🇯🇵 Major crime in the news in Japan
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This is how “high trust” societies function. It’s probably how our kids would be living if globalists weren’t destroying our country through immigration.
Conformist yes, but that doesn't mean everyone is paranoid. This guy didn't miss the trashcan - he admitted to stealing multiple times. The reaction sounds extreme, but I have to wonder how much is "ok" to steal for an authority figure and role-model of children?
He'll probably be allowed to make a comeback after some time has passed and further apologies, but he'll never get a big promotion/salary unless he moves somewhere where the locals didn't hear the news.
This is the correct take. Ruining someone’s career over exploiting for an extra $1 of coffee over the course of a period of time is no different than commie fucks hear trying to ruin your career because you didn’t supply money for a kid to get transitioned.
It’s a gross over correction
No, I'm pretty much in agreement with you. I was more speaking in general about how to treat people in authority who do this. They went totally overboard in his particular case (especially taking away his pension), he did admit the theft and apologize, and I bet even most Japanese people would agree the reaction seems extreme. He hasn't "disgraced" himself. I'm sure he'll be able to get another job after some time passes. Maybe not as an administrator, if only because of the ageism there.
Chill out, I'm not the one who called the police. I only asked what people thought the appropriate punishment should be. Getting away with "just say sorry and pay back the $3.50" is too easy unless we're talking about a child.
I would not be surprised if like someone else here suggested the school only used this excuse to cover up some other hidden scandal... or maybe someone else on campus just hated him and wanted to take his job.
It doesn't matter how much you steal, it matters that you steal.
I totally agree I wouldn't really last living in Japan, and if I visited I would definitely be relying on their kindness and forgiveness. all that being said, I would not ask them to change a thing. From everything I've watched and read, their society is extremely clean and safe.
On a personal level, I think their weapons laws are extreme (historical fencing with steel trainers is more illegal there than owning a machine gun is in the US), their work culture is oppressive, their seniority system elevates people who don't deserve it while belittling people who do, and their complete allergy to rudeness is even more insulting than if they would just speak their mind. But this is all coming from a person who lives in an individualistic society were the murder rate is much higher, drug use is out of control, the streets are filled with litter, walking around at night is begging for a mugging, productivity and ingenuity are being outsourced to foreign countries, and degenerate lifestyles are considered a moral good amongst a significant portion of the population.
While I have a few theories, I don't know exactly what it is that they do that makes their society so much cleaner than ours, but whatever they're doing it's working.
Japan shouldn't change a thing.
When you lock it down as much as they do, you lose individuality at the sake of making sure degenerates are caged up.
Except Japan is still full of antisocial whack jobs, so idk if there’s a fair balance where you can toss stones at the freaks but also not get smited just for $3 of coffee
I think most people are aware Japan has it's own share of problems, especially in major cities where the work culture and conformity are at their maximum, but what people find refreshing is that these are an entirely different set of problems from our own.
More and More, Japan's problems seem relatively quaint and managable on the grand scale. There's always a chance that a decade of good governance could right the ship, and deal with the worst of it.
In comparison, people are losing hope that the west can be fixed at all. For many, destruction of western culture seems immanent. I'm not that black pilled, but I can see where they are coming from. In any case, it would probably take more than a decade to resolve the issues we find ourselves mired in.
(Unless this all ends in fire, that can fix issues astonishingly fast. However, that's an even more undesirable solution for most.)
Yep I'd rather have a Japanese lady at 7-11 be fake polite to me than some rude Indian guy trying to overcharge me on an out of date product and then having a group of teens outside the store ask "you wanna get fuckin smashed eh cunt?"
I really miss how the west (or at least NZ where I grew up) used to be 20+ years ago. At that time I'd say it was superior to Japan. But right now it's fucked. Not sure if its salvageable.
You can reverse almost anything except demographic replacement. Which is why they are using demographic replacement.
Not unique to Japan, either. A significant percentage of the western population in Korea lives in Seoul and frequents these same kind of bubbles. I knew Westerners who lived in Korea for years who couldn't read basic Korean, which is sad because it takes about 15 minutes to learn.
But I do think Japan is easy to navigate as a tourist if you pack your humility. I've fucked up numerous times myself, including walking into a hotel lobby with my shoes on. The reaction to that transgression was severe - imagine one of those record-scratch moments in a movie - but was quickly moved past by listening.
This also helped me out quite a bit when my wife's lab brought in a Japanese postdoc. We helped his family navigate US society a bit and we made some lifelong friends out of the deal.
Of all my international friendships, my Japanese friends are the most rock-solid.
we used to have manners (social norms), culture, and a functioning society in the USA too. step out of line and you were kicked out of your community. it worked.
All true. Working for a Japanese company would be hell. I doubt I could endure it. Im lucky enough to work remote.
In regards to martial arts. This might not be a common experience but the kendo clubs I train at here are much more relaxed about manners and other formalities than in the western clubs Ive been to. More physically demanding and more skilled, but just sloppy with manners. Not what I had expected. Being a forigner, at first they do offer you a lot of opportunities to be held to a lower standard. Decline those offers.
Its a good way to quickly make real friends. Theres a lot of value in shared suffering.
'Deference to your superior' is a real thing and very interesting to see in action.
God help you if you, say, run a training camp without permission or at the same time as someone else higher ranked than you are. You will get in some hot water and you will be apologizing. In writing.
I've seen this happen. My own sensei won't have class if there's a training camp going on, specifically because of that. There's an arguably valid reason behind said action, mind, but it's fascinating to actually experience it.
It reminds me of that TNG episode where that one planet was going to execute Wil Wheaton because he fell on some of their flowers. LOL.
On one hand, losing your retirement over semi-stealing coffee seems a bit too much, but on the other, if a system ends up making it so that we don't have to deal with the douchebaggery of Wil "The Douche" Wheaton? Eh, maybe it's not all bad.
All i know is that if i wanted to sell second hard mtg cards to stores in japan i needed to give them my identification and address. And this was 20 years ago. I always thought that was a bit insane
He didn't miss the trashcan though. I don't know why we have to misrepresent what he did. He committed petty theft several times. We can argue whether that's worthy of firing him and taking his retirement payment, but let's at least be honest about the facts.
The crime was theft, not littering or jaywalking. Missing the trashcan is only littering if you leave it there, and jaywalking does not deprive or defraud a business owner. Why bother listing other crimes rather than the one committed? He committed petty theft.
I'm in the US and my office specifically lists theft of office supplies as a workplace violation, which can become a fireable offense. If having a reputation as a thief degrades the reputation of the school and its ability to interact with parents, then he has to deal with how the school and teaching board decide to handle his crime.
I think it's far more unhinged to "guarantee" employment or licensing.
i mean... this was maybe a little excessive...