There was a line specifically about this in Starship Troopers. Can't remember it one hundred percent, but it was something about how pacifism will inevitably get stamped out by those willing to use violence. The line was something like "Those who swear they aren't going to fight war no more, will find themselves killed by those who still fight".
yep.. the right wants to be left alone and go bunker down on their property.. but as more and more of your friends/families/neighbors get brainwashed or taken out, you will be alone.
I hate fucking hate this shit, The left is the one pushing, yet god fucking forbid the right even makes a funny chud meme, NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BEND OVER DIE THEN MAYBE THE LEFT WILL STOP (they won’t, ever until you are dead).
The hard part is Order does not have a win condition, Chaos does.
If they get faggot flags on every crosswalk then they will move on to gay porn on every crosswalk, then child porn on every crosswalk, then child sacrifice to Satan on every crosswalk, then something worse.
Not having faggotry everywhere isnt something that rallies the troops.
This sounds like blackpiller talk, we can win and that's been self evident this year with the amount of infighting and backfires the left have suffered.
The thing is that you can't release the pressure, that doesn't mean copying the same tactics as the left like protesting and being a whiney bitch, it's more effective to just deny patronage to the businesses that pander to them, buying direct from farmers, always voting even if it's to spoil to deny them using your name on the ballot printers etc.
Everyone doing just these little things will put enough pressure on the system that it'll break.
Do you know how women defend themselves through words and social pressures? By the knowledge and implication that her boyfriend/dad/cousin/etc will kick your ass if you kick it up an additional level. Heck, the very existence of MAD is another example.
Certain tactics only work when combined with other tactics, even if only in threat. If they know we will never "escalate" to their level, they will forever feel completely comfortable sitting at it. Like a bully punching a nerd in the face knowing the kid can never hurt him.
Shit KIA was founded on emailing advertisers, literally one of the most basic forms of cancelling someone. It was banned because it became so effective the admins forced us to stop.
Hell that tactic is STILL effective, Amazon might have dropped their 40K show because of fans writing to them to either not do it or put Cavill in charge.
The "win" condition is to ensure all the busybodies and commissars have no power. Trading the woke left for the religious right just means more of the same.
the religious right didn't just include christianity though. There was a lot of jewish and mormon influence as well.
depends. I don't consider religious wars or heretic burnings to be indicators of "good society". A religious society can indeed be a good one, bit it's not guaranteed.
Every society that has ever existed has had some kind of cultural enforcement, including America in its 19th century heyday. This would be what you refer to as busybodies. Church ladies shunning whores, small towns freezing out degenerates, people looking suspiciously at outsiders. Aid societies, music societies, temperance societies. Was the enforcement perfect? No. But it was necessary. Wishing for a society without an order is as fantastical as communism. That society cannot exist.
I mostly agree with your thesis, I simply believe a society can exist without people going out of their way to be tattletales and narcs. People have bent the rules of society without causing harm since the dawn of man. trying to stamp out all dissent and deviance for the sake of stamping out dissent and deviance is just totalitarianism.
non-Christians don't distinguish between Christian denominations. The ones that hate Christians hate all of them and only stand down for the fake Christians who promote faggotry like unitarians.
Find me evidence of reasonably popular atheists speaking out against judaism. I would be happy to be pleasantly surprised if you did but I was in that sphere for a while and can't think of a single one. There are a lot of ethnically jewish or with jewish last names atheists who are rabidly against Chistiantiy and Islam.
Religious wars and heretic burnings? In last 500 years? Maybe in Africa because they are retarded but not in the West. Only jews let grudges that old affect their worldview.
Let's see if you can show me any reasonably popular atheists who are also against faggotry. Because from what I've seen the argument comes down to "If God exists why do I like it in the butt?"
You want an elaborate rebuttal to your retarded post? I'll give you one.
