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Musk Says He’s Deleted CrowdStrike From Systems After Outage (www.bloomberg.com)
posted 1 year ago by Questionable 1 year ago by Questionable +69 / -0
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– yeldarb1983 35 points 1 year ago +35 / -0

not defending crowdstrike, but auto updates are a bad idea in my opinion.

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– GloboHomoErectus 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

I cannot fathom the man who auto updates nor the man who never updates.

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– Gizortnik 21 points 1 year ago +21 / -0

the man who never updates

He got burned by Microsoft XP's Service Pack 2 update from over a decade ago and decided it was never worth the risk if something's already working.

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– yeldarb1983 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

lol. I stopped updating when every single goddammn update was pushing win10 on me, and my machine literally could not upgrade ( I tried multiple times, and every time, it ended up rolling back).

Then I found out about the crap win10 was phoning home (and their bullshit excuse that it was just "telemetry data," which by the way is a meaningless phrase), and how they were going to force updates, and I said "fukkit, linux it is"

...and now I occasionally remember to update, lol.

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– Chillin_in_PNW 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Hey thats me!

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– BeefyBelisarius 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Has it really been a decade already?

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The war has been long, brother.

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– lapalapa 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

When it comes to servers and security, you want to update as soon as possible. If updates are frequent, there's no reason not to automatize it.

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– RoulerBleu 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

There is at least one reason to not automatize updating and it just happened.

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– deleted 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0
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– yeldarb1983 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

I disagree. in a business environment, you should be testing updates before you deploy company-wide, and this crowdstrike fiasco is a good reason why.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

It's all fun and games until the update somehow manages to break all of the network printer configurations.

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... continue reading thread?
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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

yeah so I'm not the master of large scale IT, but I do test my code on the h/w it's going to run on before I publish it. I'm not saying it's simple to do so given how many different configurations might be deployed. That's why I'm not the master of IT to tell you how to do that. But the principle is I think the same.

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– Gizortnik 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

You want to update by choice as soon as possible.

Auto-updating without consent creates downstream disasters, even security vulnerabilities. If I don't see release notes, I ain't updating.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Sure, except for the giant clusterfuck we’re talking about that happened just a couple days ago.

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– lapalapa 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Bad automatization software, I guess.

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– SR388-SAX 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Sysadmin For DEI hires:

"Install operating system and services with default settings, turn on auto update. Collect paycheck. Point fingers when something does break."

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– cccpneveragain 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Add in the part about convincing the company to buy every third-party security software suite who's sales guy takes you out to lunch. You should see an average business computer now, there's a stack of random security software, none of which that place nice with anything.

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– deleted 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I think you can switch off Microsoft updates? IDK about this Crowd strike thing.

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– deleted 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It looks like you're right that they don't make it available with the GUI, but you don't need regedit. Just disable services.msc ... they say. I have had Windows re-enable services before.

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– yeldarb1983 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Security breaches among other things have happened before through auto-updates

sometimes they're even accidental...

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– Galean 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I agree is just feels a lot of victim blaming while defending the culprit.

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– TomSeeSaw 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Tell me more

- Microsoft

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Auto updates are a good idea for the idiot consumer masses to keep them from shooting themselves in the foot. For anything server or business related, you want managed and vetted updates that roll out in a staggered manner to prevent exactly this.

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– yeldarb1983 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That's only true if you assume that the updates are always a good thing, and this crowstrike situation proves they are not.

and this was (presumably) an accident. What happens when a malicious actor intentionally puts a backdoor or other nasty surprise into an update?

and I wont even get into the elitism of "the idiot consumers" attitude, lol

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

For the use case of the clueless consumer, auto updates are better. The instant you start requiring a user to manage their own update process you are requiring a higher level of intelligence and proficiency than the vast majority of the population possesses. Given the choice, the idiot consumer will just never update and leave themselves wide open to malicious actors to do whatever they want with the victim's machine.

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