I am having a hard time thinking of many non lolis, Sakuya comes to mind, a lot are very much ones where you can argue and most are outright lolis. You're not a touhou fan if you hate the lolis, it's like saying you like a nice turkey dinner but then complain about the turkey and only want mashed potato's.
Ran, Yukari, and Keine come to mind, plus the tengu girls and definitely Byakuren. Not to detract from your point; I very much agree that lolis are a core part of the touhou fandom.
Guess my focus is different with touhou, my favorites are ones like Flandre and especially bestest of girls Suika. There are non lolis there, it's just that the ones I like the most are usually part of the loli group. Recently played a fun slay the spire style game with touhou and that made me interested in it all over again
To be fair, I like animes that contain loli characters, and almost always believe everything would be better if those characters were not lolis. So it's not an inherent contradiction.
Also, that "fvq" guy's tweet is so poorly worded I don't know what side he comes down on, but here's a rule of thumb:
"Free Speech Extremist" followed by Chad Yes? Hell yeah, you're alright!
"Free Speech Extremist" used as a dismissive pejorative? Go fuck yourself, you censorious little cretin.
Free speech "extremism" is the only real form of free speech.
I disagree with your part about making the characters better if they were not loli. Some characters just need to be for story reasons.
In general I think loli is just a nice canary in the coal mine, if people complain about it you know that they are tourists. Loli is also a great gatekeeping tool. Blue Archive gatekeeps itself by catering strongly to the lolicon demographic (though they're not the only ones that enjoy it).
I disagree with your part about making the characters better if they were not loli. Some characters just need to be for story reasons.
Agreed, and there are cute (nonsexual) "lolis," but there are also plenty of over the top, obnoxious and more sexualized lolis that, at least for my own enjoyment, would be better of as not lolis. Not saying there are no good lolis, just that some animes I enjoy in spite of them.
In general I think loli is just a nice canary in the coal mine...
there are also plenty of over the top, obnoxious and more sexualized lolis that, at least for my own enjoyment, would be better of as not lolis
Very fair, not everyone likes that and some is indeed over the top. The usual people hate ALL lolis, doesn't matter if its from CGDCT anime which have 0 sexualisation or something like monogatari.
I don't think I've ever actually heard someone say they're against free speech. But I can't count the number of times I've head "Of course I support free speech, but that doesn't include..."
To be fair, I like animes that contain loli characters, and almost always believe everything would be better if those characters were not lolis. So it's not an inherent contradiction.
Made In Abyss still has probably some of the best art and worldbuilding in manga ever, and I genuinely wish to explore its world more.
Unfortunately its main cast looks like it does, and not even in a "irrelevant artstyle distinction" way but in an actual "the children are nude and getting stripped" way, which makes it impossible to talk about or even enjoy at times.
Are they whining? It's a textless post with two attached images. Are they agreeing or disagreeing with the text in the first image? Ironically or unironically? Is the second image a reaction? If so, what does "be so for real" mean? This is fucking hieroglyphics.
How can you even understand what is being communicated here, let alone feel angry enough about it to repost?
Not to mention the lack of archiving of said posts, that more and more often these days go <poof> without a trace.
If there is one thing I'll give "New Zealand Acres" credit for, it is their "ALWAYS ARCHIVE" (caps intended) mentality, something that KIA2 used to have in spades but has severely slipped more recently (considering our beginnings), and I wish people would understand such a lack of discipline has wider consequences (some of which I've posted about already).
these kinds of posts are meant to bait out a response, the best course of action is to simply ignore them, even going to call them a faggot is going to give them what they want (attention)
Is your argument really as retarded as it sounds? Are you actually calling them a hypocrite for distinguishing between liking child characters and being sexually attracted to child characters?
Touhou tourist you mean?
Several? More like the whole damn cast.
