Why hotel workers? That's not "hard" work. Long hours maybe, but I know there's tons of Americans who would jump at the chance if the pay was right. I don't agree with this for farm work either, but there's an argument to be made that seasonal out in the blistering heat manual labor is going to be a tough sell with Americans no matter what it pays. In construction there's anecdotes from contractors claiming even when they raise the pay they have a hard time getting people to come and work a full schedule. Hotel cleaning and maintenance? Blatant fucking scam if they're claiming nobody will take those jobs.
but there's an argument to be made that seasonal out in the blistering heat manual labor is going to be a tough sell with Americans no matter what it pays.
You're telling me that you wouldn't do that job for a single summer if it paid you seven figures? There's always a price point at which it become financially irresponsible to turn down the job. People just don't want to face how fake and propped up the economy has become over the last several generations.
If we didn’t have 20+ million fake jobs created for women with bachelors psych degrees whose entire existence is based on a government mandate… then maybe just maybe women would pick fruit for 20 bucks an hour.
I make way the hell more than that at a desk job and would be willing to pick fruit for 20 bucks an hour on weekends if it were anywhere near me. That is relatively stress free.
Back as a kid, there was a farm where you could pay to pick a bushel of fruit (though obviously you got to keep it, but it wasn't much, if any, cheaper than a grocery store). Place still always had people out there paying to pick their own fruit, because people enjoyed it.
It should be plausible for a 16 year old to spend part of the summer/fall picking apples on a farm and make more money than a laptop job worker would make. The same goes for guys running machines in factories.
It’s all a scam. Even if we were to pretend there’s a scarcity it’s entirely because demand isn’t willing to match supply. Contractors lie through their teeth about 70% of everything, not just “labor shortages”, they will make a wrong order and try to charge the payor twice and extra on labor for their mistakes. No woman is going to pick crops all day for 15 dollars an hour, that leaves men gullible enough to do it and the competition for men that can do that labor is egregiously high. Any actual laborer worth their weight is already pulling 25-30 in other fields. These industries want labor that hasn’t marched inflation in over 40 years and cry shortages when they can’t get it. This is no different than the cheap Chinese knockoffs being mass imported, the only difference is location of labor.
Yeah, why would a President and billionaire owner of hotels, resorts and golf clubs want to give a pass to menial laborers in that sector? Gosh... I just don't know.
I'm not even mad, I'll even get over it when trade deals are finalized, promised money start flowing in, production plants get built, and more illegals get deported.
Give a pass? There's tons of people here willing to do that work. Does Trump hate Americans? Look if he felt sorry for the poor Mexicans ladies who settled down here to fluff pillows, he doesn't have to ICE them - just gradually start punishing the business owners who hired them. Eventually the jobs dry up and they self deport. This is all theoretical though since we're talking about a random tweet with no sources.
I don't speak for the guy, it's just my observation, when asked he says the same thing, he needs to take care of the farmers, and the almost always lump in hotel workers and says these are the jobs no American wants to do, we need these workers for tourism dollars. Which directly benefits him and his pals.
I said it in a post a few week ago, the rich wants cheap menial labor, the moment AI and robotic automation becomes good enough to replace these workers, politicians from both sides of the aisle will suddenly have no problem with mass deportation. Until then, the left resist, the right stalls to run down the clock.
At least require x number of American workers for y number of foreigners.
Farm work used to be done by teenagers, now there isn't as many kids. Farmers used to have the foresight to take care of that themselves if there were shortages even though back then they were poor and could barely afford them. Now anyone with land holdings is generally a millionaire if they include the land value in their net worth and they only have 1-3 kids.
At this point, unless it's a signed executive order, I ain't going to worry.
We've had so many of these claims only for someone like Tom Homan to go 'we aren't doing that' that it's better to wait for SOME KIND of writing on this.
dunno man.. flip flopping on illegals, only 4,000 illegals a day deported. and then most of the "big beautiful bill", which i didnt like already, has most of the stuff gutted from it aside from money for the wall.. and then no epstein list. and then dropping bombs on a sovereign nation. im still gonna be a doomer.
Why hotel workers? That's not "hard" work. Long hours maybe, but I know there's tons of Americans who would jump at the chance if the pay was right. I don't agree with this for farm work either, but there's an argument to be made that seasonal out in the blistering heat manual labor is going to be a tough sell with Americans no matter what it pays. In construction there's anecdotes from contractors claiming even when they raise the pay they have a hard time getting people to come and work a full schedule. Hotel cleaning and maintenance? Blatant fucking scam if they're claiming nobody will take those jobs.
