The nature of the conservative right is, more or less, to remain in place. To the left, the right appears to grow further and further away, becoming, in their eyes "far right", when the reality is that it is the left that is constantly moving further left, and therefore the right only appears to be in an "extreme" position relative to the position of the left. An extreme only appears extreme to the opposite extreme. Thus, from the "far right" the far left looks insane, and from the "far left" the far right, likewise, looks insane. The key difference between the two is that the right has barely moved, whereas the left continues to trend ever further leftward, so that, to the left, any position right of left appears, as they gain distance from it, more and more extreme.
You are correct, but I do think in recent years the Right has begun to move further right, at least in part.
We wouldn't have quite so much anti-gay, anti-race, heck anti-Jew beliefs popping up outside of fringe forums if they weren't.
This is almost certainly a reaction to the Left finally reaching a terminal point of extremism itself, and thereby causing stones that had settled into place to begin rolling again, but it has begun to move.
I'd say it's just moving back where it belongs after being dragged left by the mainstream media for a while. If you tried to explain shit like Drag Queen Story Hour to a the average Joe 20 years ago and he actually believed you, he would react with extreme disgust. That is normal.
That's still moving Right. The fact that the Right itself was moved Left is a problem, but its absolutely the case that it was moved and not simply a static spot that only changed relatively.
Average Joe right winger 20 years ago still believed we could live in harmony with the niggers and be Americans together. That same guy probably wants them lynched today.
What appears to be growing extremism on the right is actually only the right reorienting itself to its original position after having ceded so much ground to the left. As you said, it's a reaction to the ever increasing extremism of the left. The right's mistake, which I think people are now realizing, was in ever attempting to compromise with the left. Because of the insatiable nature of the left, compromise and fence straddling are simply not sustainable. As in the case of gay marriage, we've learned that when you give a leftist an inch, they will invariably try to take a mile. Comparatively speaking, the right, having fixed beliefs, is by nature static, whereas the left, having no fixed beliefs, must remain ever in motion. In consequence, the left can never be satisfied, and so compromise is useless. The left derives pleasure from the process of the implementation of ever changing ideas, of which there can be no end, whereas the right derives satisfaction from the result of carrying fixed ideas to their logical conclusions.
only the right reorienting itself to its original position after having ceded so much ground to the left
The timeline is long enough that both this is true and for many people that "original position" was never in their lifetime so its fair to say it is a huge shift to them as well.
having fixed beliefs, is by nature static
This is something true in theory, but, like communism, manifests completely differently in reality. We can see just in this very forum that the Right is fractured among many different beliefs and even more so "what do we do with" type beliefs.
Whether that's pragmatic "we do what we need to do walk the path" beliefs, or genuinely breaking from the Right of old, we can hardly find two guys who agree on everything.
The Left doesn't have this problem because, as you said, they have no beliefs so they can just mind meld together, whereas the Right has to compromise together to stay a mass big enough to matter. In better times, we would be fighting among each other about whose belief is better but at the moment we have to bundle up to fight the horde that is the Left.
"Don't let people die in medical poverty, please, except if they are Trump or MAGA, or if they don't think trans women are women, or if they don't take the covid jab, or if they dare think for themselves and reject what the media are telling us, or if they are white straight men, or if they don't support mutilating children, or if ..."
“Moral centrists” - like he’s advocating for an ideology that is immoral. They just want a might makes right ideology which is the very thing they claim to be against.
Once again highlighting the inherent dishonesty of the left by framing their gay race communism as 'kinda left of center' while screeching histrionics that boomercons are 'literal fascists'.
The 'far left' would also be against mass immigration, ironically. The workers of a country would have to unite and consolidate their power base before being able to move against the establishment. This would be organized on a national basis.