Firstly, in response to the claim that the religious right includes Judaism and mormonism, you claim that people do not differentiate between denominations. Judaism is not a denomination of christianity, and Mormonism considers itself an evolution of Christianity as they believe Joseph Smith is the new Messiah. these are not denominations, they are other religions. I will even expand it to say that Islam would happily join the American religious right if it gained a significant foothold.
Secondly, the claim
The ones that hate Christians hate all of them and only stand down for the fake Christians who promote faggotry like unitarians.
Is really only true in blue hell holes and online dead-Internet spaces. if you talk to an actual, flesh and blood atheist about their atheism, they will tell you how they don't believe in "fairy tales", and would likely go into a rant about all of the different Wars and killings that have happens because of said "fairy tales". they would tell you this regardless of if you are defending christianity, islam, buddhism, satanism, whatever. the core fundamental belief of an atheist is that there is no God. whether or not that's true is beside the point.
Thirdly, you asked me to find evidence of a so-called popular atheist who speaks out against Judaism. Why? who gives a shit about what popular people think? popular people are retarded. Unironically get off the internet, turn off the tv, and touch grass. you will find real people have much more nuanced takes on all these things.
Fourthly, in regards to heretic burnings and religious wars in the modern west, one need only look at the KKK, the IRA, the Zionists, HAMAS, ISIS, etc. All of these movements have operated in the West.
Sixthly, regarding the claim
Only jews let grudges that old affect their worldview.
one word: Islam.
finally, you repeat yourself at the end by asking me to find a so-called popular atheist to which I will repeat my earlier rebuttal: popular people are retarded and are not worth your time.
Show me a tyrant that has brought anything but ruin. You didn't grow up, you're just a lazy, cowardly low t faggot craving for a master to serve.
For the record I am not a libertarian. I am a constitutionalist. I don't believe in entirely unregulated international trade or open borders.
The idea that the choice is between libertarianism and being a cuck leftist begging for an authoritarian ruler to save you, instead of trying to save your country yourself, is false, pathetic, wormlike stupidity.
Hitler held power and devastated his country because as a leftist tyrant he cared only for his personal expansion of power. Leftists don't care what they have to exploit they get it, only that they do. And only ruin follows.
Seriously, why do you dim faggots actually try that line? Oh he stopped weimar. And then he sided with the commies to carve up eastern europe and picked a fight with the whole world out of megalomania. Then he fired his best generals and fought the soviets at the same time, because he thought he was a genius, when he was actually just a leftist drunk on power.
LOOK AT GERMANY NOW. You think that's something to be proud of? He DESTROYED his nation and people. Every retarded simp for hitler should be penned up inside Germany. Goblins that lust for a boot on their neck to save them from having to actually do anything themselves don't belong to free nations.
To quote Samuel Adams, who was a hundred times the man Hitler was, or any of you wehraboo trash will ever be
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you."
LOOK AT GERMANY NOW. You think that's something to be proud of? He DESTROYED his nation and people.
Said every narcissist ever. "YOU MADE ME DO IT". It was the United States enforcing its will upon foreign nations that neither voted for the US's boot or asked for it.
No one is afraid of you because you cannot force your views on people without violating those same views. You do not have a self consistent philosophy, only whining about how the universe should work, and no conception of how it does work.
Said every narcissist ever. "YOU MADE ME DO IT". It was the United States enforcing its will upon foreign nations that neither voted for the US's boot or asked for it.
Well, it was also Hitler enforcing his will on foreign nations. If lebensraum wasn't such a big deal to him then things probably would've gone better, or if he had more respect for the USSR's assets. But the guy who declared a thousand-year reich didn't have the most sober geopolitics.
Ditto for Japan and their East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.
Nobody made hitler destroy his nation. He declared war, he picked every fight. He also destroyed his own military efforts. Guderian brought the Germans their early advantage with his decades of work. Rommel is the only reason they had success in the regions assigned to him. Hitler fired Guderian and Rommel was a threat to Hitler's rule and was killed. You don't know history and your post entirely failed to address mine, only being a craven, pathetic "no u".
