For those wondering if there are any viable alternatives, there is Brave and Vivaldi - both privacy focused browsers but use Chromium and therefore will have Manifest v2 end this year. Ladybird whom everyone is hoping will be a solution in the long term is currently in alpha and from my brief use of it, is certainly not anywhere near ready for daily driver use. In terms of a Firefox fork that is viable, I have seen a number of recommendations for Floorp being a Japanese fork and likely to be shielded from the SJW's but is several versions behind Firefox at the moment.
I'm the same. I use Vivaldi as my daily driver. The problem I have going forward is the removal of Manifest v2 that I use for a number of extensions that won't be integrated into any web browser, whether Vivaldi, Brave or any other browser.
Unless they don't update the Chromium aspect of their browser (unthinkable), they've only got until later this year. The extensions I use simply will not work on Manifest v3.
Out of curiosity what sort of extensions are you using that are going to make their loss a deal breaker? I've only ever bothered with adblock extensions so I've been having a largely default browser experience for years now and had zero complaints. What have I been missing out on?
Google's on the war path with uBlockOrigin due to their advertising revenue. There's going to be a uBlock Lite version to mitigate the Chromium overhaul, but outlook is somewhat pessimistic to say the least.
LibRedirect is the main one I use to redirect to random privacy-oriented front-ends and avoid registration walls. You'd think Chromium based privacy focused browsers would include support for that but nope.
Unfortunately stuff does still get through pihole with mostly default ish settings. Like Amazon has a lot of sponsored stuff that is Amazon content so pihole doesn't block it, but its sponsored so ublock origin does.
There's many but people are wary because now attention is being put onto the forks, a number of them have made it clear what their political alignments are.
Technically speaking, I think most (if not all) of what Librewolf and Waterfox do is configuration changes as far as privacy is concerned. These forks just have those changes defaulted.
You could get basically the exact same result by downloading the normal Firefox browser and using the Arkenfox configuration script (or any other configuration script you like) to "harden" your Firefox configuration settings.
The downside would be that for every new browser version release you'd have to double check your configs and maybe reapply the script after it gets updated to handle new "features" Mozilla throws in, while with a separate fork like Librewolf that team should, in theory, be configuring their browser updates to set those new configs automatically for you.
Really? That's odd, 'cuz I do find Waterfox to run a lot more stable than og Firefox.
I sometimes go on some random autistic data hoarding sprees and when I do, I open a couple hundred tabs at the same time (literally at the same time, using an ad-on). It depends on the site, but where Firefox would croak at about 300 tabs Waterfox would chug along with about 4000 (it would take about half an hour to load, but it wouldn't crash).
The operative part of what I said being as far as privacy, I believe their changes are mostly just configuration. There very well might be performance improvements (or hell, perhaps the performance gains are simply due to the altered configurations), but the privacy benefits are mostly just configuration changes that you can replicate on any Firefox build or fork.
There is. I don't know about currently, but several years ago when I tried it it was not very viable in terms of functionality. Though I am not very tech capable so it could be lack of additional set up was the issue.
For those wondering if there are any viable alternatives, there is Brave and Vivaldi - both privacy focused browsers but use Chromium and therefore will have Manifest v2 end this year. Ladybird whom everyone is hoping will be a solution in the long term is currently in alpha and from my brief use of it, is certainly not anywhere near ready for daily driver use. In terms of a Firefox fork that is viable, I have seen a number of recommendations for Floorp being a Japanese fork and likely to be shielded from the SJW's but is several versions behind Firefox at the moment.
Both are good, but I prefer Vivalid for it's customizability.
I'm the same. I use Vivaldi as my daily driver. The problem I have going forward is the removal of Manifest v2 that I use for a number of extensions that won't be integrated into any web browser, whether Vivaldi, Brave or any other browser.
didn't brave and vivaldi said they're going to try to keep manifest v2 for as long as possible?
Unless they don't update the Chromium aspect of their browser (unthinkable), they've only got until later this year. The extensions I use simply will not work on Manifest v3.
Out of curiosity what sort of extensions are you using that are going to make their loss a deal breaker? I've only ever bothered with adblock extensions so I've been having a largely default browser experience for years now and had zero complaints. What have I been missing out on?
i use a video download thing a lot, that would be annoying to lose for me
But still worth staying with brave imo
Google's on the war path with uBlockOrigin due to their advertising revenue. There's going to be a uBlock Lite version to mitigate the Chromium overhaul, but outlook is somewhat pessimistic to say the least.
LibRedirect is the main one I use to redirect to random privacy-oriented front-ends and avoid registration walls. You'd think Chromium based privacy focused browsers would include support for that but nope.
I should turn off all of my adblock extensions just to see what the web looks like behind my Pi-hole DNS.
I'm hoping that losing all of them doesn't change much when it happens.
Unfortunately stuff does still get through pihole with mostly default ish settings. Like Amazon has a lot of sponsored stuff that is Amazon content so pihole doesn't block it, but its sponsored so ublock origin does.
I tried Brave- not impressed. Kept freezing.
There's many but people are wary because now attention is being put onto the forks, a number of them have made it clear what their political alignments are.
I use Pale Moon. Dev is an asshat, but he's never had woke tendencies. He's just an arrogant prick lol
Technically speaking, I think most (if not all) of what Librewolf and Waterfox do is configuration changes as far as privacy is concerned. These forks just have those changes defaulted.
You could get basically the exact same result by downloading the normal Firefox browser and using the Arkenfox configuration script (or any other configuration script you like) to "harden" your Firefox configuration settings.
The downside would be that for every new browser version release you'd have to double check your configs and maybe reapply the script after it gets updated to handle new "features" Mozilla throws in, while with a separate fork like Librewolf that team should, in theory, be configuring their browser updates to set those new configs automatically for you.
Really? That's odd, 'cuz I do find Waterfox to run a lot more stable than og Firefox.
I sometimes go on some random autistic data hoarding sprees and when I do, I open a couple hundred tabs at the same time (literally at the same time, using an ad-on). It depends on the site, but where Firefox would croak at about 300 tabs Waterfox would chug along with about 4000 (it would take about half an hour to load, but it wouldn't crash).
The operative part of what I said being as far as privacy, I believe their changes are mostly just configuration. There very well might be performance improvements (or hell, perhaps the performance gains are simply due to the altered configurations), but the privacy benefits are mostly just configuration changes that you can replicate on any Firefox build or fork.
There is. I don't know about currently, but several years ago when I tried it it was not very viable in terms of functionality. Though I am not very tech capable so it could be lack of additional set up was the issue.
Yep. Been using it for quite some time. Been great other than when I had some weird profile corruption once that required a full reinstall of it.
I used to use Pale Moon but IIRC I had some weird site incompatibilities for a while and I ended up ditching it.
I'm still going to use Librewolf for my Fediverse/Kfarming shitposting, and there's nothing that poofter Rossman can do about it.
Wait, Rossman....