The nature of the conservative right is, more or less, to remain in place. To the left, the right appears to grow further and further away, becoming, in their eyes "far right", when the reality is that it is the left that is constantly moving further left, and therefore the right only appears to be in an "extreme" position relative to the position of the left. An extreme only appears extreme to the opposite extreme. Thus, from the "far right" the far left looks insane, and from the "far left" the far right, likewise, looks insane. The key difference between the two is that the right has barely moved, whereas the left continues to trend ever further leftward, so that, to the left, any position right of left appears, as they gain distance from it, more and more extreme.
You are correct, but I do think in recent years the Right has begun to move further right, at least in part.
We wouldn't have quite so much anti-gay, anti-race, heck anti-Jew beliefs popping up outside of fringe forums if they weren't.
This is almost certainly a reaction to the Left finally reaching a terminal point of extremism itself, and thereby causing stones that had settled into place to begin rolling again, but it has begun to move.
I'd say it's just moving back where it belongs after being dragged left by the mainstream media for a while. If you tried to explain shit like Drag Queen Story Hour to a the average Joe 20 years ago and he actually believed you, he would react with extreme disgust. That is normal.
That's still moving Right. The fact that the Right itself was moved Left is a problem, but its absolutely the case that it was moved and not simply a static spot that only changed relatively.
Average Joe right winger 20 years ago still believed we could live in harmony with the niggers and be Americans together. That same guy probably wants them lynched today.
What appears to be growing extremism on the right is actually only the right reorienting itself to its original position after having ceded so much ground to the left. As you said, it's a reaction to the ever increasing extremism of the left. The right's mistake, which I think people are now realizing, was in ever attempting to compromise with the left. Because of the insatiable nature of the left, compromise and fence straddling are simply not sustainable. As in the case of gay marriage, we've learned that when you give a leftist an inch, they will invariably try to take a mile. Comparatively speaking, the right, having fixed beliefs, is by nature static, whereas the left, having no fixed beliefs, must remain ever in motion. In consequence, the left can never be satisfied, and so compromise is useless. The left derives pleasure from the process of the implementation of ever changing ideas, of which there can be no end, whereas the right derives satisfaction from the result of carrying fixed ideas to their logical conclusions.
The timeline is long enough that both this is true and for many people that "original position" was never in their lifetime so its fair to say it is a huge shift to them as well.
This is something true in theory, but, like communism, manifests completely differently in reality. We can see just in this very forum that the Right is fractured among many different beliefs and even more so "what do we do with" type beliefs.
Whether that's pragmatic "we do what we need to do walk the path" beliefs, or genuinely breaking from the Right of old, we can hardly find two guys who agree on everything.
The Left doesn't have this problem because, as you said, they have no beliefs so they can just mind meld together, whereas the Right has to compromise together to stay a mass big enough to matter. In better times, we would be fighting among each other about whose belief is better but at the moment we have to bundle up to fight the horde that is the Left.
Very insightful. Good comment.
Always wondered how they got guys like Mitch McConnell as an extremist nationalist.
Anything is possible when you lie
A real far-right movement would be giving those people free helicopter rides
The world in his delusions sounds pretty nice.
"Don't let people die in medical poverty, please, except if they are Trump or MAGA, or if they don't think trans women are women, or if they don't take the covid jab, or if they dare think for themselves and reject what the media are telling us, or if they are white straight men, or if they don't support mutilating children, or if ..."
“Moral centrists” - like he’s advocating for an ideology that is immoral. They just want a might makes right ideology which is the very thing they claim to be against.
Once again highlighting the inherent dishonesty of the left by framing their gay race communism as 'kinda left of center' while screeching histrionics that boomercons are 'literal fascists'.
fascism is a revolutionary progressive ideology that literally cannot be right wing
Child sterilization
Why do they have Tim Allen as their profile pic?
It gives him more power.
Aurgh aurgh aurgh
The 'far left' would also be against mass immigration, ironically. The workers of a country would have to unite and consolidate their power base before being able to move against the establishment. This would be organized on a national basis.
The fascists were far left socialists who also liked seizing property