If we just live in perpetual fear of criticizing Republicans leading to Democrat victories, the GOP will just get worse and worse. We've seen that in action. Trump was supposed to shake up the "lesser of two evils" paradigm, yet here we are 8 years later. At some point, some of them have to not fucking suck.
That said, I still think a Trump victory is preferable for other reasons. If he betrays his voters for Israel, it will demystify politics even more.
I will vote for Trump. I will also refrain from punching right. Trump does deserve criticism from the right, because he rules from the middle; I don't think Trump's record is anything other than 'business as usual' 80s-era Democrat-- which, as Nick points out, isn't that great for young white men. When, other than through dissent now, would he even be heard? Then, you have to ask would the rot ever be addressed hereafter? No. The country would be saved, those who Made America Great Again (Again) would return to their slumber and the time we have now before Whites become a minority goes to waste.
Ironically, I think a scenario parallel to what's presently happening in the UK, with the US under a Harris administration could be better for the Right in the long run than sleepwalking through Trump's second term. I don't see the frogs jumping out of the pot unless we have things come to a boil.
If you were actually paying attention you would see the complaints have nothing to do with israel other than wanting to avoid the US getting involved in a war with Iran.
JD Vance is a terrible choice. Even if he is working directly for the CIA he is tight with the intelligence/tech ouroboros. He has no charisma and he hates his White heritage, his book said so.
The campaign needs to appeal to White men directly and state clearly and specifically "This is what we will do for you."
Soft messaging on the border, illegals, and support for legal immigration
American sovereignty is the primary issue. Right now the number one obstacle to that sovereignty is government officials who are more loyal to Israel than the US. And billions in foreign money spent making sure israel first candidates are elected.
If China or Russia or Iran were doing the same thing to influence American elections the corrupt legacy media would be screaming bloody murder 24/7 and there would be congressional hearings about it and legislation in motion to stop it.
If you are in the US "not taking a side" means giving military cover and taxpayer money supporting Israels regional aggression, provocations, and human rights violations. Because that is the status quo.
The problem is that group is full of natural attention seekers so they can bring up good points to get an audience but need conflict to keep the interest.
Whether they're feds, edgy teenagers or perpetually-adolescent thirty-somethings, stormfags are all natural attention seekers. That's literally their reason for existing.
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Wait! The Muslims and Nazis are coming to burn your funko pop collection and your gay porn stash, and, look!, they are already underneath your bed! We must save our liberties and freedumbs and tha constitushun and tha Jews from tha Mooslims and Nasties.
They've already intercepted your latest package of adult diapers from Amazon! They are coming after TheImpossible1, too!
Run along, now! For it is time for you and your beloved Agent Orange Julius Caesar Cheeto Benito Vladonolf Jenkem Trumputlerolini to Make America Gayer Always! You will be tread on. MAGA! Wait... that's wrong! Lady MAGA!
The fag you are replying to is constantly fishing for a way to discredit White Nationalists without engaging anything we actually say. When he's tried that, it's blown up in his face.
Israel wants to flood the West Muslims and its lobbyist have enough influence to get those policies implemented. We just saw this in action in April here in the US. Ignoring them is completely insane.
That is crazy, which is why no one said that. Do you think you can stop the flow of Muslims without criticizing the Israel lobby?
Nice slight of hand pivoting to a different country, by the way, avoiding discussing our April Congressional session is a wise tactic decision on your part, dishonest but wise.
The editorialized headline is confusing because it reads as though Keith Woods is unhappy with Fuentes for criticizing Trump rather than being disappointed with Trump for doubling down on Israel.
AFAICT, Keith Woods is still pro-Fuentes & at least Groyper War adjacent.
The battlelines of pro vs anti Nick critics roughly divides as
Pro:
Candace Owens
Keith Woods
Lauren Witzke
possibly Lauren Chen?
Against
Bronze Age Pervert
Ramzpaul
Milo Y
Fuentes was also trying to bully his way into a Tucker Carlson interview earlier, calling him out as a fed who is scared to mention Nick's name.
I'm confused. I can't keep track of who is sabotaging who. Wasn't it alleged that Milo was the one behind 'setting up' Trump to meet with Fuentes without Trump's knowledge, to make him look bad? Does Milo love or hate Trump this week? Same for Fuentes.
I don't trust Trump this time around because rather than coming into office on his own money, he is now backed by mostly Jewish billionaires who are hungry for war in the Middle East and want a rebuilt military. I predict that Trump 2024 will be a third Bush/Cheney term rather than the Trump we remember.
As everyone here knows, I have stated numerous times that I have multiple grievances with Trump.
Yet I will be wholeheartedly voting for Trump to stop Kamala Harris.
The Groypers need to shut up and stop derailing Trump.
We cannot survive a Kamala Harris Presidency.
If we just live in perpetual fear of criticizing Republicans leading to Democrat victories, the GOP will just get worse and worse. We've seen that in action. Trump was supposed to shake up the "lesser of two evils" paradigm, yet here we are 8 years later. At some point, some of them have to not fucking suck.
That said, I still think a Trump victory is preferable for other reasons. If he betrays his voters for Israel, it will demystify politics even more.
Does Nick genuinely not understand hiding his power level or is he just that much of an autist?
He's a fifth columnist and always has been.
Yeah, I'm not a big Trump fan after his presidency. He did little more than a poor job at a holding action for 4 years.
But I'm a huge fan of our country not getting annihilated by dems, who will send us hurtling full speed into destruction.