Get ye gone to europe with the rest of the cucks. It is YOU who has NO conception of how the world works. You dream of a perfect, benevolent authoritarian king to rule you, to save you wih divine intervention. You are the exact idiotic shock-troop that makes up the "useful idiot" class of the bolsheviks. You seek god on earth instead of in heaven.
You stand against every founding principle of the US and claim that free men can't win anything, in stark denial of historical fact. You would have been a british loyalist, and as such your opinions have no value, you cuck.
If you refuse to use power, it will eventually end up in the hands of people who will use it, often against you. Which is how we ended up in this clown world dystopia.
it's not about refusing to use power, it's using power responsibly and correctly. my thesis is simply that power can be used to stamp out authoritarianism. this worked well for the United states, as the authoritarians had to creep into the institutions over centuries for things to get as bad as they are today. compared to other dictatorships or monarchies, that's a very long and drawn-out turnaround. the only reason things are this bad is because the checks and balances against individuals obtaining power had cracks, and we didn't take the time to fill them.
Here we see the local Pajeet street shitter, trying to push pedophilia like he always does. So retarded that he has to inject his pro pedophile bullshit into a thread where it couldn't be less relevant.
How many accounts do you suppose this tard has made now? I know the number is too high for him to remember, but I think I've seen at least a dozen of his accounts now. Each with a handshake and all of them salty that the women of his kind prefer Whites over his retarded ass.
All this ensures is that the Cold War continues. Just give up already and let the left win!
"stop fighting back, you're just creating a culture war!"
Culture wars only last so long. Then they stop being culture wars.
There was a line specifically about this in Starship Troopers. Can't remember it one hundred percent, but it was something about how pacifism will inevitably get stamped out by those willing to use violence. The line was something like "Those who swear they aren't going to fight war no more, will find themselves killed by those who still fight".
Or, similar line from Lord of the Rings, "those without swords can still die on them"
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
yep.. the right wants to be left alone and go bunker down on their property.. but as more and more of your friends/families/neighbors get brainwashed or taken out, you will be alone.
I hate fucking hate this shit, The left is the one pushing, yet god fucking forbid the right even makes a funny chud meme, NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BEND OVER DIE THEN MAYBE THE LEFT WILL STOP (they won’t, ever until you are dead).
The hard part is Order does not have a win condition, Chaos does.
If they get faggot flags on every crosswalk then they will move on to gay porn on every crosswalk, then child porn on every crosswalk, then child sacrifice to Satan on every crosswalk, then something worse.
Not having faggotry everywhere isnt something that rallies the troops.
This sounds like blackpiller talk, we can win and that's been self evident this year with the amount of infighting and backfires the left have suffered.
The thing is that you can't release the pressure, that doesn't mean copying the same tactics as the left like protesting and being a whiney bitch, it's more effective to just deny patronage to the businesses that pander to them, buying direct from farmers, always voting even if it's to spoil to deny them using your name on the ballot printers etc.
Everyone doing just these little things will put enough pressure on the system that it'll break.
Do you know how women defend themselves through words and social pressures? By the knowledge and implication that her boyfriend/dad/cousin/etc will kick your ass if you kick it up an additional level. Heck, the very existence of MAD is another example.
Certain tactics only work when combined with other tactics, even if only in threat. If they know we will never "escalate" to their level, they will forever feel completely comfortable sitting at it. Like a bully punching a nerd in the face knowing the kid can never hurt him.
Shit KIA was founded on emailing advertisers, literally one of the most basic forms of cancelling someone. It was banned because it became so effective the admins forced us to stop.
Hell that tactic is STILL effective, Amazon might have dropped their 40K show because of fans writing to them to either not do it or put Cavill in charge.
The "win" condition is to ensure all the busybodies and commissars have no power. Trading the woke left for the religious right just means more of the same.
