'Star Trek: Discovery' - How This Show Still Running?
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I used to know plenty of people that were into TNG, DS9, etc.
I've never met a single person "in the wild" who watches Discovery. Literally, not a single person. I have met some who watched Picard, and the response is almost always "Well, it's so nice to see the gang back together again..."
Star Trek is dead at this point. What remains is unrecognizable to what we loved and largely indistinguishable from Star Wars.
Apparently Picard season 3 isn't complete shit. I'm still not watching it though.
Modern media is usually awful, and wears the name of the old like a skin suit. On top of that, the bar is so low that stuff that isn't complete shit (but still bad) seems good and people rave about it. Like I'm sure Picard season 3 is about a 5/10 at best but in comparison it's like a gold mine compared to season one and two.
It was around that time that all the normie right wingers in the "culture war" sphere on Youtube (like Nerdrotic, Critical Drinker, Az, and the like) started shilling for Picard season 3, that I unsubbed from all of them. Previously, they had been telling people to stay away from Picard, rightfully mocking it with how bad it had ruined star Trek, and pointed out what the writers, producers, and actors had been saying (the usual "fans are racists if they don't like our humiliation ritual slop"), and yet, they all turned on a dime, ready to support "currrent thing", because it injected all manner of "remember when..." and fan service, which they previously had lambasted in other shows which tried to do the same thing, manipulating people to try to bring fans back. Keep in mind, too, that these are the same morons who think we'll win the culture war "when the money runs out", and even though they admitted in their own reviews that the same people who created seasons 1 and 2 were still at the same company making season 3, they were still telling people to consume product.
I felt like I was taking crazy pills seeing them all contradict themselves. When I tried to voice this in the comments, I got dog piled and gaslit, from a community that used to pride itself on being "red pilled".
Yeah I follow those guys but I don't agree with them 100%. Every now and then Critical will promote some movie that is clearly woke trash simply because it isn't as bad as what we're used to. That's not enough for me (I no longer have time to watch every movie so I can be picky if I want and grrlboss movies are hard next every time now) but everyone is different.
If grifters were a threat to the system, they wouldn't be allowed to speak. There are many people who've been permanently banned on YouTube for speaking the real damning truth. Any grifter whose income is reliant on the very system they supposedly deteste cannot possibly be an effective critic of it.
I honestly just wish anyone who dislikes the culture war would stop paying grifters any attention. This whole culture around people saying things on the internet and making money off of saying things is part of the whole problem.
The people I listed, I'm pretty sure, do know the verboten subjects. There were several occasions in their live streams where they broached into verboten but relevant topics, began to stray outside the curated boundaries, stopped themselves, and then changed the subject.
This means they should know that the ideas and solutions they're advocating are false. The biggest, is that they still advocate that what we're seeing is due to greed and incompetence. While those do play a part, they're in service to the true motivation, which is malice. Not only are their conversations sticking within the curated confines, their judgments are as well. I'd argue that a lot of red pills can still be dispensed even on censored platforms like Youtube. You can't talk about true causes to problems, but you can talk about all the ancillary effects of those problems, connect the dots, make sound judgments, and refute false information.
However, these grifters are sacrificing accurate discourse for money, truth for greed. Good people don't do that. It means they're untrustworthy. We have enough liars as it is.
Drinker put out his "review" before season 3 even released. He had a little exchange with the showrunner on twitter.
I don't know what's sadder: getting 'paid' in twitter chats to shill garbage, or shilling garbage for free because senpai noticed you.
I also don't get why people were falling over themselves to praise the S3 showrunner. He was, like, a grip or something on Voyager and everyone was acting like he was the second coming of Ron Moore.
Yeah, exactly. I watched Season 1 of Discovery. I was willing to give it a chance, and it's true that most Treks started slow in season 1. (It's also true that most Treks had some EXCELLENT season 1 episodes. This was not true of Discovery.)
No, it got worse as it went on, and I only made it a couple of episodes into season 2.
Likewise with Picard, I gave it a shot. It just kept getting dumber. It wasn't that it was bad so much as it was DUMB. So I quit after season 1. I'm pretty much done with live action Star Trek, though I do enjoy Lower Decks and I'm rewatching Ds9 right now.
I do know a couple of people who watched S3 of Picard, and it's exactly what you said. It's like a victims of abuse coming back for more and being grateful for the scraps off the table.
Lower Decks was surprisingly fun. Hated the first two episodes--which is where the trailer got all its footage from--but it really picked up after that.
I only saw through the end of season 3, though.
Never trust anyone who says that shows change.
If they're stupid enough and with bad enough taste to watch dogshit for 2 seasons, they're not someone whose opinion I can trust if it's any good now.
I met a Discovery fan. He was an older guy and very liberal. He insistented that the people who didn’t like Discovery just couldn’t appreciate that this was Star Trek for a new audience and that they should stop being babies and stick to their old Trek if they must.
Ok I will.
Discovery fans don’t truly like the show. They’re just invested in it being successful.
The only kind who could possibly like it are the types that don't actually pay attention to what they're watching. They sit on their phone doing something else and only look up at the screen when a moving musical score or action scene starts. The show's beats are designed to push the emotional buttons of people like that.
I'd argue, in addition, that anyone watching a show like STD are the kind of people who consume mainstream news, and unironically believe every word.
These are the kinds of people who can be convinced, within 24 hours, that BLM can riot, not have to social distance, and not have to wear face masks, during the whole Covid scaredemic, because the news told them so, where previously, they had been convinced that anyone not social distancing and not wearing a mask wanted to kill everyone's grandma and genocide the people of the earth. Then, when the BLM riots stopped, the news did a complete 180, again, and now anyone not social distancing and wearing face masks were literally Hitler.
These kinds of people are so detached from reality, logic, and logical consistency, that they couldn't see a contradiction if it shot them in the face. Their ability to reason has been stripped from them. They're the NPC meme personified.
I'd also argue that there has to be an environmental factor to this, as this phenomenon has clearly gotten worse over time. There's probably something (or many things) in our food, water, and medicine which is making people more docile, stupid, and accepting of brainwashing.
I’m convinced it’s mostly this. They’re aware that the wrong sorts of people DON’T like NuTrek and so, like much to their lives, they virtue signal and insist NuTrek is the best ever. They just do it to pwn the CHUDS, and don’t actually bother to support Discovery. If they did, the show would be doing much better.
Yeah, I'm of the firm mindset that people like this would loose their fucking minds and be the first to call for it's censorship if they went back and watched the original.
And with 'new audience' they meant the tumblr crowd.
Exactly the same experience. 1:1 comparison.
It's the progressive leftist way. Infiltrate an institution, kill it and then wear its skin like a costume. Then get mad when people point it out.