I will vote for Trump. I will also refrain from punching right. Trump does deserve criticism from the right, because he rules from the middle; I don't think Trump's record is anything other than 'business as usual' 80s-era Democrat-- which, as Nick points out, isn't that great for young white men. When, other than through dissent now, would he even be heard? Then, you have to ask would the rot ever be addressed hereafter? No. The country would be saved, those who Made America Great Again (Again) would return to their slumber and the time we have now before Whites become a minority goes to waste.
Ironically, I think a scenario parallel to what's presently happening in the UK, with the US under a Harris administration could be better for the Right in the long run than sleepwalking through Trump's second term. I don't see the frogs jumping out of the pot unless we have things come to a boil.
That's kinda the point. Whites won't survive either one. Might as well accelerate while we still have the ability to defend ourselves.
I don't think a vote for Trump represents me and my family anymore. Harris ofc is looney tunes.
If you were actually paying attention you would see the complaints have nothing to do with israel other than wanting to avoid the US getting involved in a war with Iran.
specific campaign staffers were/(are?) nevertrumpers who have conflicts of interest and are making massive strategic errors
JD Vance is a terrible choice. Even if he is working directly for the CIA he is tight with the intelligence/tech ouroboros. He has no charisma and he hates his White heritage, his book said so.
The campaign needs to appeal to White men directly and state clearly and specifically "This is what we will do for you."
Soft messaging on the border, illegals, and support for legal immigration
unnecessarily aggressive rhetoric against Iran
Groyper War II's "official" demands of Trump are as I understand them:
A third unofficial plank seems to be to fire his campaign staffers Chris Licivita & Susie Wiles.
Fuentes is already personally claiming victory for Trump hiring that new Cory L guy staffer.
American sovereignty is the primary issue. Right now the number one obstacle to that sovereignty is government officials who are more loyal to Israel than the US. And billions in foreign money spent making sure israel first candidates are elected.
Saw a clip of the Wesley West guy who received 8 million from AIPAC to beat Cori Bush in her primary.
His answer to how he felt about AIPAC pumping millions into his campaign was essentially "every Democrat takes AIPAC money" & "I love Israel".
If China or Russia or Iran were doing the same thing to influence American elections the corrupt legacy media would be screaming bloody murder 24/7 and there would be congressional hearings about it and legislation in motion to stop it.
Exactly. Anybody who advocates for more invasion/cobtrol from either Muslims OR pajeets OR jews is the problem.
Auslander raus, all of them.
If you are in the US "not taking a side" means giving military cover and taxpayer money supporting Israels regional aggression, provocations, and human rights violations. Because that is the status quo.
The problem is that group is full of natural attention seekers so they can bring up good points to get an audience but need conflict to keep the interest.
Is Woods's point bad?
Whether they're feds, edgy teenagers or perpetually-adolescent thirty-somethings, stormfags are all natural attention seekers. That's literally their reason for existing.
Burger-buggering, bum-blasting, bloviating liberetardian gaymerfag! Catamitic cretinous cross-dressing cum-fuelled crapitalist curmudgeon! Mad mindless monstrous moronic mental midget maricon! Get those cheeseburger wrappers off the floor! Pronto! And just what are all these Cheetos packets lying around for!? And just why are you hitting that piece of fried chicken!? Look, that's not what 'beating your meat' means!
Wait! The Muslims and Nazis are coming to burn your funko pop collection and your gay porn stash, and, look!, they are already underneath your bed! We must save our liberties and freedumbs and tha constitushun and tha Jews from tha Mooslims and Nasties.
They've already intercepted your latest package of adult diapers from Amazon! They are coming after TheImpossible1, too!
Run along, now! For it is time for you and your beloved Agent Orange Julius Caesar Cheeto Benito Vladonolf Jenkem Trumputlerolini to Make America Gayer Always! You will be tread on. MAGA! Wait... that's wrong! Lady MAGA!
The fag you are replying to is constantly fishing for a way to discredit White Nationalists without engaging anything we actually say. When he's tried that, it's blown up in his face.
Israel wants to flood the West Muslims and its lobbyist have enough influence to get those policies implemented. We just saw this in action in April here in the US. Ignoring them is completely insane.
That is crazy, which is why no one said that. Do you think you can stop the flow of Muslims without criticizing the Israel lobby?
Nice slight of hand pivoting to a different country, by the way, avoiding discussing our April Congressional session is a wise tactic decision on your part, dishonest but wise.
Fuck ‘em all simple as lol
The editorialized headline is confusing because it reads as though Keith Woods is unhappy with Fuentes for criticizing Trump rather than being disappointed with Trump for doubling down on Israel.
AFAICT, Keith Woods is still pro-Fuentes & at least Groyper War adjacent.
The battlelines of pro vs anti Nick critics roughly divides as
Pro:
Against
Fuentes was also trying to bully his way into a Tucker Carlson interview earlier, calling him out as a fed who is scared to mention Nick's name.
I'm confused. I can't keep track of who is sabotaging who. Wasn't it alleged that Milo was the one behind 'setting up' Trump to meet with Fuentes without Trump's knowledge, to make him look bad? Does Milo love or hate Trump this week? Same for Fuentes.
These people are all a bunch of grifting weirdos.
Milo has been tweeting like a spurned comic book supervillain for the last few weeks.
And never forget that despite this, they still want him dead because, for whatever reason, Trump still gives white people hope.
I don't trust Trump this time around because rather than coming into office on his own money, he is now backed by mostly Jewish billionaires who are hungry for war in the Middle East and want a rebuilt military. I predict that Trump 2024 will be a third Bush/Cheney term rather than the Trump we remember.