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EXPOSED: How Israeli spies control your VPN (www.mintpressnews.com)
posted 1 year ago by Skywise 1 year ago by Skywise +81 / -0
Exposed: How Israeli Spies Control Your VPN
A new report uncovers the troubling ties between top VPN services like ExpressVPN and the Israeli security state, raising alarms about how much control Israel’s Unit 8200 has over your online privacy.
www.mintpressnews.com
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– TheOutlaw 26 points 1 year ago +26 / -0

You have to be very careful with VPNs. Even if they're not directly controlled by spooks they often collect information that a privacy service shouldn't collect. It's also very hard to get reliable information on different services because VPN shills rival the DNC's astroturfing abilities.

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– Stagecoach 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Tor/TAILS should also be pretty secure, assuming the unlikelihood that all 3 nodes you pass through are compromised by the same entity. But it's so slow that it becomes impractical for casual internet use.

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– daberoniandcheese 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Tor is just a huge pain to use. Wish I knew of a better alternative.

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– akira2501 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Hiding your traffic makes it easier to find because so few people go to that trouble.

Your better bet is to hide among noise.

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– Stagecoach 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Hide among the noise? As soon as you access any website or download or post any dissident comment, then you're immediately going to be flagged. Even if your online activity is perfectly legal, you're being entered in a database and analyzed.

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– akira2501 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

As soon as you access from a connection that you own. Access it from other peoples connections. Generate the noise yourself. Make your connection look like it belongs to a dorm. Bounce your traffic through two separate connections. Learn how to make all your connections look different. Noise is more than just volume.

So.. your complaint is that it's hard to be an armchair dissident?

Good luck.

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– Stagecoach 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

So.. your complaint is that it's hard to be an armchair dissident?

No, I'm saying that choosing not to hide your traffic is stupid.

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– akira2501 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes, and I'm telling you that "hiding your traffic" is impossible, and you should be smarter, if you actually want to be a "dissident."

Or.. I guess.. yea, the guys charging $20/mo can hide you from the government.

If you believe that.. I have some other services you might be interested in.

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– Stagecoach 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Tor is free, so I don't know where you're getting this $20/mo bit from, and it was used and recommended by Edward Snowden while evading detection by the NSA. Going over to your friend's apartment to use their internet, however, is not a good opsec strategy.

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– Dark_Shroud 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

No VPN charges $20 a month, not even the directly Jewish owned ones.

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– Dark_Shroud 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Or run TOR over a VPN. More than a few of us do this. Especially if you're going to host an exit node.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

So what's wrong with NordVPN? I have never gotten an answer to this question that satisfied me.

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– TheOutlaw 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'm not familiar with it, so I can't say. The point isn't that all VPNs are bad, or even that a particular VPN is bad. The point is that there are a lot of bad actors in this space and a lot of shills that make getting honest information difficult.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

There is a lot of FUD about VPNs. Even about NordVPN. But I haven't been able to substantiate any of it in a way that made me think using another VPN (short of my own server) would be any better.

If they really don't have your info, they wouldn't be able to hand it over to any court. So I think if we could look at what they do under pressure, we'd know.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

How long until they cause my phone to explode?

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– Unknownsailor 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I've used NordVPN for a while now, but I only flip it on when I sail the high seas. I use adblock (doesn't everyone?), use Brave browser, and have a pi-hole on my network, which black holes most ad sites and malware at the DNS level.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

NordVPn seems fine to me. I have one browser with the extension so it's always on there. I use a NordVPN proxy server for Bittorrent. (Protip, you can do the same thing on Android with Firefox Beta that supports extensions. You setup the proxy server so it will always be used unless you turn it off).

They do actually cut people's internet off for piracy, so using a VPN is practically important beyond just the 5 eyes looking at your stuff which they probably do anyways.

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– fvckface 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Get a Swiss VPN with a No-Logs policy that is only subject to Swiss privacy policies.

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– Stagecoach 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I've only ever heard good things about protonvpn, but admittedly I'm not sure how you could verify that the servers they host outside their own country don't secretly cooperate with other governments.

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– AcidOverlord 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

They also turn people in to the Swiss government, who can then share that information at their pleasure.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

They donate to some stuff that I would absolutely consider a red flag, but I also don't know if there are better services.

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– evilplushie 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

expressvpn was already dodgy a few years back after they were bought up

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I bought some headphones that were advertised on YouTube -- they broke after a month, and I feel like this is like that. I would not know about expressvpn but for ads (endorsements). That is perhaps a poor way of picking, uh, vendors.

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– raptor_jesus 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Picking a vendor who has asserted in court a "no logs" policy that has had their shit physically seized in the past and had that proved fruitless for the state's case isn't the worst way to pick a vpn. That said good luck avoiding Israeli influence on the internet.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Post Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks

Post Approved: Nothing in this article does this.

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– Skywise [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Wut?! This isn't an attack on Jews or Zionism... it's just pointing out that the Israeli Security services (not unlike the CIA) OWNS some VPNS!!!

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I know, that's what I said.

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– Dark_Shroud 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

There are people online that loose their damn minds over VPN talk. I've been all buy banned from other small tech sites over this.

Because I did this a few years ago looking up VPNs because I needed one and shared what I was re-searching. Big mistake on my part.

I went with SurfShark because of their pricing and not being owned by one of the Israeli groups. They've also partnered with NordVPN for security research and tech.

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– solder0 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I used proton, then I used a script that let me tunnel into a VPS of someone that I trusted. I think I can still trust them, but they don't have that hardware anymore. :(

Pretty cool setup actually, privacy anywhere on Earth straight from the Balkans.

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– Skywise [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Actually - I'd take this article with a grain of salt. Though I'm still not convinced that VPNs are as secure as claimed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News

MintPress News (MPN) is an American far-left[1] news website. It was founded and edited by Mnar Adley and was launched in January 2012,[2] and also publishes the MintCast podcast. The site covers political, economic, foreign affairs and environmental issues.

MintPress News supports Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, and the governments of Russia, Iran, and Syria.[3][4] It opposes the governments of Israel and Saudi Arabia,[5] and reports geopolitical events from an anti-Western perspective.[6] In one contentious article, MintPress News asserted that the Ghouta chemical attack in Syria was perpetrated by rebel groups rather than by the Syrian government, a claim pushed by the Russian and Syrian governments and rejected by much of the international community.[4]

MintPress News was a major media domain that spread disinformation about the White Helmets, a Syrian volunteer organization.[7] The site has been accused of regularly publishing pro-Russian propaganda,[8] and has been described as a conspiratorial website by media studies and disinformation scholars.[9][10]

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