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Study finds link between fluoride and lower IQ in children. (archive.ph)
posted 4 months ago by Mpetey123 4 months ago by Mpetey123 +91 / -1
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– RoulerBleu 24 points 4 months ago +25 / -1

There is already an established causal link between fluoride and dental fluorosis. It's been known for decades. The majority of USA teenagers have dental fluorisis and nearly a quarter have permanent structural damage to their teeth because of it.

It used to be rare. Something changed. Something increasing children's exposure to fluoride. Djee I wonder if putting it in the water they drink as they grow... Nah. Keep poisoning the water.

The fuck are they waiting to stop poisoning people with fluoridated tapwater?

Who are the evil people pushing for this?

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– freedomlogic 12 points 4 months ago +12 / -0

And thats the fucked up part that people cant seem to understand, if a kid has dental fluorosis, its a sign they have already been poisoned with fluoride.

You know this issue just goes to show you how far the average person goes into researching what is put into their body. Making me think of a "mildlyinfuriating" post on reddit where someone showed a teflon pan where their parent was using a metal spatula to cook with it. Teflon flakes, thats nice.

Ill drink water with naturally occurring fluoride bound to minerals. I dont want anything to do with that industrial waste they dispose of through human filters.

But I still drink tap water anyway, but you wont catch me drinking what is the recommended amount something like 15 cups of water? Unless I have been sweating all day and even then its closer to a half gallon.

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– blyat56 4 points 4 months ago +4 / -0

Progressives. It's progressives pushing for it, same as always.

These people are the same people who publish papers fantasizing about how great it would be to dose all the water with estrogen to make the men less violent.

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– MargarineMongoose 14 points 4 months ago +14 / -0

Wow, it's almost as if our government is intent on poisoning us.

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– Grumman 13 points 4 months ago +15 / -2

This is a metastudy based on Chinese studies regarding their high natural levels of fluoride - much higher than is used for artificially fluoridated water. Like most things the dose makes the poison, and you cannot assume that just because excessive consumption of salt is bad for your health that the healthiest amount is zero.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 6 points 4 months ago +7 / -1

Another problem is that naturally occurring fluoride tends to be in remote mountain areas where everyone is going to be dumber from poverty and cultural isolation.

There are many counties in the US that do not have fluoride and they're right next to counties that do, so you could easily study those locations. But that won't get the answer you want.

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– Breechimon704 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

Which is kinda the opposite of the problem we have over in the States.

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– Agenda47 5 points 4 months ago +5 / -0

Why are Chinese high in flouride?

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– Grumman 4 points 4 months ago +4 / -0

Because of some combination of fluoride naturally leeching into groundwater from the surrounding rock and pollution from industrial processes. I believe it's more the former than the latter, but don't know for sure.

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– Hugs 4 points 4 months ago +4 / -0

No idea. I would've thought chromium, iodine, and sodium would make more sense.

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– Theacefospades 1 point 4 months ago +1 / -0

That's funny

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– SaltyJollyRoger 1 point 4 months ago +1 / -0

Technically there's nothing to prove excessive salt consumption is bad for you, but there's lots of studies that correlate it because the stuff that's bad has a ton of salt in it to disguise it's true nature.

The bottom line is that fluorosis is correlated with the lower IQs.

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– Grumman 1 point 4 months ago +1 / -0

Excessive salt consumption is bad for you. Even if you want to argue about whether the overdevelopment of heart muscle would still cause cardiac arrest without the plaque buildup, drawing fluids out of the tissue into the blood via osmotic pressure both disrupts the proper operation of said tissue and can result in intracranial bleeding due to high blood pressure.

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– BetterNameUnfound 8 points 4 months ago +8 / -0

Now do toothpaste.

I almost never brush my teeth. I just stay on top of what minerals bone is made of, and take those every day.

The last time I was at the dentist, he said I had some of the strongest teeth he'd ever seen.

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– ParadigmShift2070 7 points 4 months ago +7 / -0

sure if you don't eat carbs you don't have to brush your teeth as often, but imagine the smell

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– freedomlogic 11 points 4 months ago +11 / -0

Yum decomposing flesh and matter with some likely tooth decay.

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– gomera 1 point 4 months ago +1 / -0

To be honest, if you rinse your mouth, it doesn't smell. I brush because I like the taste.

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– Agenda47 6 points 4 months ago +6 / -0

Remember when Listerine put out some ads where they pointed out that "according to research" gargling listerine is more effective at preventing gum disease than brushing? They were harassed by the ADA and forced to take down the ads, but they were right. Brushing is sometimes needed, but flossing and rinsing are more important. Gum health is the most important concern wrt dental health. Your teeth are generally going to be fine as long as your aren't regularly consuming sugar. In that case you can chew Xylitol gum (Icebreakers or Trident) which has an anti-bacterial effect. If you are worried about gum disease a waterpik is also recommended. Most people with healthy diets don't have to worry about caries.

Disclaimer: Do keep brushing your teeth. This is not medical advice. Ask your dentist, etc etc.

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– voidposter 4 points 4 months ago +4 / -0

I basically never eat sugar. Hadn't been to the dentist in 15 years. When I finally did go, they did X-rays and found 4 "pre-cavities". Now I'm thinking it was scam.

