age doesn't matter until it does
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And the second is WAY more common and being honest, natural.
Men's FEW benefits is that they can become more attractive as they are older by both material acquisition and staying in shape as both of those are very attractive to younger women in their 20s than men their same age.
On the flipside, women HAVE an expiration date (unless Asian, I've mistaken 40 year olds for 20, wtf is in their genes?!?) so if they haven't found a partner by a certain date, they're fucked so this 'dating younger' that old women try to pass off as 'natural' comes off as desperate.
Can confirm. Wife is ten years younger than me. I've been grey since my early 20s(electrical accident) and as far as I can tell any woman worth a damn finds grey hair attractive.
There is a reason why silver fox is a well known phrase.
Though I have used silver vixen before ONLY because that way on the fly to avoid the wrath of a woman I was working with who I accidentally got close to insulting.
TDLR it worked and she let me live lol
The bits of gray hair I have are changing back to my hair color, which I think is pretty awesome. I won't mind when I do get more gray hair, as that's just natural, but I take it as a positive sign that my hair is actually getting healthier.
Not gonna lie I've never heard of that happening. For my part I'm just glad my hairline is the same as when I was a kid, and that I've stayed in decent enough shape. The grey took over long enough ago that I've resigned myself to it. Haven't bothered dying it in a decade or more.
It happened to me several years ago. It seems to happen when there's a stress-related hormonal problem rather than age-related. (same thing can cause temporary hair thinning in young men)
Thinning not so much, I just got a lot of electricity thanks to someone else being a dumbass and retrying a breaker.
It does happen sometimes, for various reasons.
I think my gray was probably caused by nutritional issues or inflammation, could also be stress/hormonal as someone else mentioned, so addressing that seems to be reversing graying. I was always pretty careful, but I've almost completely cut out seed oils now, as well as American wheat (almost always fortified/enriched with fake vitamin B that can be hard to process), and I've also been experimenting with hydrogenized water, which I think helped clear up inflammation.
Intriguing. Not gonna lie I don't have the healthiest diet, I simply don't drink or smoke and I exercise plenty.
Im just happy im not bald, as vain as that is. Although there is nothing wrong with that. I had a friend who went bald at 16, no joke.
Im definitely turning grey but baldness can be associated with parathyroid as well so at least im not losing much hair. Just fingernails that are like dust and skin that feels like leather lmao. I always forget how weak my fingernails are, i constantly keep bending/snapping them all the time lmao. Ive knocked my toe nails off a few times now in the last year, about as many times in my entire life lmao.
I did start making alot of bone broths and eating those, and it did nothing to help my nails.
Asians get the same extreme self involvement as all women do in their thirties. Then they get the crazy as shit forties.
Men do also have a peak - it isn't at 35+ as Rollo Tomassi et al will tell you (and giving you damaging advice in the bargain). Well, technically, men have two peaks. One in their early to mid 20's when they're the most attractive to young women who all men find the most attractive and another in their mid to late 20's when they're the most attractive to women in general. While men don't have the problem of a finite amount of gametes that women have, they do face a decline in sperm quality in middle age which increases the prospect of autism in offspring (and autism WILL pretty much destroy your prospect of finding love as women instinctively select against such men) and men age too - they're not exempt from the laws of gravity or the effects of ageing, regardless of how much working out you do at the gym.
Statistically, men's ability to find someone also goes down with age and the 21 year old women are not selecting the 50-60 year old men unless they want to be a sugar daddy. That is a cope. The average age gap is 2-4 years in developed countries.
But in general, the idea that women only go for money falls apart when you see deadbeats becoming fathers. If it was about money, you would never see men on welfare getting any woman pregnant.
True if it's focused only on children but in general attractiveness men have a more forgiving drop off.
Also really 2-4 years gap? I swear I know more that have a 5-7 year gap.
That's the average from the statistics I have seen. And it is the case that the more developed a country is, the lower the age gaps are.
To be fair, that sounds like one of those instances that is massively skewed by a subset of the data. Less developed countries tend to have more child marriage, which massively throw off the stats, and are not indicative (necessarily) of age gaps among adult relationships.
