"The X-men were always woke!" (assaults their own kind if they don't join them)
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"The Blob"
This is what a comically obese person looked like in 1964.
Homer Simpson's weight of 250lbs was considered comically obese in the 90s
Chunk from The Goonies is another one.
Remember when he got disability at 300 lbs?
not too well, saw it forever ago
Does professor X ever have to face the fact that mindraping people is unforgivably evil, or does it just get handwaved away because he's been designated as a good guy?
Just this panel gets me completely on the blob's side.
Just like professor X, it's acceptable when they do it because they know what's best for the greater good whether you like it or not. Don't be closed minded, bend your mind over and spread your lobes.
X-Men - A group of dangerous mutants who take on the responsibility of self-policing their community for PR reasons
not like the government has any way to counter a guy who can make a town disappear in his sleep.
The power creep really undermined the message. When the X-Men started the strength of the powers was more subdued. Ice Man creates ice, which he predominantly used to make ramps to slide around on. Then decades later some hack writer was all "actually, he has control over the forces of entropy itself and can destroy the whole universe if he wanted". So yeah, maybe killing mutant children before their powers can fully manifest is a good idea.
The fantasy racism doesn't really work because of that. Besides, "mutant" is such a bullshit meaningless term that undermines the sentiment of "race" solidarity and there's no functional difference between mutants, mutates, inhumans and other
DC has the right idea on how people would react to superpowered humans with Amanda Waller and her glowies. It also makes more sense having normal humans like Batman actively working along them instead of ironically, making them outsiders
Xmen have always been filled with both intentionally "woke" (for their time) and unintentionally admitting that the "oppressed" often both deserve it and are actively playing victim to shape a narrative.
If not for Wolverine being as popular as he is they'd have fallen into the shitheap with the rest of the teams like Doom Patrol and the Fantastic Four.
The X-Men are lame. The whole thing started as some civil rights movement parallel. And in a world where people loved Spider-Man, Captain America, Fantastic Four and other people with powers, those same crowds hate the X-Men...for...also having powers. Because they were born that way instead of acquiring them? Who the fuck knows. It was a flimsy plot to begin with at least in-universe. I think that's the whole reason Civil War was even a thing to kind of retroactively fix a glaringly large plot hole in the marvel world.
And of course all the fears people had about them were completely validated when Magneto and Sinister and Apocalypse killed a bunch of people.
Stan Lee debunked that it was based on civil rights movement but that hasn’t stopped people from seeing what they want
There's a pretty strong case to be made that Xavier was based on the peaceful Martin Luther King and Magneto was based on the militant Malcolm X.
...At least, what people THOUGHT King was like at the time. You probably know the truth by now.
Fun fact: In the last month or so of his life, Malcolm X realized the error of his ways and started turning his attention towards the Democrats...which meant he wasn't a useful idiot anymore, so he had to die.
Yea I’ve read up on King. Read Malcolm X’s autobiography and my favorite part is after he opened his eyes. I can see how that could be read into the x-men but Stan Lee said it wasn’t their intention when creating the characters
True. Like how I have proof that Charles Schulz created Franklin as just another character, not a political statement.
In fact, I'll get a photo and post it here tomorrow.
Also they made some new movie about Franklin right? I remember morons being upset about that thanksgiving episode. Probably Gen z. They tend to watch older shows and then whine about them
It's dumber than that because Magneto has the hololocaust thing too
Yeah. He mostly made the catch-all 'mutant' so he didn't have to craft so many origin stories. No time to make up a good backstory for a power, now you can just be born with it. Of course characters that caught on, got well fleshed-out backstories.
Yeah and Tolkien says he doesn't use allegory yet LoTR is overflowing with allegory.
True. I was just saying what Lee said. I can see how people could interpret a variety of things in X-Men
and now they using it as a vehicle to push their bullshit.
Hell, does anyone familiar with the Krakoa era want to list their crimes? And perhaps their delusions too?
they're basically everything they accuse the right of being. megalomaniacs, war criminals, genocidal, "racist", supremacist.
but they're gay and oppressed so it's ok
You mean Dumpster Baby Island?