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– freedomlogic 6 points 4 months ago +6 / -0

I know someone who brushes their teeth twice a day and is still facing gum issues due to genetic issues. Consider yourself lucky.

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– voidposter 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

Yeah definitely something to that - I only brush once a day and use natural, fluoride-free tooth paste.

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– GloboHomoErectus 4 points 4 months ago +4 / -0

I had three or four pre cavities on my teeth, I just started Vitamin K2 MK7, zinc and magnesium supplements. Combine that with brushing my teeth and they faded away after 6 months. No change in diet, although I don't have much sugar.

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– Isolated_Patriot 3 points 4 months ago +3 / -0

I had the "pre-cavity" thing once. Had a broken tooth and needed a crown, local dentist cleaned up the break and put in a temp crown, told me I would need a permanent in six months, and said I had 8 more cavities that needed work.

This one visit completely drained my dental insurance at the time, and the temp crown lasted a month.

Found another dentist in another town who had a cash discount, a big cash discount. Got the new crown for 20% of what it would have cost, and after using a much bigger and more powerful x-ray of my full mouth, he says I'm otherwise in good shape.

I asked him about the 'pre-cavities.' He gave me the look and shook his head.

15-20 years later, crown is long gone and I finally have to get that tooth pulled, third dentist finds ONE small cavity. So yeah, I don't buy that 'pre/micro cavity' bs.

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– Sneak_King 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

It was. I went to the dentist for the first time in 8 years and he found "micro-cavities" that only he could see (dental hygienist said everything looked amazing). I didn't schedule the followup. That was six years ago, and my teeth are fine. I guess they healed themselves.

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– BetterNameUnfound 3 points 4 months ago +3 / -0

Full disclosure: The reason I was at the dentist in the first place was because my last wisdom tooth had split in half, and needed to be removed. The other three had been removed a few years earlier, but at the time, this one was impacted.

I don't know if that one had cavities or what, but it is true that the dentist said this about my OTHER teeth--it actually worked against me, as it made that broken tooth a lot harder to drill out!

I've had no trouble with my teeth since.

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– Vivs3rdSock 6 points 4 months ago +6 / -0

I'm 40 and my wisdom teeth still haven't come in!

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– GloboHomoErectus 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

All but one of my wisdom teeth came out normally, but the one that didn't is lodged almost 90 degrees towards a molar causing an impossible to get to area. There is no way of reaching that deep with any toothbrush, electric sonic, or whatever. You need a waterpik to get out food scraps and use mouth wash daily to prevent an otherwise inevitable extremely expensive dental visit.

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– freedomlogic 5 points 4 months ago +5 / -0

I do recommend brushing your teeth haha, but I have heard this from a dental hygienist before, except the leading theory right now it has something to do with mouth bacteria.

https://dentistry.uic.edu/news-stories/the-true-story-of-why-you-get-cavities-according-to-a-billion-microbes/

I just have to point this out too.

And, these bacteria that cause tooth decay are spreadable. According to the science journal Microbiome , an otherwise innocent ten-second kiss can spread 80 million bacteria between mouths!

I believe this is the primary reason primates kiss, to share "good" bacteria. You know I still find it strange that no one here, in eastern canada anyway, french kisses each other. They all think its weird lol.

Its strange since in Appalachia people kiss each other much more passionately.

But yeah I take terrible care of my teeth. Even cracked a molar open and it was exposed for 3 years before I could get it fixed. Everyday I would have to pick food out but I managed to keep it somehow. That was before the parathyroid issues.

Nowadays all my teeth hurt, I imagine because my parathyroid hormone has been sky high for five years now :(. Dentist gives me shit about it and gets annoyed that I cant breath properly because of my swollen neck, or cant keep my mouth open because my muscles are weak.

Dumb shit.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

A lot of toothpaste is way too abrasive, all in the name of "whitening" https://www.williamsonperio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Toothpaste-Abrasiveness-Ranked-by-RDA.pdf

I've cut down on brushing time and it has helped with some sensitivity problems. I always floss and use a water pick though.

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– ParadigmShift2070 6 points 4 months ago +6 / -0

oh yeah? explain africans who don't have fluoridated water then, check mate atheists

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– alucard13mmfmj 4 points 4 months ago +4 / -0

Somalia must be brimming with flouride lol

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– GloboHomoErectus 3 points 4 months ago +3 / -0

"Study shows"

It's been recommended against for infants and children to drink well water with fluoride in it for decades in Sweden, and our public water is not fluoridated.

The biggest bully and retard I knew had fluoride marks on his teeth from drinking well water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_fluorosis

There is even a survey map online where you can check to see if you need to get your well water filtered from high fluoride.

https://www.sgu.se/anvandarstod-for-geologiska-fragor/bedomningsgrunder-for-grundvatten/grundvattnets-kvalitet--oorganiska-amnen/fluorid/

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– The_Mad_Draklor 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

There are mimetic or nano-hydroxyapatite toothpaste that remineralize your enamel without the need of fluoride. They’re more expensive, but from the scientific literature I’ve read, they appear to work as well.

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