You're telling me that you wouldn't do that job for a single summer if it paid you seven figures? There's always a price point at which it become financially irresponsible to turn down the job. People just don't want to face how fake and propped up the economy has become over the last several generations.
If we didn’t have 20+ million fake jobs created for women with bachelors psych degrees whose entire existence is based on a government mandate… then maybe just maybe women would pick fruit for 20 bucks an hour.
I make way the hell more than that at a desk job and would be willing to pick fruit for 20 bucks an hour on weekends if it were anywhere near me. That is relatively stress free.
Back as a kid, there was a farm where you could pay to pick a bushel of fruit (though obviously you got to keep it, but it wasn't much, if any, cheaper than a grocery store). Place still always had people out there paying to pick their own fruit, because people enjoyed it.
It should be plausible for a 16 year old to spend part of the summer/fall picking apples on a farm and make more money than a laptop job worker would make. The same goes for guys running machines in factories.
or they could just automate more of the job as should have been done 40 years ago, instead of relying on near-slave labour.
Uh, not sure any farm owners would be willing or able to pay $1,000,000... but I'd do it for about three fiddy.
It’s all a scam. Even if we were to pretend there’s a scarcity it’s entirely because demand isn’t willing to match supply. Contractors lie through their teeth about 70% of everything, not just “labor shortages”, they will make a wrong order and try to charge the payor twice and extra on labor for their mistakes. No woman is going to pick crops all day for 15 dollars an hour, that leaves men gullible enough to do it and the competition for men that can do that labor is egregiously high. Any actual laborer worth their weight is already pulling 25-30 in other fields. These industries want labor that hasn’t marched inflation in over 40 years and cry shortages when they can’t get it. This is no different than the cheap Chinese knockoffs being mass imported, the only difference is location of labor.
Yeah, why would a President and billionaire owner of hotels, resorts and golf clubs want to give a pass to menial laborers in that sector? Gosh... I just don't know.
I'm not even mad, I'll even get over it when trade deals are finalized, promised money start flowing in, production plants get built, and more illegals get deported.
Give a pass? There's tons of people here willing to do that work. Does Trump hate Americans? Look if he felt sorry for the poor Mexicans ladies who settled down here to fluff pillows, he doesn't have to ICE them - just gradually start punishing the business owners who hired them. Eventually the jobs dry up and they self deport. This is all theoretical though since we're talking about a random tweet with no sources.
I don't speak for the guy, it's just my observation, when asked he says the same thing, he needs to take care of the farmers, and the almost always lump in hotel workers and says these are the jobs no American wants to do, we need these workers for tourism dollars. Which directly benefits him and his pals.
I said it in a post a few week ago, the rich wants cheap menial labor, the moment AI and robotic automation becomes good enough to replace these workers, politicians from both sides of the aisle will suddenly have no problem with mass deportation. Until then, the left resist, the right stalls to run down the clock.
At least require x number of American workers for y number of foreigners.
Farm work used to be done by teenagers, now there isn't as many kids. Farmers used to have the foresight to take care of that themselves if there were shortages even though back then they were poor and could barely afford them. Now anyone with land holdings is generally a millionaire if they include the land value in their net worth and they only have 1-3 kids.
Maybe in the South, but my grandpa was from a farming community out of the south, and he had never seen a black person up close until WWII.
At this point, unless it's a signed executive order, I ain't going to worry.
We've had so many of these claims only for someone like Tom Homan to go 'we aren't doing that' that it's better to wait for SOME KIND of writing on this.
And people give me shit for giving up on the Republican party. Democrats with a speed limit are all they are. Traitors, the lot of them.
trump continues to make the absolute worst choices on staffing, he's got GPOe cheap labor Chamber of Commerce bought and paid for advisors in his ear.
dunno man.. flip flopping on illegals, only 4,000 illegals a day deported. and then most of the "big beautiful bill", which i didnt like already, has most of the stuff gutted from it aside from money for the wall.. and then no epstein list. and then dropping bombs on a sovereign nation. im still gonna be a doomer.
It make me wonder how many illegals work at Trump's hotels.
No flip flop, he always held this position, but says different shit depending on the audience.