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Musk Says He’s Deleted CrowdStrike From Systems After Outage (www.bloomberg.com)
posted 1 year ago by Questionable 1 year ago by Questionable +69 / -0
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– Galean 40 points 1 year ago +40 / -0

There is something strange about the response to CrowdStrike. I've had people defend them and blame the companies for having auto-update.

It's not just an observations but along the lines of they are good and we need to continue doing business with them. It feels very odd and forced.

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– yeldarb1983 35 points 1 year ago +35 / -0

not defending crowdstrike, but auto updates are a bad idea in my opinion.

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– GloboHomoErectus 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

I cannot fathom the man who auto updates nor the man who never updates.

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– Gizortnik 21 points 1 year ago +21 / -0

the man who never updates

He got burned by Microsoft XP's Service Pack 2 update from over a decade ago and decided it was never worth the risk if something's already working.

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– yeldarb1983 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

lol. I stopped updating when every single goddammn update was pushing win10 on me, and my machine literally could not upgrade ( I tried multiple times, and every time, it ended up rolling back).

Then I found out about the crap win10 was phoning home (and their bullshit excuse that it was just "telemetry data," which by the way is a meaningless phrase), and how they were going to force updates, and I said "fukkit, linux it is"

...and now I occasionally remember to update, lol.

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– Chillin_in_PNW 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Hey thats me!

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– BeefyBelisarius 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Has it really been a decade already?

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– lapalapa -1 points 1 year ago +3 / -4

When it comes to servers and security, you want to update as soon as possible. If updates are frequent, there's no reason not to automatize it.

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– RoulerBleu 22 points 1 year ago +23 / -1

There is at least one reason to not automatize updating and it just happened.

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– yeldarb1983 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

I disagree. in a business environment, you should be testing updates before you deploy company-wide, and this crowdstrike fiasco is a good reason why.

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– Gizortnik 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

You want to update by choice as soon as possible.

Auto-updating without consent creates downstream disasters, even security vulnerabilities. If I don't see release notes, I ain't updating.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Sure, except for the giant clusterfuck we’re talking about that happened just a couple days ago.

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– SR388-SAX 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Sysadmin For DEI hires:

"Install operating system and services with default settings, turn on auto update. Collect paycheck. Point fingers when something does break."

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– deleted 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I think you can switch off Microsoft updates? IDK about this Crowd strike thing.

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– deleted 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0
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– yeldarb1983 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Security breaches among other things have happened before through auto-updates

sometimes they're even accidental...

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– Galean 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I agree is just feels a lot of victim blaming while defending the culprit.

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– TomSeeSaw 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Tell me more

- Microsoft

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Auto updates are a good idea for the idiot consumer masses to keep them from shooting themselves in the foot. For anything server or business related, you want managed and vetted updates that roll out in a staggered manner to prevent exactly this.

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– yeldarb1983 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That's only true if you assume that the updates are always a good thing, and this crowstrike situation proves they are not.

and this was (presumably) an accident. What happens when a malicious actor intentionally puts a backdoor or other nasty surprise into an update?

and I wont even get into the elitism of "the idiot consumers" attitude, lol

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

For the use case of the clueless consumer, auto updates are better. The instant you start requiring a user to manage their own update process you are requiring a higher level of intelligence and proficiency than the vast majority of the population possesses. Given the choice, the idiot consumer will just never update and leave themselves wide open to malicious actors to do whatever they want with the victim's machine.

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– ailurus 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

It's not just an observations but along the lines of they are good and we need to continue doing business with them. It feels very odd and forced.

I mean, I'll agree on auto-updates being bad. But defending Crowdstrike isn't at all surprising for the usual suspects. After all, they were involved with helping the DNC and investigating the evils of Orange Man so they must be Good Guys.

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– NotCreativeName 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

But defending Crowdstrike isn't at all surprising for the usual suspects.

The usual suspects proving they're nothing more than bots. Since when pushing an update that break systems to the point manual intervention on every affected machine is needed was ever defensible, even if you have a severe case of TDS.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah btw I am very suspicious of software that gets deployed this widely that quickly puts this company into the S&P 500. With their stuff running live on so many computers. Someone said it was a dress rehearsal for a cyber attack. but they didn't say who would be making that attack.

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– WhitePhoenix 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Isn't it strange only Musk is the smart one to do this?

Remove Cloudstrike, replace it with a competitor.

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– NotCreativeName 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Isn't it strange only Musk is the smart one to do this?

As a company you wouldn't exactly scream publicly what security systems you have deployed/removed since hackers can just focus on not being detected by X or Y solution. Musk has the clout to harm Crowdstrike's rep even further by announcing this shit publicly(though the outage already took it to the dumps).

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– Questionable [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

☈: Musk Says He’s Deleted CrowdStrike From Systems After Outage.

☈: Elon Musk Deletes CrowdStrike "From All Systems,"

☈: Outages Explained – Possible Election Implications.

☒: Rolling The Curtains On Cabal.

☈: No coincidences here. Move along folks.

☒: Tech Experts Believe Outage Connected To Theft Of 2024 Election.

☒: The Crowdstrike Story so Far.

☒: An update on the Austin Private Wealth situation.

☈: Pelosi & husband invest up to $1 million in CrowdStrike.

☈: Julian Assange- Crowdstrike was hired by the DNC.

☈: 4Chan /pol/ | What is CrowdStrike.

☈: CROWDSTRIKE CODE INSERT?.

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– TomSeeSaw 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Wouldn't want to be part of the crowd on this one. Might be grounds for a tactical strike.

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