Most French supported the letter of the generals. Unfortunately, they are in the same position as Americans, with a corrupt elite having a stranglehold on the country.
Democracy doesn't function. Only a constitutional republic does. Giving every breathing zombie a vote just makes it easier to hide fraud under the guise of mass stupidity. "See they voted for this". No, in fact we did not. But people will believe it, because it is easy to believe that the loud fools are actually the majority.
I thought the parliamentary system was superior to the Ameriburger two-party system?
France's system is like America's, except with run-off voting which is why you have several Uniparties rather than just two.
Proportional representation is generally what results in multiparty systems, not parliamentary.
Anyway, I'm not resolved on which system is more garbage. Our problem is that the Mitt Romney supporter types are not forced into a binary choice, but can vote for a "center-right" (means far-left in Europe) party, which is why it's very hard to get to 51% for anyone remotely decent. On the other hand, when you do get to 51% with the Mitt Romneys, you can't get anything done either. We're screwed no mater what happens.
France's system is like America's, except with run-off voting
Not even remotely close. A Prime Minister is nothing like a President and the process of "forming a government" looks like nothing we're familiar with.
Critically.. the President cannot "dissolve the legislature."
I don't know why Disclose.tv posts "breaking" news headlines with no context or details. Here's a story by AFP.
Macron Calls Snap Legislative Elections In France
French President Emmanuel Macron on Sunday announced he was dissolving parliament and called snap legislative elections after the far-right trounced his centrist alliance in EU polls. The first round of elections for the lower house National Assembly will take place on June 30, with the second round on July 7, Macron announced in an address to the nation. The outcome of the EU elections, he acknowledged, is "not a good result for parties who defend Europe." Macron noted that, including the top scoring National Rally (RN), far-right parties in France managed to take almost 40 percent of the vote in the EU elections in France.
"Far right parties... are progressing everywhere in the continent. It is a situation to which I cannot resign myself," he said. "I decided to give you the choice... Therefore I will dissolve the National Assembly tonight. This decision is serious and heavy but it is an act of confidence. Confidence in you, dear compatriots, and in the capacity of the French people to make the best choice for itself and future generations."
The RN's list, led by Jordan Bardella, 28, gained between 32.3 and 33 percent of the vote compared with 14.8 to 15.2 percent for Macron's alliance led by his Renaissance party, according to projections from several polling firms.
Macron warned Thursday that the EU risked being "blocked" by a big far-right presence in the European Parliament after this week's elections. The election results also mark a critical moment as eyes turn to France's 2027 presidential vote where Macron cannot stand again and RN figurehead Marine Le Pen fancies she has her best-ever chance of winning the Elysee Palace.
Or in other words, he saw that his stock was crashing, but not QUITE below 50% yet, so he called a flash-election while he still had a chance of winning, rather than wait a year and guarantee that he'd be destroyed.
no he calls a flash election so that the opposition can "win" and is left holding the bag when shit goes south as a result of his retarded policies. then, with the RN discredited, the globohomo will roll out the next young gay upstart to sweep the presidential election in 2027.
he could even "resign in protest" some time before the end of his term. and then use that to claim he can run again, since he didnt do his two constitutionally allowed terms. that woulnd be a very flimsy constitutional justification, but since when do globohomo care about constitutions?
Wait, so citizens voted for "get rid of the foreigners" and Macron's response is to dissolve the government in order to continue bringing in foreigners?
According to exit polls, Le Pen's party got more than twice as much as Macron's, even though Zemmour also got 5.5%. Definitely a shift towards populism.
Greens lost big, Macron lost big, the "center-right" went from being a non-entity to remaining one The only ones who gained are the right-wing populists and left-wing populists (who in France are unfortunately pro-Islam, they're no Sarah Wagenknecht).
The most important question remaining is whether Zemmour will get 5%. Otherwise, all his votes will be lost, and that'd be a bloody shame.
Don't get your hopes up. The same people are still in charge of the EU. German voters still massively vote for their own demise. Von der Leyen is still on top of it all. The same unelected NGOs still control EU courts.The same unelected bureaucrats run things. The EU parliament is still a pseudo-democratic fig leaf that has very little power in the EU.
Absolute best case it'll take decades to change anything.
So when American lefties warn us about Trump getting rid of the legislative body and ruling by fiat, they were projecting what their franco counterpart decided to do?
He's not governing by fiat... this time. The (impotent) legislature will remain in place until a new one is elected.
Now, the French constitution is about as authoritarian as it gets. So Macron actually has been ruling by fiat, like the Weimar Constitution allowed the president to rule by decree. He's allowed to rule by decree and the only way that can be stopped is if the French parliament adopts a vote of no confidence in the government. That is actually how he raised the retirement age.
President Emmanuel Macron, worried that France’s Parliament would not approve a fiercely contested bill raising the retirement age to 64 from 62, opted to ram the legislation through on Thursday without a full parliamentary vote
The government used a measure, known as the 49.3 after the relevant article of the Constitution, that allows certain bills to be passed without a vote. Opposition lawmakers now have 24 hours to file a no-confidence motion and have vowed to do so.
If the no-confidence motion is rejected, the bill stands and becomes the law of the land. If the no-confidence motion passes, Mr. Macron’s prime minister and cabinet have to resign and the bill is rejected.
Well, unless these elections are rigged, I don't see why they wouldn't reflect the rightward shift in overall voting that threatens to replace Macron with LePen.
