Absolutely need to keep our minds open to any possibility, but I won't believe it until I hear a reasonably plausible explanation. It will have to be much more plausible than the explanation I just heard of the Deep State wanting Trump to win now so they're trying to drum up support for him. As if a Trump win couldn't be effortlessly obtained by simply not fortifying the election this time.
Unless you mean orchestrated as in simply not being a lone wolf. Then yeah of course I think that would be the default assumption for most people.
By no means is the conclusion or goal clear, I’m just thinking that given that votes haven’t mattered in a long time, this is about shifting the popular consciousness. To what end, we can only speculate right now…This might be what finally gets Trump 4 years without the 24/7 railroading. This might be a mass dosing of anti-TDS horse paste. Or it might be something darker. I’m just saying, like you’ve echoed, we gotta keep our minds open to the whole set of possibility spaces
And ever since the CIA perfected the “voice of God” technology you can’t even trust the notion of the “lone wolf” these days lol
If we're talking deep state plans consider this: revenge assassination of Biden or some high ranking Dem that'll get pinned on MAGA. That would flip it all around and secure a win for the Dems.
Depending on how the details of the shooting pan out, but I presume the guy only managed to sneak a handgun in.
So if the plan was to aim to only deliver a flesh wound with a handgun at long range, as a false-assassination plan had a huge chance of becoming an accidental real-assissination because there ain't no way to guarantee that level of accuracy.
It was a dude who climbed up a roof behind the rally and had a clear shot with a rifle from around 150 yards away. Secret service fucked up big time, intentionally or unintentionally. Eye witness account is circulating on Twitter saying people were frantically pointing the shooter out to police for a couple minutes before he fired.
It was a guy on a nearby roof with a rifle mounted on a bipod, now dead. BBC interviewed someone who claims to have alerted police/secret service to his suspicious presence on the roof before the shooting began. More details:
Not a chance this was government orchestrated, no way would they have wanted to do it in such a fantastic way that his fans would martyr him. If the government were to kill him they'd spike his cheeseburger with heart attack juice or something plausible for a 76 year old fatty to die of.
The most plausible theory, imo, is that the deep state makes extensive use of AI and computer simulations, and that their models show a successful Trump assassination would trip a second civil war - one that they would ultimately lose. Otherwise, they’d just remove him from the board in one of a dozen untraceable and more reliable ways.
Think more along the lines of the people who give the orders to the people who give the orders to the nevertrumper retards in the unelected “deep” state
It's like how there are a bunch of flat earthers but very, very rarely do they ever manage to get as far as to build a flying contraption to prove the earth is flat, and get themselves killed due to their poor design.
I think it's a pretty straightforward assassination attempt, but it was probably just some looney doing it to "save democracy and trans mulattos of color from cheeto Hitler."
Establishment types have been warming to Trump as they finally acknowledge Biden's weakness, but a fake assassination is far too bold and risky.
Could be, but it doesn’t feel that simple to me. The thing to watch for will be softening media narratives on Trump. That will be as noticeable as their sudden shift on biden to feed him to the dogs, should it happen.
Softening? Sure. They don't need anything super fancy to get Biden out if that's what they want. Biden sucks too much. He's only gotten this far because they've been propping him up.
Like I mentioned to the other guy, I don’t think votes have mattered for a long time, and see this having occurred more as a means to shape perception than guide votes. Voting is just part of consenting to the deception imo. My point being, if the media changes their tunes overnight from their frothing mania to a more pleasant “give trumpeace a chance”, we will know (or atleast I’ll be convinced) that this was all part of the script
But they can't just shut off the crazy that easily. They've been hysterical over Trump for almost 10 years now so all that insanity doesn't just go away because they soften on him in the media.
Hence my fear of darker possible goals behind the day’s events, but we shouldn’t neglect the tendency of the masses to be told to ignore their lying eyes and actually listen to that command
Non-sequitor but I’m not one to dismiss possibilities out of hand.
On a related note, while watching the footage, I couldn’t help but notice the lady SS agent in the front kept ducking down while moving trump, leaving large parts of his face and chest exposed, in contrast to the male agents who were doing their best to cover him from all angles
Honestly, the reason why I humor you so much is because I think you get a lot right, up to a certain point where you draw a line in the sand and can’t imagine anything beyond it.
Yes, radical feminism has been used as a cudgel against western society/traditional values, but (prepare for the mindfuck): it isn’t women wielding that cudgel - it’s women being wielded, and more importantly that’s only one tool among many in the armament rack
Absolutely need to keep our minds open to any possibility, but I won't believe it until I hear a reasonably plausible explanation. It will have to be much more plausible than the explanation I just heard of the Deep State wanting Trump to win now so they're trying to drum up support for him. As if a Trump win couldn't be effortlessly obtained by simply not fortifying the election this time.
Unless you mean orchestrated as in simply not being a lone wolf. Then yeah of course I think that would be the default assumption for most people.
