It's literally the same argument. Even down to "who will pick the cotton"?
People forget that most of the pictures they see of slavery were taken in the 1830's & 1820's. Slave plantations had long since adopted the Cotton Gin, and had actually started using slave labor to repair and maintain the Gins. There were even slaves operating primitive tractors of the era.
Slavery was never an economic boon. It was a Luxury to create status signaling among the elite. The same plantations that used slave labor literally said that things like picking cotton were dishonorable and below the quality of life fit for non-blacks. In reality, it was a culture war that was designed to keep land in the hands of an aristocracy, while using mass migration as a clientele group (remember they were still counted in the census), and it kept entire industries from facing competition due to the low prices that mass scale industrial farming could produce, and the slaves were heavily regulated themselves injecting the government into every aspect of life. All while also using the fear of a slave rebellion to promote more authoritarian control.
You would be stunned to find how many people think blacks couldn't own property before 1964. I actually had to show someone the famous picture of Malcolm X with his M1 Carbine (after the NOI tried assassinating him at his house), and had to explain that it was his house that he owned.
Yes. Farming was profitable for individual people, but the southern aristocracy wanted to be the primary export of Cotton to Britain's Textile Mills (the heart of the industrial revolution at the time). As a result it centralized the economy and kept free southerners from actually sharing in profits and creating intergenerational wealth.
To summarize their arguments, it's an ironic ''if you deport all of these people, who will work all these manual jobs americans don't want to do''. They paint immigrants in a way that they just provide and benefit the economy, while completely ignoring the fact that they also consume goods, services, welfare, housing, it's quite funny how these hippy libs living in some leftist big city probably complain about housing prices and the increasing homelessnes, but then simultaneously say you simply need 10 more million immigrants. The parallel increase of non white immigration and the decay of western countries, they will complain about how boomers had it so much better, how the standard of living continues reducing and then in the same breath talk about immigration as if it made everyone's lives better. These immigrants are so valuable that I don't see Mexico really complaining about them leaving in doves, nor have these immigrants proven to be such a blessing in their home countries.
This same argument is used by these retards in Europe, that we need immigrants because us natives don't want to work these low tier jobs that are meant to be temporary jobs for highschoolers and younger adults, but the European nanny states have unintentionally designed it so that you can abuse disability/unemployment benefits and essentially enjoy a minimum wage for doing nothing all day, so of course there is no incentive nor need for young people to fill in these jobs they normally used to decades ago, do you think the average white in the 1950s sitting home doing nothing all day because he didn't want to work while the government sent him money to do so? No, you do not need mohammad in London so that he can 'benefit the economy' by selling kebabs to other mohammads, they can go back to afganistan and do that there.
''Enjoy your food prices skyrocketing because jose and pedro were deported so there is no one there to work the fields in the hot Sun all day!'' is what you can read from numerous commenters in the video, and from that my fellow liberals I cannot help but think, why abolish slavery? Who's gonna pick the cotton then? Then the few very special cases propose ideas like ''maybe if you gave them citizenship they wouldn't be illegals'' well that is quite an amazing idea to reward trespassing like that, surely if I illegally enter Mexico they will capture me and... grant me citizenship because I am entitled to it, yes!
Or, better idea, we could use a non fiat currency that doesn't constantly get inflated, and then we wouldn't need to raise wages because our wealth wouldn't evaporate every year.
You expect your average leftist who hasn't a day of actual work under his belt to know this? They still think farming is like it was during the medieval times, now surely it is in shitholes like Africa and such, if even at that level, but us whites have innovated agriculture a lot, I don't need jose nor pedro when a combine can do 200 acres in a day.
Maybe if these globohomo corporations actually wanted to pay a decent wage and not slave wages to people who can’t go to the authorities because they came here illegally and they basically own, people would be willing to work them.
who can’t go to the authorities because they came here illegally and they basically own
The same dynamic is currently going on with temp workers(H-1B, H-2A, whatever temp work visas you have). Those guys can't upset mr sheckleberg because he will fire them and deport them with 0 recourse so of course they will accept slave conditions except now completely legal.
Kick illegals out and stop the temp. worker visa nonsense. Or any immigration outside outstanding individuals(pajeet code monkeys absolutely do NOT count).
Only if you start working out, get a major promotion, buy a sports car and her current boyfriend gets in an accident that prevents him from working. Only then will she be willing to settle (in her mind) for you.
The average leftist will tell you that the actual issue with housing are foreign investors, not millions of illegal joses or mohammads who don't care about the rent because they live with 9 other people.
Last time trump kicked out a bunch of Mexicans I got stuck supervising inner city urban people who don't do shit without complaining and act entitled to shit. Can we swap.
Same people in 1850:
Can the US economy survive without slaves?
It's literally the same argument. Even down to "who will pick the cotton"?
People forget that most of the pictures they see of slavery were taken in the 1830's & 1820's. Slave plantations had long since adopted the Cotton Gin, and had actually started using slave labor to repair and maintain the Gins. There were even slaves operating primitive tractors of the era.
Slavery was never an economic boon. It was a Luxury to create status signaling among the elite. The same plantations that used slave labor literally said that things like picking cotton were dishonorable and below the quality of life fit for non-blacks. In reality, it was a culture war that was designed to keep land in the hands of an aristocracy, while using mass migration as a clientele group (remember they were still counted in the census), and it kept entire industries from facing competition due to the low prices that mass scale industrial farming could produce, and the slaves were heavily regulated themselves injecting the government into every aspect of life. All while also using the fear of a slave rebellion to promote more authoritarian control.