I am having a hard time thinking of many non lolis, Sakuya comes to mind, a lot are very much ones where you can argue and most are outright lolis. You're not a touhou fan if you hate the lolis, it's like saying you like a nice turkey dinner but then complain about the turkey and only want mashed potato's.
Ran, Yukari, and Keine come to mind, plus the tengu girls and definitely Byakuren. Not to detract from your point; I very much agree that lolis are a core part of the touhou fandom.
Guess my focus is different with touhou, my favorites are ones like Flandre and especially bestest of girls Suika. There are non lolis there, it's just that the ones I like the most are usually part of the loli group. Recently played a fun slay the spire style game with touhou and that made me interested in it all over again
Suika has handlebars and reins :P
Also Flan’s wings are sweet
Sakuya has pa-KNIFED
To be fair, I like animes that contain loli characters, and almost always believe everything would be better if those characters were not lolis. So it's not an inherent contradiction.
Also, that "fvq" guy's tweet is so poorly worded I don't know what side he comes down on, but here's a rule of thumb:
"Free Speech Extremist" followed by Chad Yes? Hell yeah, you're alright!
"Free Speech Extremist" used as a dismissive pejorative? Go fuck yourself, you censorious little cretin.
Free speech "extremism" is the only real form of free speech.
I disagree with your part about making the characters better if they were not loli. Some characters just need to be for story reasons.
In general I think loli is just a nice canary in the coal mine, if people complain about it you know that they are tourists. Loli is also a great gatekeeping tool. Blue Archive gatekeeps itself by catering strongly to the lolicon demographic (though they're not the only ones that enjoy it).
Agreed, and there are cute (nonsexual) "lolis," but there are also plenty of over the top, obnoxious and more sexualized lolis that, at least for my own enjoyment, would be better of as not lolis. Not saying there are no good lolis, just that some animes I enjoy in spite of them.
Absolutely.
Very fair, not everyone likes that and some is indeed over the top. The usual people hate ALL lolis, doesn't matter if its from CGDCT anime which have 0 sexualisation or something like monogatari.
I don't think I've ever actually heard someone say they're against free speech. But I can't count the number of times I've head "Of course I support free speech, but that doesn't include..."
Made In Abyss still has probably some of the best art and worldbuilding in manga ever, and I genuinely wish to explore its world more.
Unfortunately its main cast looks like it does, and not even in a "irrelevant artstyle distinction" way but in an actual "the children are nude and getting stripped" way, which makes it impossible to talk about or even enjoy at times.
There isn't anything wrong with loli characters as it's just a body type like the muscle tomboy. It only matters the CONTEXT in which it's portrayed.
But asking a leftist tourist to consider context is like asking pyromaniac to quit burning shit..
Are they whining? It's a textless post with two attached images. Are they agreeing or disagreeing with the text in the first image? Ironically or unironically? Is the second image a reaction? If so, what does "be so for real" mean? This is fucking hieroglyphics.
How can you even understand what is being communicated here, let alone feel angry enough about it to repost?
Not to mention the lack of archiving of said posts, that more and more often these days go <poof> without a trace.
If there is one thing I'll give "New Zealand Acres" credit for, it is their "ALWAYS ARCHIVE" (caps intended) mentality, something that KIA2 used to have in spades but has severely slipped more recently (considering our beginnings), and I wish people would understand such a lack of discipline has wider consequences (some of which I've posted about already).
Twitter faggots like off drama & attention
these kinds of posts are meant to bait out a response, the best course of action is to simply ignore them, even going to call them a faggot is going to give them what they want (attention)
Is your argument really as retarded as it sounds? Are you actually calling them a hypocrite for distinguishing between liking child characters and being sexually attracted to child characters?
touhou is shit and i will kill every one of you on this hill so come at me
Sometimes I wonder how it must feel like to live with a case of terminal shit taste.
ma'am that's a mirror
Sir, Heartfelt Nekoromancer is the most kino of fanarts. What sort of pleb would feel differently.