Middle east can just kill each other. Ffs. Let them a fight and get it out of their system. Prolonging this shit results in so much more deaths.
Would you want, for example, 1 year of all the way, balls deep fighting which results in 1 million deaths but itll be over? Or a dragged on war for 10 years and every year there is 100k deaths??
Afghanistan and ukraine now have a generation growing up or grew up in warzones. Generation of fucked up individuals that knows nothing except war.
Even ww2, is around 6 years and that event was many magnitudes more major than anything since then.. afghan war was like 15 years, ukraine currently is 10 years, vietnam was like 6 years?? Etc etc.
Prolonging this shit results in so much more deaths.
When Israel is done with Gaza, the West Bank is next. When the West Bank is done, Lebanon is next. When Lebanon is done, Syria is next. When Syria is done, Jordan is next. When Jordan is done, Iraq is next. When Iraq is done, Egypt is next. When Egypt is done, Saudia Arabia is next.
And all of it will be funded by US and European tax payers. Stop funding Israel and the Middle East will stabilize in record time. As long as Israel has a blanque check to do whatever the fuck they want they'll never stop.
If there is an unavoidable war in your country. You want to worry about being bombed for 1 year or 10 year? Shorter is of course better.
Thats my point. 10 years or 1 year, casualty is the same. Why not have the parties go all out instead of prancing around, beating around the bush. We tried the "lets be friends with locals" in afghanistan, didnt work at all lol.
Being that this paper openly hires anti-white racists (even when such bigoted tweets from the person goes viral), it doesn't surprise me one bit. The NYT is part of the blob and they apparently despise Americans.
What fog of war? In this day and age it is extremely easy to understand what is going on. There's been no fog of war in Ukraine. It's a conflict between Russia and the US over who gets to control Ukraine. That's been pretty fucking obvious since 2014.
Same shit goes for Israel. Israel wants territory. Countless of highranking officials have admitted to that. It's about cleansing Gaza and the West Bank from Palestinians and taking it for themselves. Same old shit Israel's been doing since the very beginning. No fog of war here either.
You're an Useful Idiot if you believe that. It sounds like you think "Fog of War" is literally just not knowing the strategic objectives of a country, and not the actual confusion within the conflict itself. The Fog of War was a literal concept where gun smoke obscured the battlefield that prevented anyone from knowing what was happening. It's not a vague geopolitical concept, it's a tangible level of confusion on the ground due to propaganda, disinformation, active measures, and mostly tactical efforts to prevent true information from being accessed.
In Ukraine we had false reports from both sides, claims of atrocities that didn't happen. Claims of atrocities that did happen, but from the wrong conflict. Claims of atrocities that were accidents. Claims of accidents that were actually atrocities. Claims of large battles that never took place. Claims of silence which were large engagements. Entire campaigns that didn't happen. And most importantly faked footage being propagated as if it were real, including by major news outlets and government sources that include footage from the video game DCS, which was reported as "The Ghost of Kyiv". Finally, the casualties are effectively unknowable as neither side wants to admit the losses they are taking. It seems like over a million people are dead, and we have no idea how many of those are Russian or Ukrainian because no one is giving out accurate numbers, even aid organizations are just repeating propaganda.
The Fog Of War has never been worse.
All you're doing is saying: "I have a vague and biased assumption about the strategic objectives of the belligerents... therefore inaccuracy and propaganda in this conflict does not exist."
"I have a vague and biased assumption about the strategic objectives of the belligerents... therefore inaccuracy and propaganda in this conflict does not exist."
No. I'm saying it doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter who committed what atrocity. It doesn't matter who lost how much. Snake Island is irrelevant. Ghost of Kyviv is irrelevant.
What matter is why the war is fought, who is involved and has a stake in it and who wins in the end. Everything else is unimportant shit that can only be investigated after the dust has settled anyway.
Ms Jeong wrote in one tweet from July 2014: "Oh man it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men." One online critic posted a selection of Ms Jeong's other tweets, which contain obscenities. "Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins," she said in December 2014.
I'm just cheering for both sides to lose.
There’s no scenario where Hamas loses and and Israel loses too
Well can they hurt each other as much as possible.
Middle east can just kill each other. Ffs. Let them a fight and get it out of their system. Prolonging this shit results in so much more deaths.
Would you want, for example, 1 year of all the way, balls deep fighting which results in 1 million deaths but itll be over? Or a dragged on war for 10 years and every year there is 100k deaths??
Afghanistan and ukraine now have a generation growing up or grew up in warzones. Generation of fucked up individuals that knows nothing except war.
Even ww2, is around 6 years and that event was many magnitudes more major than anything since then.. afghan war was like 15 years, ukraine currently is 10 years, vietnam was like 6 years?? Etc etc.