Well yeah doesn't that just go to show then that the average is quite small?
Most relationships I see, particularly in long term stages, are within 2-4 year age differences.
My peak has definitely been in my 30s
As I've grown older I've noticed I have much less interest in women.
Whenever I get close to a woman I get absolutely bombarded by texts, phone calls, constant plans, etc. I will have them text me hundreds of times a day, no exaggeration, until I absolutely fucking hate them. What do they do that they not only need constant communication and stimulation but they are able to do that? Do they work? How easy are their lives?
This isn't a humble brag, I fucking hate it. Then women wonder why the man just disappear?
It's usually old women doing this too. I have been out with women in their early twenties and they are fun, interesting, can actually hold a conversation but if she's old and in her thirties she's a mental case. The number of old women that are legitimate mental cases is staggering. It's a massive epidemic that no one is addressing.
Another thing- there's a lot of talk about 'the male loneliness epidemic' but it's nothing compared to the sorry, miserable lives of old, single women, desperately seeking anyone to affirm them and hopefully someone to financially support them because whenever I go out with an old woman (thirty and above) they lead wretched lives. It's bleak and even being around them depresses the shit out of you.
Old women will cling to you because its a survival instinct. They are old, used up and need a provider fast. Those young ones wont nother responding because they dont need to.
One of the biggest complaints old women have about men dating younger women is wHaT cAn YoU tAlK tO hEr AbOuT??? but old women are noticeably stupider than old women. If you talk to a woman in her twenties and she brings up tik tok or Barbie, that's fine- she's a young woman but it's the oldies that seem to be more into childish things. They are reading kids books and listening to music made for eight year olds.
And still obsessing over the relationships they demand all the middle school-aged wizards should be in from a book they read in their childhood (or worse, college years).
They choose one guy that usually clutzy or soft but still good looking- a John Cusack type- and they stick with that ideal for decades. It's mental.
Imagine a man focusing on some girl they were into when they were sixteen and trying to project that one women for the next forty years.
It used to be the case that older women would tie down a man with wealth as a retirement plan. Now they have the state and are still in jobs that will fund them and therefore don't need no man. I personally know of many older women doing exactly this.
You are ignoring the reality that women are human and human words should not be trusted because we are beings of ego.
Humans are dishonest negotiators and spend most of their time rationalizing good sounding copes instead of being honest and addressing issues to get what they actually want.
“She wasn’t fired, she quit” energy. Most say they are happy, but they always are miserable (outside of the masks they wear in public). There natural face would have a slight frown to it and they will have wrinkles and other signs that hint to there misery.
Most women are treating themselves as appreciating assets. So they are holding out until their value increases enough to get the man they want.
Mostly because they were taught that we are equal, so men must want the same thing as women want. And women see men me value frequently appreciating as he gets more experience, wealth, etc.
Then when they are too deep into it, they cling to sunken cost fallacies and just endlessly double down.
When in actuality men want women who are lovable, not employable.
Same is true with most men who quit dating. They are just one blow job away from getting married a lot of the time.
Are these women in their late 30s?
Yes
I've met women in their late twenties that look forties. It's bad.
Are you early 20s or something because it sounds like you're calling women in their 30s old, which I wouldn't consider them old.
An old woman is 50 and above imo.
Women age much faster than men. Not just physically, but emotionally. By the age of thirty a lot of women are shot out. Their faces are either doughy or look like one of those dried apple grannies and they have that vacant, empty look of their lives not turning at all like they had hoped and there's no going back.
It's mostly emotional aging, which is like the speed of light for women. It happens around age 29, often right on the week of her birthday. Women change faster than you would think.
I'm not in my twenties, I'm old but women my age are like great grandparents. It's several things- the road they travel on and never having consequences until they do and then they all hit at once, biology, the programming they got all their lives that they will be the exemption...
It's actually really sad but bring it up and try to help and you'll get attacked.
One thing a lot of people miss is one of the reasons age gap relationships are rare is men’s lack of interest in dating younger women.
