This rant is in response to the recent Perun video on the Ukraine air war. Guest Justin Bronk (a brit) does a good job until the end, when he devolves into constant whining about the Republicans blocking more US money for Ukraine.
This pissed me off, so here is my rebuttal to Bronk, as well as all the other many, many Euros who have been REEEEEEing about this lately:
Shame on Bronk for wasting 10 minutes whining about Republicans. As an American, I oppose any more US $ for Ukraine. All of Bronk's facts are wrong. The US spent $113 billion on a non-ally where we have 0 interests, all to bail out Europe. Europe has had TWO YEARS to get its act together. US funding ended 9/23 & it was known months before that Republicans in the House would block it. So over 6 months of warning. And here we still have the Euros whining instead of STEPPING UP.
Europe's GDP is 10x Russia's. Europe can easily supply Ukraine itself without the US. If Europe chooses not to, Ukraine's hardships will be on Europe's hands, not America's. America needs to draw down in Europe & pivot to China. And contrary to Bronk's talking points, US asian ALLIES (unlike Ukraine) will not lose confidence in the US because the US puts Asia first instead of putting Europe first.
Bronk & his fellow policy elites can cry all they want, but at the end of the day Europe is just trying to manipulate American taxpayers into paying Europe's bills so the selfish Europeans don't have to cut welfare spending to accommodate higher defense budgets. It is a betrayal of the US taxpayer to take American $ and use it to subsidize rich rival Euro welfare states.
It isn't happening. We will block it. Man up. Step up. Spend your €, eat the cost, & take care of your own security, Europe. America is sick & tired of you. You're like a 40 year old man still living with his parents. If Ukraine falls, it will only be because you let it happen & the consequences will be borne by you, not us.
When Chamberlain appeased Hitler at Munich, no one said "hOw cOuLd aMeRiCa dO tHiS?!" because everyone knew that Hitler was Europe's problem to deal with, not America's.
After World War 2 the US took the burden of securing Europe because the Euros were simply too weak to credibly deter the USSR. Faced with a choice of having the USSR overrun all of Europe then come for the US next, America decided prevention was better.
After the fall of the USSR in 1992, America no longer had any reason to stay in Europe in any big way. We didn't leave because of bureaucratic inertia & entrenched special interests, but we should have. This caused the Euros to cut their defense spending to the bone & shift that money into their social welfare spending, leaving the US taxpayer to pick up the tab for their security.
This transfer of wealth from the US to Europe has persisted for 30 years, primarily thanks to US liberal neocon foreign policy elites being eurocentric whites with friends in Europe who kiss their ass at social events.
It's time for it to end. The US is in terrible financial shape thanks to Joe Biden ramming through many trillions in additional spending. Our debt is out of control & we could have a fiscal crisis at any time. Biden has allowed - on purpose - 7+ million illegals to flood the country that will need to be deported. This is an operation of unprecedented scale. China is a looming & imminent threat we are sleeping on. The Border & China should be our focus.
Russia is Europe's problem, not ours. The EU wants Ukraine to join the EU? Cool. The EU can pay for the war. Ukraine isn't going to join the US so why should we pay for the EU to expand? Now Euros in NATO are declaring they're going to get Ukraine into NATO. Cool. Ukraine can have America's spot. NATO serves no purpose for America. It's totally one-sided, serving only Europe, not America. Europe isn't going to help the US with China at all.
Fuck the Euros. They'll scream for a while, but they'll get over it. The sooner they realize their paypig has canceled his onlyfans sub, the sooner they can move on & pay their own bills.
Yeah no, dude. Nobody here forgot how hard you shilled for the Ukies.
Didn't even realize who OP was.
This is like watching someone with BPD go through a cycle in super slow motion.
that's idiotic & a great reminder of why I left this cesspool
Yet here you are
And here I thought you left because you got publicly humiliated by my wife.
I don't think he's shilling, but he was rather deceived. Note that he claimed that I am an FSB contractor, so it's not out of any love for him that I'm saying this. He actually believes the US security state slogans "freedumb and dumbocracy", which is why he shills for Ukraine.
I don't care. There is no meaningful difference between someone who was shilling and someone who gleefully guzzled down obvious propaganda.
Particularly with WEEKS of his constant "it's scary how good I am at this!" armchair analysis that a child would see through. Literally all of which was false.
But the spring offensive is on the cusp of success!
I favored helping Ukraine early on when they were under existential threat, but as soon as the war became a stalemate, which was about a year ago, I shifted to oppose throwing endless money at them.
If you want to play a little "NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE YOUR MIND BASED ON DIFFERENCE FACTS AND CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES, I WAS AGAINST UKRAINE BEFORE IT WAS COOL" game then feel free to pat yourself on the back.
They were never under existential threat, because they're a fake country to begin with.
It has nothing to do with changing your mind and everything to do with how much obnoxious crowing you spewed all over this sub only come to find that you never had a fuckin clue what you were talking about.
Europe DOESN'T have the military industrial complex to fight Russia, it doesn't have the arms manufacturing base so when one shell is used, a new one is already being shipped out or when a pilot/tank driver bails out of their doomed vehicle they can run back to base and get a new one (one if the reasons why the Allies won WW2, their tanks had high crew survivability and mass producing tanks) and recruitment is abysmal as constant degradation of the native population means no one want to sign up for the military and a conscription would lead to an open revolt so they are HEAVILY reliant on US protection.