Stop saying "religious" when you mean Christian. Atheism in a western country is just anti-Christianity.
Christianity produces a good society. Gay race communism produces a bad society.
Are there any atheists that aren't giant faggots?
the religious right didn't just include christianity though. There was a lot of jewish and mormon influence as well.
depends. I don't consider religious wars or heretic burnings to be indicators of "good society". A religious society can indeed be a good one, bit it's not guaranteed.
Yes, I know several.
Every society that has ever existed has had some kind of cultural enforcement, including America in its 19th century heyday. This would be what you refer to as busybodies. Church ladies shunning whores, small towns freezing out degenerates, people looking suspiciously at outsiders. Aid societies, music societies, temperance societies. Was the enforcement perfect? No. But it was necessary. Wishing for a society without an order is as fantastical as communism. That society cannot exist.
I mostly agree with your thesis, I simply believe a society can exist without people going out of their way to be tattletales and narcs. People have bent the rules of society without causing harm since the dawn of man. trying to stamp out all dissent and deviance for the sake of stamping out dissent and deviance is just totalitarianism.
non-Christians don't distinguish between Christian denominations. The ones that hate Christians hate all of them and only stand down for the fake Christians who promote faggotry like unitarians.
Find me evidence of reasonably popular atheists speaking out against judaism. I would be happy to be pleasantly surprised if you did but I was in that sphere for a while and can't think of a single one. There are a lot of ethnically jewish or with jewish last names atheists who are rabidly against Chistiantiy and Islam.
Religious wars and heretic burnings? In last 500 years? Maybe in Africa because they are retarded but not in the West. Only jews let grudges that old affect their worldview.
Let's see if you can show me any reasonably popular atheists who are also against faggotry. Because from what I've seen the argument comes down to "If God exists why do I like it in the butt?"
go outside
I accept your surrender
You want an elaborate rebuttal to your retarded post? I'll give you one.
Firstly, in response to the claim that the religious right includes Judaism and mormonism, you claim that people do not differentiate between denominations. Judaism is not a denomination of christianity, and Mormonism considers itself an evolution of Christianity as they believe Joseph Smith is the new Messiah. these are not denominations, they are other religions. I will even expand it to say that Islam would happily join the American religious right if it gained a significant foothold.
Secondly, the claim
Is really only true in blue hell holes and online dead-Internet spaces. if you talk to an actual, flesh and blood atheist about their atheism, they will tell you how they don't believe in "fairy tales", and would likely go into a rant about all of the different Wars and killings that have happens because of said "fairy tales". they would tell you this regardless of if you are defending christianity, islam, buddhism, satanism, whatever. the core fundamental belief of an atheist is that there is no God. whether or not that's true is beside the point.
Thirdly, you asked me to find evidence of a so-called popular atheist who speaks out against Judaism. Why? who gives a shit about what popular people think? popular people are retarded. Unironically get off the internet, turn off the tv, and touch grass. you will find real people have much more nuanced takes on all these things.
Fourthly, in regards to heretic burnings and religious wars in the modern west, one need only look at the KKK, the IRA, the Zionists, HAMAS, ISIS, etc. All of these movements have operated in the West.
Sixthly, regarding the claim
one word: Islam.
finally, you repeat yourself at the end by asking me to find a so-called popular atheist to which I will repeat my earlier rebuttal: popular people are retarded and are not worth your time.
I'm not a religious right sort, I'd much prefer a secular NS goverment, but any jackboot on these subhumans throats is good enough for me.
The boot remains. "But it's OUR GUY stepping on our throat!". No. All would be tyrants deserve is a rope and a free subscription to knots monthly.
I was also a lolbert until I grew up.
Show me a tyrant that has brought anything but ruin. You didn't grow up, you're just a lazy, cowardly low t faggot craving for a master to serve.