I knew this would happen eventually. The farmer's revolt was just the first act. Now, the anger over uncontrolled immigration ought to be the end of Macaroon and whatever party he's associated with.
I find the adjective "far" transparently stupid. As if everyone hasn't realized its intent.
Anything that damages the EU or weakens its power (except the advancement of a large Muslim voting bloc) is fine with me.
Have the French decided that they want to exist? That they don't want to be buried in mud slimes until they're raped into submission?
Build the French Wall, deport them all.
Most French supported the letter of the generals. Unfortunately, they are in the same position as Americans, with a corrupt elite having a stranglehold on the country.
I thought the parliamentary system was superior to the Ameriburger two-party system? Why don't you fags just VOTE HARDER?
Democracy doesn't function. Only a constitutional republic does. Giving every breathing zombie a vote just makes it easier to hide fraud under the guise of mass stupidity. "See they voted for this". No, in fact we did not. But people will believe it, because it is easy to believe that the loud fools are actually the majority.
And not just fraudulent votes, but fraudulent parties that don't represent their constituents.
France's system is like America's, except with run-off voting which is why you have several Uniparties rather than just two.
Proportional representation is generally what results in multiparty systems, not parliamentary.
Anyway, I'm not resolved on which system is more garbage. Our problem is that the Mitt Romney supporter types are not forced into a binary choice, but can vote for a "center-right" (means far-left in Europe) party, which is why it's very hard to get to 51% for anyone remotely decent. On the other hand, when you do get to 51% with the Mitt Romneys, you can't get anything done either. We're screwed no mater what happens.
Not even remotely close. A Prime Minister is nothing like a President and the process of "forming a government" looks like nothing we're familiar with.
Critically.. the President cannot "dissolve the legislature."
The President is like the President...
You know what Macron is, right?
This is correct. I was talking about the way the members of the legislature are elected. It's not proportional like in many European countries.
kek
Maginot Line, anyone?
I don't know why Disclose.tv posts "breaking" news headlines with no context or details. Here's a story by AFP.
No news site has anything worth paying for, especially since all of them crib everything from their government handlers.
Or in other words, he saw that his stock was crashing, but not QUITE below 50% yet, so he called a flash-election while he still had a chance of winning, rather than wait a year and guarantee that he'd be destroyed.
I am not familiar with the French system, but don't they have to have reform the legislative majority after big electoral shifts?
no he calls a flash election so that the opposition can "win" and is left holding the bag when shit goes south as a result of his retarded policies. then, with the RN discredited, the globohomo will roll out the next young gay upstart to sweep the presidential election in 2027.
he could even "resign in protest" some time before the end of his term. and then use that to claim he can run again, since he didnt do his two constitutionally allowed terms. that woulnd be a very flimsy constitutional justification, but since when do globohomo care about constitutions?
Wait, so citizens voted for "get rid of the foreigners" and Macron's response is to dissolve the government in order to continue bringing in foreigners?
The government is his own. He dissolved parliament, or rather, called for early elections.
According to exit polls, Le Pen's party got more than twice as much as Macron's, even though Zemmour also got 5.5%. Definitely a shift towards populism.
Greens lost big, Macron lost big, the "center-right" went from being a non-entity to remaining one The only ones who gained are the right-wing populists and left-wing populists (who in France are unfortunately pro-Islam, they're no Sarah Wagenknecht).
The most important question remaining is whether Zemmour will get 5%. Otherwise, all his votes will be lost, and that'd be a bloody shame.
With all her flaws, Le Pen is the only one who made her party remotely viable by disowning her toxic father.
Zemmour has my support, but that's simply because he's more based.
she's a zionist, you know
So are all the others, so that's just a baseline.
“Everyone is a Zionist so there’s no point fighting it.”
“Why don’t things ever change?”
"Let your continent be overrun with raping savages, because Jewish State Bad."
“Let your government be overrun by hostile foreign elites because Islam bad.”
It’s not a binary choice.
That's a weird bit of realpolitik. The far right is resurgent, but can't have someone too based. I'm not even complaining; I just don't understand it.
based
Don't get your hopes up. The same people are still in charge of the EU. German voters still massively vote for their own demise. Von der Leyen is still on top of it all. The same unelected NGOs still control EU courts.The same unelected bureaucrats run things. The EU parliament is still a pseudo-democratic fig leaf that has very little power in the EU.
Absolute best case it'll take decades to change anything.
So when American lefties warn us about Trump getting rid of the legislative body and ruling by fiat, they were projecting what their franco counterpart decided to do?
He's not governing by fiat... this time. The (impotent) legislature will remain in place until a new one is elected.
Now, the French constitution is about as authoritarian as it gets. So Macron actually has been ruling by fiat, like the Weimar Constitution allowed the president to rule by decree. He's allowed to rule by decree and the only way that can be stopped is if the French parliament adopts a vote of no confidence in the government. That is actually how he raised the retirement age.
You can thank Charles de Gaulle for that.
Leftists always project what they actually want to do.
Didnt think he would do that and ride it as long as possible as he can stay in power. At least he saved a little face with that.
Well, unless these elections are rigged, I don't see why they wouldn't reflect the rightward shift in overall voting that threatens to replace Macron with LePen.
I knew this would happen eventually. The farmer's revolt was just the first act. Now, the anger over uncontrolled immigration ought to be the end of Macaroon and whatever party he's associated with.
I find the adjective "far" transparently stupid. As if everyone hasn't realized its intent.
Anything that damages the EU or weakens its power (except the advancement of a large Muslim voting bloc) is fine with me.