Sure, younger women are hotter. But then you have to actually date and talk to her. And most older men cannot stand it to the point they do not bother. Especially since sex matters a lot less as you age. All you need to do is date a 18-20 year old girl a bit and you will quickly end up agitated and frustrated by her immaturity and how she disturbs your peace.
So most age gap relationships do not last and are more leaning on the casual side. And they are also not counted in this data foe women hide it or do not count it because of society taboos.
There are ALOT of young women with a daddy kink. But the amount of good men interested in them is quite low. Most interested in them are trashy incels who have zero experience in women, so they have zero clue how to date them and instead rely solely on leading with money.
They are the type that subscribe to a onlyfans and simp endlessly for women as if they are goddesses. Even after they get married, his wife still does not fuck him and he needs to keep depending on porn and onlyfans.
They always do crazy overanalysisescthat pretend women are hyper logical machines doing calculus level logic to determine who to fuck or date. When an old dude goes up to her, makes her feel relaxed and laugh, then uses his confidence and charisma to sleep with her.
Inexperienced men will pretend she is not turned on because she obviously is doing some high level cost benefit analysis (so she can only be attracted to supposed high level men when women sleep with trash and love it all the time). But the reality is he is just coping.
Men of value do not simp, instead she simps for him. It is not necessarily the dude with money or looks. She will fuck an old fat and ugly guy like he is a Chad in the right situation.
This comment is wildly incorrect.
Yeah thats the narrative the media has been parroting for the last decade. And I used to believe it too.
And perhaps its partly true, but lets blame autism on old sperm, bad vaccines, and not the thousands of contaminants we have poisoned our environment with lmao.
I find it interesting though.
My ancestors definitely fall into the latter. Most of them didnt marry or start having familys until they were mid 30's or 40's.
I often wonder if older dads can produce mutations that are considered beneficial, as well as faulty genes as well.
Hard to say.
Something I never understood, is the need to have tons of children with multiple women and then not give any fucks about the lives you bring forth. I couldnt even fucking imagine.
Supposedly soy promotes estrogen, so I'd suggest that a high soy diet makes Asian men small and effeminate, while their women are exceptionally feminine. Comparatively the frozen north with staples like red meat and dairy, produce real life giants of men, while also creating women like Helga, who can bench press a cow while milking it.
You forgot the image of a degenerate adult of some kind (a tranny, an enbee, a furry, a drag queen, an old man that looks like Biden, or any combination thereof) leering at, suggestively touching, and/or copiously drooling over an actual child, and the soyjack says "MAPs are a legitimate sexuality!"
Leftists only demonize sexual attraction to women during their most fertile years. You can drool over a 35+ year old or a child, but don’t you dare lust after a woman capable of delivering a large family of 3+ children. That’s a proper death cult!
Pure Satanic Inversion. There are generally 3 age classes that an adult man could be attracted to. 1. Pre pubescent children. 2. As young as possible while still post-pubescent women. 3. Post Wall women. The only correct and natural one is #2. 1 and 3 are either degenerate, unnatural, or both. But look which ones the Left are trying to normalize and which they want to make illegal. As always, their goals are to make what is good into evil and what is evil into good.
The calling people like Leo Dicaprio pedophilic even among normies because he dates women who are like 22 is a really disturbing trend.
Its the inevitable end of "everything we find gross in a relationship is pedos."
They learned that that word is magical, it instantly wins and makes your opponent look really bad. If they argue against you in any way, people won't listen and they will look worse. Its literally the repeat of every other term these days. Nazi, racist, sexist, etc. It gets used liberally, becomes common among normies, and then people gradually become resistant to caring since they'll be called it no matter what.
And in the case of pedos, that literally helps the actual pedos of the world operate. Because pedophilia isn't a made up social crime, but a legitimate evil. But people will stop jumping as high when they hear the word over time, and it'll be blood on the hands of those who threw the term at everything they disliked. From drawings to "young adult" women.
Already seeing that from used up millennial bitches that have hit the wall. They have no options left but bad ones, so nobody should have options.
“Old whores mad; film at 11.”
Any man who "enjoys" older women is just a loser. All signs point to it. He doesnt enjoy them, they are all he can get.