Within 24 hours, I have discovered that the divide between most of the dissident right and the infamous puritan conservative faction that had existed long before the emergence of the dissident right is becoming significantly more pronounced and aggressive. Said faction is frequently being referred to [cannot find term] as the "woke right".
Puritan conservatives existed for a long time and have been blamed for inflicting SEVERE damage upon the right in general that took the regressive left getting exposed to fix, and grudges with these morons are flaring up again because they are bitching about sexy women in media by flat out calling it/negatively comparing it to pornography, with said pearl clutching angering people by drawing negative parallels to the regressive left's promotion of the extremist drivel known as objectification theory.
The "Right" will always have a divide between people who are in it for Conserving some traditional period they think is best and those who are in it for the principles and ideologies.
Most of the time these two camps are able to come together to resist the common foe the Left represents, but without that they often have very little common ground.
I heard of Lindsays 'woke right' and I think he is being stupid while also being correct. He considers the old liberal of the early 2000s as the preferred state of culture without realizing that was not a stable state. The current clown world is an unavoidable conclusion of classical liberalism.
Part of this is due to one of those modern dilemmas that hasn't been figured out yet. Hot girls in games used to be more artistic and less defined, somewhat owing to tech limitations. Mai Shiranui in KOF '94 had bouncing boobs, but that's a little different than the camera crowding a girl's fat ass in 4K. In the context of a mass audience, one of those is more ignorable.
Baldur's Gate has obviously pushed the envelope on this, normalizing bearly disguised bestiality and other perversions. (I would say TLOU2 also pushed the envelope with its dry humping homo scene, but I'm not so sure about that for reasons we all know.)
People here will probably hate this take, but I think it's a real thing. DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball is kind of tame by today's standards. The next battleground will not be the thong, but the raytracing on a girl's cornhole behind it.
Why do you do this? I mean if you're lumping them together as instigators of lust from a religious moralistic perspective that's understandable, but that shouldn't be political. You'll never get most voters to agree on that.
It's part of the same issue insofar as where people draw the line in sexual content.
Does this forum consider BG3 sex scenes to be in bad taste or no? I forgot.
This forum consists of a bunch of individuals, some of whom probably fall on either side and some with no opinion.
When it came to Baldur's Gate 3, the "queer coded" bullshit and the fact extreme content such as feral was inserted into an existing IP was the issue.
BG3 would have gotten away with the feral content if it was not connected to D&D including Baldur's Gate.
If we're talking about gaming in particular, the problem is these "woke right" (a term we should kill immediately) are running up against gamers having to deal with uglified characters for years so are EXTREMELY resistant to any toning down.
The argument should be 'appropriate time and place' as let's be honest, kids should not be playing GTA let alone a game where the female character has most of her ass hanging out. But that is on PARENTS to stop that, not society or especially the government, we just label it appropriately.
I have more issues with Twitch thots in REAL life targeting kids than virtual girls when both are indications of a parent not monitoring their kids media consumption.
It's about Lincoln. You have a whole host of conservatives who buy into the Lincoln myth. That believes the US was founded as a melting pot. They believe Lincoln made a true America by conquering the South and installing a strong central government, and then he was martyred before he could take full control. They will refer to Lincoln as a founding father, and in the same breath as Washington or Jefferson.
Is "puritan conservatives" a new synonym for "anti-loli spergs"? Don't bullshit us, we all know what the one thing that matters the most to you is.
The weathervane I currently use is essentially the JQ and whether a conservative pundit is willing to explicitly "notice" things.
The noticing can get pretty schizo & obsessive, but anyone who won't at least acknowledge patterns & the problem really can't be trusted on other topics.
Academic Agent had a video a few weeks back where he broke the American right into 4 factions mostly by friend/enemy distinction, blind loyalty to Trump vs constructive criticism of Dear Leader and the willingness to address the JQ.
He specifically labeled true MAGA supporters as blind partisans rooting for their team unwaveringly like sportsball..
Theres an ongoing feud on Twitter where some "Jesus freak" fem streamers who want to "ban porn" are sperging out over Korean games and their fan service.
That does sound like how it probably started.
The divide was there but has become more apparent because a) Overton Window shifting ;
And B) The religious fanatic or traditionalist types have finally coalesced on or have figured out the Internet, and have also grown confident in shaming their own supposed political allies about the way things should be, even if we don't agree on the authoritarian aspects of their beliefs on governance, in general or through a version of Magic Sky Man that has only been around for a few millennia. Minor differences in opinion become red lines of harsh disagreement.
Their kind still are accepted in scant few places on the web with reach, that aren't already their own echo chambers, so they congregate in places like this where free speech is actually granted to users, and naturally will slide the discourse to their liking. The common response to what was acceptable discussion on KiA five years becomes "find a gf you coomer filth", completely blind to a lot of what's been going on thanks to their experiential bias.
At the end of the day, this is all a distraction and it's all about the big donors. Let's see what sway Elon Musk has within the Trump faction. Trump has already proven himself beholden to untoward influences in order to stay in power. With Musk in his corner, Trump may be able to have some more leeway and take out a couple of the worst elements (Republican/Democrat and third parties), but I doubt it.
I don't think James Lindsay was specifically talking about puritan cons with "woke right", but come to think of it some of them do fit in that box like Walsh and Sargon. Razorfist had several mini rants against them on his stream last night (even though he agrees the term is stupid) because he considers them Collectivists at heart and dangerous to the American political right. He said a lot of them are inspired by European right-wing parties and he hates attempts to fit the American political spectrum into the European paradigm. Two flavors of socialism. As for Lindsay's point of view it sounds like he simply meant anyone who applies critical theory style dialectic in service of right-wing politics, or anyone who philosophically argues for RETVRN. He's not really right-wing himself afaik.
Lmao Matt Walsh and his influence is literally one of the few keeping retards from going full liberal. It wasn't Walsh that was defending having a prostitute speak at the RNC