For the record I am not a libertarian. I am a constitutionalist. I don't believe in entirely unregulated international trade or open borders.
The idea that the choice is between libertarianism and being a cuck leftist begging for an authoritarian ruler to save you, instead of trying to save your country yourself, is false, pathetic, wormlike stupidity.
Hitler held power and used it against the wicked, that's the aim, We can all see what happens without authority to put a stop to evil.
Hitler held power and devastated his country because as a leftist tyrant he cared only for his personal expansion of power. Leftists don't care what they have to exploit they get it, only that they do. And only ruin follows.
Seriously, why do you dim faggots actually try that line? Oh he stopped weimar. And then he sided with the commies to carve up eastern europe and picked a fight with the whole world out of megalomania. Then he fired his best generals and fought the soviets at the same time, because he thought he was a genius, when he was actually just a leftist drunk on power.
LOOK AT GERMANY NOW. You think that's something to be proud of? He DESTROYED his nation and people. Every retarded simp for hitler should be penned up inside Germany. Goblins that lust for a boot on their neck to save them from having to actually do anything themselves don't belong to free nations.
To quote Samuel Adams, who was a hundred times the man Hitler was, or any of you wehraboo trash will ever be
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you."
Said every narcissist ever. "YOU MADE ME DO IT". It was the United States enforcing its will upon foreign nations that neither voted for the US's boot or asked for it.
No one is afraid of you because you cannot force your views on people without violating those same views. You do not have a self consistent philosophy, only whining about how the universe should work, and no conception of how it does work.
Well, it was also Hitler enforcing his will on foreign nations. If lebensraum wasn't such a big deal to him then things probably would've gone better, or if he had more respect for the USSR's assets. But the guy who declared a thousand-year reich didn't have the most sober geopolitics.
Ditto for Japan and their East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.
Nobody made hitler destroy his nation. He declared war, he picked every fight. He also destroyed his own military efforts. Guderian brought the Germans their early advantage with his decades of work. Rommel is the only reason they had success in the regions assigned to him. Hitler fired Guderian and Rommel was a threat to Hitler's rule and was killed. You don't know history and your post entirely failed to address mine, only being a craven, pathetic "no u".
Get ye gone to europe with the rest of the cucks. It is YOU who has NO conception of how the world works. You dream of a perfect, benevolent authoritarian king to rule you, to save you wih divine intervention. You are the exact idiotic shock-troop that makes up the "useful idiot" class of the bolsheviks. You seek god on earth instead of in heaven.
You stand against every founding principle of the US and claim that free men can't win anything, in stark denial of historical fact. You would have been a british loyalist, and as such your opinions have no value, you cuck.
If you refuse to use power, it will eventually end up in the hands of people who will use it, often against you. Which is how we ended up in this clown world dystopia.
it's not about refusing to use power, it's using power responsibly and correctly. my thesis is simply that power can be used to stamp out authoritarianism. this worked well for the United states, as the authoritarians had to creep into the institutions over centuries for things to get as bad as they are today. compared to other dictatorships or monarchies, that's a very long and drawn-out turnaround. the only reason things are this bad is because the checks and balances against individuals obtaining power had cracks, and we didn't take the time to fill them.
At least when Jehovah's Witnesses come around to prosthelytize I can shut the door or off them some coffee or energy drinks and they'll go away.
These alphabetpedo cultists do NOT stop.
Having Jesus cirrect my spelling seems like a waste of His time to me, but clearly I need it.
Here we see the local Pajeet street shitter, trying to push pedophilia like he always does. So retarded that he has to inject his pro pedophile bullshit into a thread where it couldn't be less relevant.
How many accounts do you suppose this tard has made now? I know the number is too high for him to remember, but I think I've seen at least a dozen of his accounts now. Each with a handshake and all of them salty that the women of his kind prefer Whites over his retarded ass.
One day, he'll get to find out what being the bottom is like as Bubba explores his prison wallet.