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Arizona State students told to remove pronouns from their bios or face receiving “Unsatisfactory” grades (media.scored.co)
posted 4 months ago by elleand202 4 months ago by elleand202 +124 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 41 points 4 months ago +42 / -1

If a simple executive order has this many effect, imagine what would have happened if Do Nothing Republicans had gotten off their ass just once and passed a law.

I know no one here likes Vivek, but credit where credit is due: he is the one who pointed out that a lot of this crap is not based on law, but on executive order, and that it thus can be revoked by executive order.

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– SoctaticMethod1 18 points 4 months ago +18 / -0

Careful as that can be a monkey paw wish.

Last time they did that you got the patriot act, at best they should only pass what Trump or RFK Jr in terms of health says to pass.

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– SparkMandrill83 11 points 4 months ago +11 / -0

Republicans are lame ducks when it comes to benefiting Americans. For Israel, they'll move heaven and earth

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– AnAmishWithATude 10 points 4 months ago +10 / -0

It could be an effective political tactic too, the inverse of the "political football." That's this fake game both parties play where they claim they just need a majority to get anything done. Then when the finally get a majority they still don't seem to have enough votes to do more than a small gesture to their base while the other party fiercely resists, until the ball is back on their side. In this way nothing is ever really accomplished but they get votes on the promise of doing better next time.

The rule by fiat tactic works the opposite way. You force through impermanent change and get votes from your base realizing if you are voted out the other side will undo everything. I doubt Trump is doing this intentionally but it's always fascinating to see how he gets things accomplished in an entirely different way than politicians.

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– NullIsUndefined 6 points 4 months ago +6 / -0

Except you forgot the part where they pretend to do the things they promised and go "Oh I guess it wasn't enough, we need more money" and meanwhile all the money spent pretending to do those things was being send to their corrupt friends and themselves

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– Frogger69 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

Good analysis, except that both sides don't play political football, just the Republicans. Democrats are good at ramming their shit through, like Obama care. Republicans are the Washington Generals, a pretend opponent that always loses in the end. The only time they pass laws are when they are terrible like the Patriot Act.

That is why Trump is so popular, he actually is getting shit done.

Regarding the fiat tactic, the dems also do this all the time. Might as well play their game in our favor.

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– AgilePickle1123 4 points 4 months ago +4 / -0

Yep. Historically speaking, when you give the government an inch, they take a mile.

I imagine most citizens loved the Sedition Act to fight those “foreign spies”…when instead all they did was allow the government to openly circumvent the first amendment.

Granted it only happened over. 2 year period. But 2 years is a lot of time to prosecute and tuck away whistleblowers and political opponents. Not to mention it paved the way for the Patriot Act as well

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 3 points 4 months ago +3 / -0

The executive power exists whether it's used or not. This should be a wakeup call to liberals to show how Obama's advances in power going unchallenged was a bad idea. Not that they'll get the message.

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– NullIsUndefined -1 points 4 months ago +2 / -3

Really? Did Bush reverse a bunch of executive orders Clinton did and it led to the Patriot act? I didn't know that part

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– XBX_X 11 points 4 months ago +13 / -2

Do Nothing Republicans

Are there any other kinds? We need is a completely new party, with a clear mission and values, and leadership willing to kick out RINOs.

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– AntonioOfVenice -3 points 4 months ago +1 / -4

That's not going to work. Republican primary voters are voting these morons in. And I'm actually quite satisfied with how they're acting at the moment. Even long-time warmongers like Marco Rubio and that Waltz fellow are behaving themselves.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 6 points 4 months ago +6 / -0

It can also be blocked by the courts.

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– BetterNameUnfound 14 points 4 months ago +14 / -0

"You made your ruling. Let's see you enforce it."

Andrew Jackson, one of Donald Trump's heroes

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– NullIsUndefined 1 point 4 months ago +2 / -1

He said that? What a man

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– AntonioOfVenice 0 points 4 months ago +1 / -1

It would be much more difficult, because they'd have to make up a constitutional provision that mandates DEI, as oppposed to saying that the EO is not based on the law. And I don't think the Supreme Court that just threw out affirmative action 6-3 would do that. Some potential applications might - this might fall under a student's free speech - but not the thing as a whole.

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– bangbus 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

IMHO a student has an unfettered right to post xir asinine pronouns if the platform allows it. The proper remedy in this case is to remove the pronoun field codes from the platform. ASU is in the wrong here, not any student who fails to take action. This is what happens when you try to keep pace with the leftist insanity game, you eventually will be made to look like the idiot you are.

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