NONE of these reasons, however means the US HAS TO protect them, FUCK THEM! They had decades to have the military industrial logistics set up to ensure they were ready and spent more resources and time to hurting their own population and virtue signalling. They even knee capped the Ukrainians by saying THE EU would provide the shells needed for their artillery and now that turns out they can't, Ukraine can't use artillery as much anymore and losing territory. They could get more shells from South Korea or Turkey but the virtue signal fucked them.
It's why they were terrified when Trump alluded that article 5 may be a 'subscription model' for those not meeting the minimum as if the US pulls out, they are absolutely fucked.
I mean, they do, they just don't use it. FN fulfills our small arms contracts after all. They have the facilities, they just refuse to use them because they don't want to spend the money.
FAL supremacy. Nothing better to kill commies with than the right arm of the free world.
Exactly, I wouldn't blame the US for a second if the pulled forces put of Europe and went 'fucking pay for your own defence!'
It'll probably be to the European peoples benefit as because they can't rely on sugar daddy America to provide for it all, they have to spend more money on defence and are trapped with stop denigrating the natives to get recruitment up or heads meet pikes in a soon to come coup since there's no one around to protect them.
France has an advanced arms sector and sells arms around the world. Germany is de-industrializing so their arms businesses are hurting, but they do have an arms sector too. Italy, Greece, Turkey too. UK too of course.
They make arms they just don't do it on the scale that the USA used to. we've lost quite a lot of our industrial base here in the USA although not at the speed and scale as Germany. Much of our gear, down to the batteries the marines use are made in China now...
Ok but with all that taken into account, why did they PROMISE to supply Ukraine with artillery shells when they knew they didn't have the scale to do it.
It comes off as an unreliable ally that doesn't know it's own limitations than a world power to be rivaled and yet people champion an EU army?!?
Because that last part is true. The EU is a fake world power. In reality they're an abusive banking cartel.
Are you aware that France and the UK have nuclear weapons?
Yep.........doesn't meant the cucked British government would USE them and I have doubts the French wouldn't use them on THEIR OWN citizens at this point...
And your point is?
Why do people think you can just sit on top of nukes with a dead man's switch in lieu of having a conventional military?
People who think that nukes can replace conventional forces are dumb.
Nobody is going to choose being dead rather than being conquered & occupied. Almost all conquered countries end up making a comeback eventually. No dead people do.
If you're losing a war & you start popping off nukes, you just get glassed since the invader feels he has to glass you now to stop you from launching any more.
Not to mention you need a military to protect and use nukes, and if you're invaded, your only option for self defence would be nuclear suicide.
Because you can - though you exaggerate slightly, it's not as if France has no conventional military. Same reason there has not been a great power war since 1945.
No, you can't do away with your military. No nuclear country does this. You need to maintain some level of competitiveness with your peers. The ability to exercise force judiciously is essential. We are not going to nuke the Houthis over a few drone attacks.
In the bigger picture, the ability to run a conventional military shows that your nuclear arsenal is ready for battle and not just a paper tiger.
Right, but the Houthis are not our problem.
The Houthis are your problem since you live in Europe. Almost all of the trade between Europe and Asia had been going through the Red Sea but now has to go along the much longer route around Africa. The cost of goods is already going up and commodities like Diesel fuel is already being impacted because a lot of Diesel consumed in Europe arrived via the Red Sea.
Don't forget about the pirate attacks all throughout the African coast.
Anyone can have it if they spend the money. It's called mobilization & Russia did it.
Europe has 10x the GDP of Russia. If they wanted to out-spend Russia & drown Ukraine in artillery ammo, they could. They just didn't want to spend the money.
Throwing money at Israel is an even bigger grift since Israel can easily float its own military spending.
Who told Europe to let in all the gimmigrants and caused the Ukraine war and has EU as a vassal state.
Cool it with the antisemitism.
Europe is a joke. You think immigration in the USA is bad? It's worse in Europe. The countries are all overtaxed and dying. The people are weak faggots for the most part. The women control the men and are ugly and crass. Europe is a shithole.
Europe would be better off if Russia conquered them. Fuck Europe.
You just reminded me, I need to rescue some Danish girls before the Muslim hordes overrun everything
How exactly? Increasing our energy prices and blowing up our infrastructure is a strange way of claiming that you 'bailed out' Europe. It seems like you are screwing over Europe for LNG and weapons makers profits.
It's 'selfish' to help people who need it instead of helping Raytheon?
That was when France and England were the world's superpowers, at least militarily. Not the US with its standing army of 46,000.
Social welfare spending has only been cut since the 1990s...
The only transfer of wealth that's taking place is the acceptance of the dollar as the world's reserve currency, which allows you to print money and get real goods for them in return.
Europe has been in terrible financial shape ever since 2008...
Actually, Russia is your problem. Russia sells Europe cheap energy. Win-win. The only one who loses are the warmongers who want to profit from overpriced LNG and weapons.
NATO keeps Europe under America's thumb. What, do you think the US security state is in the business of charity? No, the reason we are your vassal states is because of NATO. As Mearsheimer points out, aside from rhetorical tricks, the US is quite happy with Europe not having a defense budget, because it means that it's the dictator of NATO and with that of the entire developed world.
Maybe we should ally with China against the US.
wow , the one time you aren't retarted you get downvoted.