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NBC News' "fact check" of the Trump Harris debate is as bad as you expect, maybe worse (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by YesMovement 1 year ago by YesMovement +45 / -0
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– deleted 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0
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– ghostfox1_ 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Because Trump is a retard, his campaign is shit, and everyone who thinks he's going to save America is a cultist.

He's a shit candidate, and not really even conservative. He's a dem from 20 years ago at best.

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– LeRiverDanube 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

not really even conservative

Ah yes another 'fellow conservative'. You're a long away from reddit. But it's not trump's first wrango to wade in enemy territory, he does it often.

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– ghostfox1_ 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'm more to the right fiscally and socially than he is. He stumped for Clinton. He's pro spending and tries to win the back vote with gibs, not pro 2a at all, pro faggotry.

Remind me what he's conserving? Fucking cultists, slobbing his knob.

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– LeRiverDanube 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Remind me what he's conserving?

free speech

rest of your constitutional rights

affordability

borders

just a few on the top of my head

Meanwhile what do you have 'conservative' actually conserve? Right now you're just the backstabbiest backseat gamers we've ever seen.

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– ghostfox1_ 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I keep voting for actual right wing candidates who want a smaller government and not spend more than we take in.

I can't help that retards who want gibs make up the majority of the population.

But it's fine. Just keep running left. That'll own the left!

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– LeRiverDanube 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

How's that prolife attitude gone for you?

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Just fine, actually. How's having no principles going for you? Going to compromise your way onto train cars?

https://youtu.be/igBTQiZbzfE?si=t0cAMcEG1uid8aex

Literally you retards

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... continue reading thread?
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– jvardrake 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Look - the guy's obviously not a fucking retard, but he does have this noticeable weakness in that he is easily - easily - baited into stuff like this, by simply putting out simplistic garbage that attacks him in the basest of ways that invokes his massive ego.

The left needed this debate way more than he did. Despite both the media, and the tech companies that control nearly the entire flow of information to the disinterested masses in the middle, giving 100% positive coverage of Harris, and near universal negative (and relentless) coverage of Trump, their girl is still basically a bit under 50/50 odds. Seriously - with the entire force of their machine doing its absolute damnedest to carry her across the finish line, they still can't make her likable enough to be more than 50/50 likely to win. So, they need soundbites. They need new crap their propagandists can blast the disinterested masses in the middle with (and what a surprise, look how hard the machine is going the day after, looking to set the narrative...).

Everyone (everyone that's not a 100% intellectually dishonest leftist) knew that they were going to pull out all the stops at this "debate", and ambush him with as biased a 3v1 full on assault as they could, and then follow it up with endless articles/clips declaring Trump a liar, and Harris the "winner". Again - there was zero reason that he should have walked into this, unless he was able to get it on some sort of "neutral ground" - a non mainstream media moderated platform. Despite knowing exactly what they were going to do, despite knowing that there was no way in hell he'd be allowed to "win" this debate, all they had to do to get him to capitulate, was run that exact simplistic garbage out there calling him "afraid to 'debate' Harris", and they guy walked right into it.

Look. I like Trump's policies (mostly). I love the fact that I can go to sleep at night knowing that - despite all his many issues - this one guy is not out to destroy my country like the shitbag left is. That being said, he is not the master orator/debater he thinks he is, and it's far -far - too easy to sucker him into allowing their propaganda machine set him up to fail. He knew what they were going to do. He knew he stood nothing to gain from this. Giving their propaganda system another high profile stage to attack him was a mistake.

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– ghostfox1_ 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

He knew what they were going to do. He knew he stood nothing to gain from this. Giving their propaganda system another high profile stage to attack him was a mistake.

And this is one reason why he's a retard. He fell for the most obvious fucking trap in existence, because he can't control his ego.

All he had to do was show up, hammer harris on the economy and border, and blast her for her failure to control the border. And instead he gets fucked by his own ego and lack of control

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– LeRiverDanube 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Are we going to suddenly ignore the abc backlash? Betting odds aside. This debate didnt move the needle.

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– ghostfox1_ 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

ABC fucking up doesn't make him less retarded.

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– LeRiverDanube 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Damn the tds is strong in this one.

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Damn. The cultist is strong in this one.

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– Hugs 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

If you don't vote for Trump, you are technically contributing to a greater likelihood of a Kamala win. How do you square that?

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Im in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter.

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– LeRiverDanube 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

'Fellow conservative'...

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'm more conservative than most of the republican party, so fuck off faggot.

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– deleted 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0
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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech

Comment Removed for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech

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– MLGS 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Lmfao. I really won.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That's not my call to determine that, but still don't say those specific things.

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You're a faggot.

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– MLGS 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Shut the fuck up.

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Go slob trumps knob more. I'm sure he loves it, and so do you. Fucking retards.

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– MLGS 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I win.

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Okay retard.

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– TriangleGang 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Fact check: Did Trump threaten there would be a ‘bloodbath’ if he doesn’t win the 2024 election?

This is true, though Trump says differently.

Fact check: Trump says Harris ‘wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison’

This needs context.

This pretty much tells you all you need to know.

The bloodbath comment was made to a group of Auto workers about the impact of China flooding the US market with cars, but Harris took it out of context in an attempt to make it sound like he was going to launch some sort of revolution if he didn't win office. It's the perfect example of when the moderators should have stepped in and placed the comment in its proper context but didn't.

Harris responded to a 2019 questionnaire and said that she believed people in federal custody should receive 'gender affirming care', to include illegal immigrants being detained or incarcerated. It really isn't any additional context that needs to be added.

Anyone who watches the mainstream media without realizing they have dropped any pretense of unbiased reporting is a fool.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

my takeaway is that Trump is very prone to exaggeration, but the core of what he says is not wrong.

80, 85, to 90% of voters think I will be better on the economy

it's closer to 65%, which is still an insane margin over your competition.

the Taliban gained $85 billion of military equipment when we foot Afghanistan

it was closer to $7 billion, which is still a fucking lot.

Trump needs to get in the habit of using vague terms when making statements like this.

"most voters prefer me on the economy over harris, and the margin isn't even close"

"the Taliban was able to steal an army's worth of our military equipment when we fled Afghanistan."

this would make his statements functionally the same, but would leave him less vulnerable to dirty media tricks.

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– Raos044 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

my takeaway is that Trump is very prone to exaggeration, but the core of what he says is not wrong.

Exactly. He is a businessman at his core so overselling something is part of his nature.

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– nuggetpatrol 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I only caught bits and pieces, but it appeared to me that the moderators were more prepared than Harris was.

So either the steal is going to be so legendary that it doesn't matter, or even she knows she has no chance.

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– Norenia 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

There's a point in which one could say "Light Yagami did only one thing wrong. Just one."

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– I_Miss_Imp 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Can you elaborate what you mean when you say one thing he did wrong? Seems like it was a few things that led to his downfall.

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– Norenia 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

He let Lind L. Taylor get to him.

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