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The Furries and Big Tech want to force Rust into the Linux Kernel. (www.youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by Nohomo 1 year ago by Nohomo +89 / -0
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– Nohomo [S] 25 points 1 year ago +25 / -0

We're seeing wokeness in action to destroy Linux. Not sure if its because trannies love Rust and hate C. Or if they want Linux gone because its harder to control than Windows.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

Personally I'm not even opposed to an OS written in something like Rust. But trying to lie to a bunch of C kernel developers that "no one's expecting you to learn Rust" when that's blatantly false if the Rust people get what they want from the effort is simply being disingenuous.

At least be honest to these people that you consider their skills obsolete in the modern world. That would be the honorable and respectful thing to do.

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– RoulerBleu 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

''We're not comming for your videogames.''

Means ''we are just going to crybully our way into every game we can as consultants, ESG money and government grants conditional to woke everything''.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Right. When Microsoft Research did their C#/.NET kernel back in the day they did their own thing instead of trying to bolt it onto an existing kernel. They weren't trying to tell a bunch of C kernel devs "no one's trying to force you to learn C#" as they try to rewrite major kernel subsystems in C#.

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– ailurus 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Probably all of the above. But, as someone who teaches programming, so many people have a massive hate-boner when it comes to C and C derivatives it's just absurd.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I've actually always thought C and C++ was cool because it seems much more intuitive to how data actually works in the computer. Other, more 'modern' languages seem to hide so much of the actual data manipulation that it actually seems to make less sense.

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– Tundinator 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

That's because you were taught under the previous paradigm, that understanding the foundations gives you a good way to filter out bad patterns.

Nowadays it's low skill programmers from india and people using AI to cargo cult good practices, and so making it dumb for them means more code gets written, which managers like, because they also don't understand code.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I can tell "new" people don't write software the way I write software. That is for sure. The level of caring about how well the software works is low, is my impression. And they dont' know how to test.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

AI Cargo Cult is a good term to describe pop-sci-tech-fetishists. I wonder if we can call AI programmers "AI Cargo Cult Code Monkeys"

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– ModsAreAIDS 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

They hide it because C/C++ give you enough power to actually be dangerous. Modern languages are all stuck in the idiot proofing/ encounter a better idiot cycle.

I don't miss messing with pointers, but the hand holding can definitely go too far.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

What's even the point of hand-holding in coding?

I grant you, there might be a language built for non-coders that you might want to do that with, but not with people who's job it is.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

C++ also results in stuff happening in unknown spots due to the C/CPP run time support needed for it. With C , it is easy to predict when code will run. C++ has things like static initializers whose code runs "I have no idea when".

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– SR388-SAX 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

In general, if you're relying on static initialization to run at a specific time or in a specific order, you've probably done something horribly wrong in your architecture.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

"whenever I feel like it"

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The compilers (and linker -- the toolchain) do a lot of work to make C work as a shorthand for assembly. You have to write some assembly, anyways, for something like the Linux kernel, but you avoid a lot of it by taking advantage of properties of C like the calling convention and struct packing. I routinely need compiler extensions to make low level C code work.

C has kind of a dated syntax, but I suspect for low level usage, no other programming language is going to be effectively different. It's just writing the same story using different words.

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– cccpneveragain 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

There's an obsession with crutches for bad programmers. They are so obsessed with worrying about memory safety and such in all these new languages. How about learning and thinking how the computer works instead? Even more so, keep things simple! I hate modern programming because it's a circlejerk of how much more complicated can we do this. I was at one point considering learning Rust just for my own interest sake but I'm not wasting my time on that anymore.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Even more so, keep things simple!

I wish this would return to software design in a broader sense. Too many things these days try to do and be everything. Give me a tool that is very good at one specific thing rather than a toolbox that's a mess and is mediocre at everything.

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– realerfunction 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

you don't understand we NEED to make this app a separate operating system to show you a text box.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– MLGS 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

It's because troons are a relentless plague who exist only to destroy everything good in the world.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

ding ding ding, we have a winner!

The purpose of SJW destruction is to eliminate competition against the corporate oligarchs.

Progressives are the storm troopers of the Fabian Socialist ("Corporatists") they claim to oppose.

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