By no means is the conclusion or goal clear, I’m just thinking that given that votes haven’t mattered in a long time, this is about shifting the popular consciousness. To what end, we can only speculate right now…This might be what finally gets Trump 4 years without the 24/7 railroading. This might be a mass dosing of anti-TDS horse paste. Or it might be something darker. I’m just saying, like you’ve echoed, we gotta keep our minds open to the whole set of possibility spaces
And ever since the CIA perfected the “voice of God” technology you can’t even trust the notion of the “lone wolf” these days lol
If we're talking deep state plans consider this: revenge assassination of Biden or some high ranking Dem that'll get pinned on MAGA. That would flip it all around and secure a win for the Dems.
Not outside the realm of possibility
Depending on how the details of the shooting pan out, but I presume the guy only managed to sneak a handgun in.
So if the plan was to aim to only deliver a flesh wound with a handgun at long range, as a false-assassination plan had a huge chance of becoming an accidental real-assissination because there ain't no way to guarantee that level of accuracy.
It was a dude who climbed up a roof behind the rally and had a clear shot with a rifle from around 150 yards away. Secret service fucked up big time, intentionally or unintentionally. Eye witness account is circulating on Twitter saying people were frantically pointing the shooter out to police for a couple minutes before he fired.
Jesus, what a huge fuck up, wouldn't have thought them letting something like that slip through was even a possiblity.
It was a guy on a nearby roof with a rifle mounted on a bipod, now dead. BBC interviewed someone who claims to have alerted police/secret service to his suspicious presence on the roof before the shooting began. More details:
https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1812274936096178683
Not a chance this was government orchestrated, no way would they have wanted to do it in such a fantastic way that his fans would martyr him. If the government were to kill him they'd spike his cheeseburger with heart attack juice or something plausible for a 76 year old fatty to die of.
The most plausible theory, imo, is that the deep state makes extensive use of AI and computer simulations, and that their models show a successful Trump assassination would trip a second civil war - one that they would ultimately lose. Otherwise, they’d just remove him from the board in one of a dozen untraceable and more reliable ways.
Think more along the lines of the people who give the orders to the people who give the orders to the nevertrumper retards in the unelected “deep” state
It's like how there are a bunch of flat earthers but very, very rarely do they ever manage to get as far as to build a flying contraption to prove the earth is flat, and get themselves killed due to their poor design.
I think it's a pretty straightforward assassination attempt, but it was probably just some looney doing it to "save democracy and trans mulattos of color from cheeto Hitler."
Establishment types have been warming to Trump as they finally acknowledge Biden's weakness, but a fake assassination is far too bold and risky.
Could be, but it doesn’t feel that simple to me. The thing to watch for will be softening media narratives on Trump. That will be as noticeable as their sudden shift on biden to feed him to the dogs, should it happen.
Interesting times.
Softening? Sure. They don't need anything super fancy to get Biden out if that's what they want. Biden sucks too much. He's only gotten this far because they've been propping him up.
Like I mentioned to the other guy, I don’t think votes have mattered for a long time, and see this having occurred more as a means to shape perception than guide votes. Voting is just part of consenting to the deception imo. My point being, if the media changes their tunes overnight from their frothing mania to a more pleasant “give trumpeace a chance”, we will know (or atleast I’ll be convinced) that this was all part of the script
But they can't just shut off the crazy that easily. They've been hysterical over Trump for almost 10 years now so all that insanity doesn't just go away because they soften on him in the media.
Hence my fear of darker possible goals behind the day’s events, but we shouldn’t neglect the tendency of the masses to be told to ignore their lying eyes and actually listen to that command
I'm not letting go of the chance that Trump is 100% controlled op.
Back in 2016 I gave it a 90/10 split - 90% chance he is controlled opposition, 10% chance he’s legit.
Unfortunately, imo the chance he’s legit has only decreased since then, having shriveled to a near-nothingness by this point
Someone fucking died in the crowd, CuntPro. Show some slight decency.
You said this 20 minutes after the news broke lmao, ask Santa/grandma for a personal mirror this year champ
At least I didn't accuse some random Italian football fan. Poor guy will have a heart attack tomorrow.
KGJ literally said she'd do it. The entire description of what she said she was going to do matches what the shooter did.
Cool story bro.
Stop projecting your own flaws onto others if you want people to take you seriously
Story is building up that female director of Secret Service refused Trump's request for extra security.
Sure you want to dismiss the gender motive?
Non-sequitor but I’m not one to dismiss possibilities out of hand.
On a related note, while watching the footage, I couldn’t help but notice the lady SS agent in the front kept ducking down while moving trump, leaving large parts of his face and chest exposed, in contrast to the male agents who were doing their best to cover him from all angles
Valerie Solanas said to take control of the institutions and turn them against the "male oppressors".
It's past time for the threat to be taken seriously. Pretending Solanas was just a lunatic is helping nobody.
Honestly, the reason why I humor you so much is because I think you get a lot right, up to a certain point where you draw a line in the sand and can’t imagine anything beyond it.
Yes, radical feminism has been used as a cudgel against western society/traditional values, but (prepare for the mindfuck): it isn’t women wielding that cudgel - it’s women being wielded, and more importantly that’s only one tool among many in the armament rack
I'm already bored of you again.
You're such a disingenuous faggot.
Edit: To clarify, you were wrong so you're trying to brow-beat others with faux indignation.
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I mean he is, but I don't think that's a rule violation.