When Israel is done with Gaza, the West Bank is next. When the West Bank is done, Lebanon is next. When Lebanon is done, Syria is next. When Syria is done, Jordan is next. When Jordan is done, Iraq is next. When Iraq is done, Egypt is next. When Egypt is done, Saudia Arabia is next.
And all of it will be funded by US and European tax payers. Stop funding Israel and the Middle East will stabilize in record time. As long as Israel has a blanque check to do whatever the fuck they want they'll never stop.
This right here. Let Israel start and fight all the wars they want ON THEIR OWN.
It's the same number of deaths between 1 year at 1M and 10 years at 100K lol... so whats the tangible difference?
If there is an unavoidable war in your country. You want to worry about being bombed for 1 year or 10 year? Shorter is of course better.
Thats my point. 10 years or 1 year, casualty is the same. Why not have the parties go all out instead of prancing around, beating around the bush. We tried the "lets be friends with locals" in afghanistan, didnt work at all lol.
Yep. It wouldn't surprise me if they bomb babies, then those babies get retroactively promoted to Hamas leaders too.
Being that this paper openly hires anti-white racists (even when such bigoted tweets from the person goes viral), it doesn't surprise me one bit. The NYT is part of the blob and they apparently despise Americans.
OH NO, ATROCITY PROPAGANDA FROM HAMAS, THE KIKES ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD NEVER DO THAT!
I'm not surprised. Qatar's support for Hamas meant that there was a lot of Hamas propaganda that went completely unexamined.
It was basically 2021 with Russia and Ukraine all over again. Hard to even understand what was actually going on.
It is extremely easy to understand. Israel wants to establish Greater Israel.
Israel conquered most of the land you mentioned the first time around in the 40s and then gave it back. Your theory doesn't hold water.
That's like saying Rhodesia "gave back" the country to Mugabe. They were forced to do so.
I'm not sure if Greater Israel is the endgame but gobbling up parts of Syria ain't gonna beat the allegations.
They just need a little living room.
Shush, adults are talking honey.
You don't get to pull the Adult Card while writing like a faggot redditor.
The irony being that it makes him look like more of a tool.
Then actually add something useful, instead of "HUHHNN JOOZ"
This is a conversation about propaganda generally creating a fog of war. Those who contribute like adults will be replied to like adults.
What fog of war? In this day and age it is extremely easy to understand what is going on. There's been no fog of war in Ukraine. It's a conflict between Russia and the US over who gets to control Ukraine. That's been pretty fucking obvious since 2014.
Same shit goes for Israel. Israel wants territory. Countless of highranking officials have admitted to that. It's about cleansing Gaza and the West Bank from Palestinians and taking it for themselves. Same old shit Israel's been doing since the very beginning. No fog of war here either.
You're an Useful Idiot if you believe that. It sounds like you think "Fog of War" is literally just not knowing the strategic objectives of a country, and not the actual confusion within the conflict itself. The Fog of War was a literal concept where gun smoke obscured the battlefield that prevented anyone from knowing what was happening. It's not a vague geopolitical concept, it's a tangible level of confusion on the ground due to propaganda, disinformation, active measures, and mostly tactical efforts to prevent true information from being accessed.
In Ukraine we had false reports from both sides, claims of atrocities that didn't happen. Claims of atrocities that did happen, but from the wrong conflict. Claims of atrocities that were accidents. Claims of accidents that were actually atrocities. Claims of large battles that never took place. Claims of silence which were large engagements. Entire campaigns that didn't happen. And most importantly faked footage being propagated as if it were real, including by major news outlets and government sources that include footage from the video game DCS, which was reported as "The Ghost of Kyiv". Finally, the casualties are effectively unknowable as neither side wants to admit the losses they are taking. It seems like over a million people are dead, and we have no idea how many of those are Russian or Ukrainian because no one is giving out accurate numbers, even aid organizations are just repeating propaganda.
The Fog Of War has never been worse.
All you're doing is saying: "I have a vague and biased assumption about the strategic objectives of the belligerents... therefore inaccuracy and propaganda in this conflict does not exist."
No. I'm saying it doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter who committed what atrocity. It doesn't matter who lost how much. Snake Island is irrelevant. Ghost of Kyviv is irrelevant.
What matter is why the war is fought, who is involved and has a stake in it and who wins in the end. Everything else is unimportant shit that can only be investigated after the dust has settled anyway.
What do you expect from these parasites on our society?
Cool
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An Enemy of my enemy (read Israel) is my friend.
Wow, a lefty propaganda rag supporting lefty terrorists (who lie about being terrorists to fool the useful idiots). Who could have seen this coming.