woman, poison ivy, Mr freeze, and those are the ones anyone can name. His B line is still super memorable, scare crow, bane, Clayface, Harley Quinn, killer croc, raz aghul.

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– NiggersAreTards 7 points 303 days ago +7 / -0

Brainiac is a great villain but they are too incompetent to make him look good in the movies. They would fuck him up like they fucked up Doomsday.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 9 points 302 days ago +9 / -0

My favourite Brainiac is always going to be the DCAU version where he was formerly the Kryptonian central computer that did a runner when the planet was going to explode and didn't tell anyone. Smallville kind of did something similar when James Marsters/Spike from Buffy played the character so it wasn't too bad, but I can never get behind the other versions that are some random data collector or something else. Tying him to much to Superman makes him a far more intimate threat rather than "Generic world destroyed of the week #3781".

As does Doomsday at times. In some versions he's a CADMUS altered clone of Superman, in another he's an Apokolips altered clone of Superman, while in others he's something else entirely and still just as near unkillable that becomes immune to whatever defeated/killed him last time.

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– Maskurbator 4 points 302 days ago +4 / -0

Doomsday in the Snyder movies was horrible. But have you seen the series with Tyler Hoechin? (Probably spelled that wrong). That version is good.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 6 points 303 days ago +6 / -0

Batman and Spider-Man are generally considered to have the two best rogues galleries in superhero fiction, with maybe The Flash running a distant second. They aren't exactly a fair standard. Superman does have iconic villains—there's Lex Luthor, obviously, and he's so popular and iconic that he even shows up referentially in tons of other heroes' comics, but there's also Bizarro and Zod for two very different takes on the "evil Superman," there's Brainiac... even Darkseid is arguably a "Superman villain," although not as exclusively so.

Maybe you just don't like Superman? That's perfectly fine, but it's not like he's got nothing going on. And he's still among the most popular superheroes, so I'm honestly not even sure why you took the sideswipe at him. Saying "Superheroes need good villains, but one of the most recognized superheroes in the world has bad villains" isn't exactly a compelling argument.

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– AgnosticTemplar 6 points 303 days ago +6 / -0

Most superheroes have a lot of non-iconic villains. Everyone knows the Green Goblin and Doc Ock, fewer know of... White Rabbit? Huh, there was a whole gang of animal-themed villains called the Menagerie that were duds. For every Vulture or Rhino, there was a Walrus or Squid that never became popular.

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– AcidOverlord 7 points 303 days ago +7 / -0

My favorite is when a throwaway villain has such aura or memes that they becomes popular out of nowhere. See also: The Condiment King.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 6 points 302 days ago +6 / -0

It wasn't until much later when I was doing a [re]-watch of the DCAU I saw that episode of Batman TAS which introduced him. Talk about glowing up.

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– 8theBritish 3 points 302 days ago +3 / -0

Or Kite Man.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 5 points 302 days ago +5 / -0

Hell yeah!

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– Devidose 5 points 301 days ago +5 / -0

For a minor villain he has such a tragic backstory considering what The Joker did to him.

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– Vivs3rdSock 7 points 303 days ago +7 / -0

Don't worry, they can still do Black Cat horribly and race swap Felicia just like has happened in the current Ultimate Spider-Man so that's she's actually black. Or at least half black since her dad is still the original white guy.

Oh and because that comic is set 10-20 or so years ahead with an aged up Peter it's his son who is hooking up with Felicia now.

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– yamez 3 points 302 days ago +3 / -0

yeah, I saw that and sort of just shrugged. Gwen Stacy is Mysterio, for fucks sake. At least Peter actually has a functioning relationship with MJ. But His son is Venom by way of some sort of Stark nanobot suit. I'm a little let down by this one but also happy to see that MJ and Peter bang and have a relationship.

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– DemolitionsPanda 3 points 303 days ago +3 / -0

Stiltman did nothing wrong!

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