Vance delivered a speech on AI that is interesting
(twitter.com)
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (25)
sorted by:
Vance is a very capable speaker and he was very eloquent in this speech
I do have a problem with this speech and it is that it is very naive to think AI will only be used to augment worker productivity and that it won't automate away many jobs
Vance makes the bull case for AI by saying that the U.S. will encourage a pro AI regulatory framework with very few restrictions and will encourage the development of an AI without political bias.
The lack of regulation of AI is worrying because we all know the nature of large corporations. They want to save money and if mass automation helps them do that they certainly will.
Vance claims that workers will have a seat at the table but I am skeptical that AI will be used for the good of the American people
I have liked Vance in the Senate and his voting record there.
This overtly pro AI argument from him is concerning to me.
Americans voted for Trump to make our lives better. Ai automating most of our jobs away would be a catastrophe.
Vance certainly minimizes the risks of AI in this speech.
I still like Vance but this is the first thing that he has said that I really disagree with.
Vance is a smart guy and I don't buy that he is naive enough to say that it will not replace American jobs. Vance's ties to Peter Thiel certainly explains why he speaks this way about AI. Thiel's company Palantir is certainly investing into AI massively.
I just don't think it is a good idea to allow AI development to go unrestricted.
I have liked almost everything Trump has achieved in just three short weeks!
This pro AI cheerleading is the one thing that I fear that the Trump administration is making a grave mistake on!
Knowing the nature of large corporations and regulatory capture, this is preferable.
Minimal regulation: they save money with mass automation.
Strong regulation: they save money with mass automation and prevent anyone else from using AI to compete with them.
Exactly this. The genie's already out of the bottle. The best thing to do now is to try and ensure that at least AI development isn't kept under the sole control of a handful of corporate goons.
Also, we don't have to regulate development and access to AI itself in order to try and address some of the risks to workers and the economy. The burden of regulations could instead be applied to the large companies who might try and over-utilize it as a replacement for qualified employees.
But we do have to try to prevent people from using AI to intentionally suppress the opinions of others. There are no "mainstream" AI for normies right now being used to push right-populist rhetoric. ChatGPT does nothing but lie when you try to bring in the dissident side.
So far this is what I'm seeing. Where I work it made Indians useful, it's crazy how a guy who couldn't write a working code now can make something useful in multiple languages. On the other hand it does incentives hiring Indians in India.
Incentivizing outsourcing to India is only the tip of the iceberg if OpenAI or one of their competitors like Xai achieves AGI (Artificial General Intelligence)
It would result in mass automation and millions of people would be out of work immediately.
Consider that AI technology continues to improve year by year at an exponential pace not a linear pace
We could see ridiculously powerful AI technology emerge in the next 5-10 years
I fear it will be too late to stop something like AGI AFTER it has been created.
It is imperative we consider the risks when discussing AI
Vance in this speech massively downplayed the risks of AI and provided a techno-optimist vision.
I just find this disturbing personally
MAGA is a movement for putting Americans first not pushing AI so hard that Americans get replaced by automation.
I agree that Ai will move much faster and with greater consequence than regulation but I'm also convinced it is inevitable.
Simply put we have mass immigration, wars, inflation and all the identity politics that take most of the spotlight. AI is important enough to get attention but not enough as to create well thought out regulation. Everyone cares about using AI to impersonate people and that is about it.
AI is arguably the most important threat to individual liberty right now with only mass immigration matching it.
I also fear that this is inevitable.
The best time to properly regulate AI was years ago.
The next best time is now.
After AGI is achieved, it will be too late!
My worry is that AI is a game changer, and whoever doesn’t pursue it is going to lose to the people that do. It’s all well and good to say “American workers need to come first,” and they do, but you also can’t stick your head in the sand and ignore it. Regulating AI too much, assuming it’s not all hot air and does keep improving drastically, is akin to saying that the USSR is welcome to build nukes, but we won’t be doing it, thanks. Probably even worse.
Ask me how I know you don't have any idea wtf you're talking about
As Ender910 pointed out already, you can regulate employment and corporations without limiting the freedom of people to build what they imagine. "Regulating AI" is a greater threat to individual liberty than its existence.
I think our focus should be learning to work with what's there so we can get OUR guys into these new positions AI may create.
We can try to slow it down but more regulations will just make it easier for corporations to take over the AI space and we'll have a Google 3.0 with OpenAI all over again.
Peter Thiel, the co-founder of PayPal and Palantir, is Vance's mentor. Obviously, Elon was CEO of PayPal and is now working with Vance directly. Thiel held a fundraiser for Trump at his home, with Vance being Trump's handler -- I said what I said -- and it was all arranged on Trump's promise to support H1B's and cheap energy to fuel Silicon Valley's conquest of AI dominance. This was all mentioned last night on America First podcast [starting @2:55:00].
Also watch The Secret History of JD Vance.
This is a big red flag for me. They can spin it however they want but this is going to be abused.
The current goal is to make it illegal to train on anything but data you own, immediately guaranteeing Disney and Adobe become the defecto controllers of the market.
The biggest threat of AI is not on individual liberty, but on corporate liberty. Small businesses and individuals can directly compete with billion dollar companies for the first time in history and they will do anything they can to alter that. "Regulation" will be what creates the monster people are afraid of, and be used to destroy the possibilities for "individual liberty" that AI provides.
Most people disagree with me but this is why I'm always arguing we need to weaken IP law. When you have dusty old corporations that "own" so much imaginary property to the degree that it's more valuable than anything they produce today, they need to be broken. Copyright and patents should only be to granted to humans, licensable to others for some period of time that may extend briefly after their death, and then go to public domain. I believed this before the generative AI boom but it's even more important now.
STOP HITTING THE ENTER BUTTON ON YOUR FUCKNG KEYBOARD!!!!