Same people. Different century.
They’ll yap and yap and yap about “mUh 3/5ths cOmPrOmiSe” but they’ll never tell you which side wanted them to be counted and which side didn’t.
History is just a complete wash to them.
You would be stunned to find how many people think blacks couldn't own property before 1964. I actually had to show someone the famous picture of Malcolm X with his M1 Carbine (after the NOI tried assassinating him at his house), and had to explain that it was his house that he owned.
Slavery held back the south and only benefited slavers and that was only until the cotton gin
Yes. Farming was profitable for individual people, but the southern aristocracy wanted to be the primary export of Cotton to Britain's Textile Mills (the heart of the industrial revolution at the time). As a result it centralized the economy and kept free southerners from actually sharing in profits and creating intergenerational wealth.
Eventually Britain and France just went to India.
To summarize their arguments, it's an ironic ''if you deport all of these people, who will work all these manual jobs americans don't want to do''. They paint immigrants in a way that they just provide and benefit the economy, while completely ignoring the fact that they also consume goods, services, welfare, housing, it's quite funny how these hippy libs living in some leftist big city probably complain about housing prices and the increasing homelessnes, but then simultaneously say you simply need 10 more million immigrants. The parallel increase of non white immigration and the decay of western countries, they will complain about how boomers had it so much better, how the standard of living continues reducing and then in the same breath talk about immigration as if it made everyone's lives better. These immigrants are so valuable that I don't see Mexico really complaining about them leaving in doves, nor have these immigrants proven to be such a blessing in their home countries.
This same argument is used by these retards in Europe, that we need immigrants because us natives don't want to work these low tier jobs that are meant to be temporary jobs for highschoolers and younger adults, but the European nanny states have unintentionally designed it so that you can abuse disability/unemployment benefits and essentially enjoy a minimum wage for doing nothing all day, so of course there is no incentive nor need for young people to fill in these jobs they normally used to decades ago, do you think the average white in the 1950s sitting home doing nothing all day because he didn't want to work while the government sent him money to do so? No, you do not need mohammad in London so that he can 'benefit the economy' by selling kebabs to other mohammads, they can go back to afganistan and do that there.
''Enjoy your food prices skyrocketing because jose and pedro were deported so there is no one there to work the fields in the hot Sun all day!'' is what you can read from numerous commenters in the video, and from that my fellow liberals I cannot help but think, why abolish slavery? Who's gonna pick the cotton then? Then the few very special cases propose ideas like ''maybe if you gave them citizenship they wouldn't be illegals'' well that is quite an amazing idea to reward trespassing like that, surely if I illegally enter Mexico they will capture me and... grant me citizenship because I am entitled to it, yes!
We have technology. We don't need slaves.
Also, we could raise wages.
But OOOOO, how dare I demand good wages and anti-slavery. I'm such an evil rightist.
Or, better idea, we could use a non fiat currency that doesn't constantly get inflated, and then we wouldn't need to raise wages because our wealth wouldn't evaporate every year.
PREPOSTEROUS!
GOLD IS AN OBSOLETE CURRENCY! WHAT SHOULD WE DO NEXT, USE STEAM ENGINES YOU BEKNIGHTED FOOL?!!!
(This is literally a line of argumentation I was confronted with)
Hiss.
I'll take an invasion instead. I'm not raising any stinkin' wages...
GET OUT OF HERE MR. KOCH, WE DON'T TAKE KINDLY TO FAKE LIBERTARIANS 'ROUND THESE PARTS!
You expect your average leftist who hasn't a day of actual work under his belt to know this? They still think farming is like it was during the medieval times, now surely it is in shitholes like Africa and such, if even at that level, but us whites have innovated agriculture a lot, I don't need jose nor pedro when a combine can do 200 acres in a day.
Our food prices were already skyrocketing with illegals. And they were driving up the price of everything else.
The economy is already in the crapper thanks to Pedo Joe, so what diifference, at this point, will it make?
Maybe if these globohomo corporations actually wanted to pay a decent wage and not slave wages to people who can’t go to the authorities because they came here illegally and they basically own, people would be willing to work them.
They have a great setup now. Pay them slave wages and make the US taxpayer pay the rest via housing, health care, etc. to keep them alive
The same dynamic is currently going on with temp workers(H-1B, H-2A, whatever temp work visas you have). Those guys can't upset mr sheckleberg because he will fire them and deport them with 0 recourse so of course they will accept slave conditions except now completely legal.
Kick illegals out and stop the temp. worker visa nonsense. Or any immigration outside outstanding individuals(pajeet code monkeys absolutely do NOT count).
Yes.
Next question?
Will I ever win Rebecca back?
Only if you start working out, get a major promotion, buy a sports car and her current boyfriend gets in an accident that prevents him from working. Only then will she be willing to settle (in her mind) for you.
No, you faggots don't understand. I would pay double for my groceries to remove immigrants
Just think of what all these deportations will do to the housing market alone. The beginning of the burst
The average leftist will tell you that the actual issue with housing are foreign investors, not millions of illegal joses or mohammads who don't care about the rent because they live with 9 other people.
if it can't, it shouldn't.
Bukele actually deboonked this: https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1882229656163901667
Ship all the homeless drug addicts on the public teat out to the fields, problem solved.
Last time trump kicked out a bunch of Mexicans I got stuck supervising inner city urban people who don't do shit without complaining and act entitled to shit. Can we swap.
Alongside their children. And their children's children. And their children's children's children!