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Reality of EV ownership + the cold => dead car + wait for a man with a diesel tow truck to save you. (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by NatalieBiden 2 years ago by NatalieBiden +34 / -0
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– TaylorLorenz 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

a white tow truck owner working at 3am to save all the woke tesla owners.

They're probably on their facebook page attacking him for his white privilege.

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– Ahaus667 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

This is what we always knew. Evs require power. Blue cities hate consistent power. People can’t afford to move, politicians profit. Anyone that watched the California political class profit off oil while rolling blackout happened can tell you

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– fauxgnaws 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

EVs need power just sitting there doing nothing to keep the battery warm in winter and cold in summer.

They had to dig their car out and go to a charger just to keep the battery from draining completely and freezing, only to find the chargers broken.

Why somebody without a garage gets an EV is beyond me, really poor decision.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Even with a garage, you'd probably still want to charge them outside.

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– throwawayaccount2037 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Why somebody without a garage gets an EV is beyond me, really poor decision

Because some EVs in garages are literally deadly: https://futurism.com/the-byte/electric-cars-lighting-houses-on-fire

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

An EV without a heated garage is like buying a horse without food.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

California's brown out period, along with Enron's participation, and the fact that they were using the regular brownouts to make commodity trades on the market for profiteering is a crime against humanity.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

>The charging stations are broken.

Is this caused by the cold or just by chicago residents breaking everything?

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– fauxgnaws 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Why not both?

These chargers have coolant in the power cable so I'm guessing it froze up at sub-zero temperatures and the chargers turned off for safety.

The one still working was probably continuously charging cars so stayed warm.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

No wonder all the road trips with EVs I've seen took place in the late spring

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– Gizortnik 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That is absolutely intentional.

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– realerfunction 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

by design

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– Gizortnik 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Honestly, these people need to get a grip. Having an EV is not that much of a problem if make the effort to think ahead, even in the cold.

I have a friend who got an EV SUV. It uses more energy in the winter to warm batteries before using them. He knows it, he literally his monitoring devices for it. His solution is to have a heated garage, and a charging port in said garage.

These people's cars are dead because a) they left their cars on the street for days, b) they didn't charge their cars regularly. If you don't have the ability to own it, then don't buy it.

They might as well be crying that their motorcycles slip in the snow.

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– NatalieBiden [S] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

You seem to be saying EVs are unsuited for anyone with a place to keep the car warm in winter?

Which rules out a lot of EV owners though.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Lotta people don't own boats either.

Sounds like a personal problem on their part.

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– ailurus 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Sure, but

a) most people do not need to regularly use a boat in their lives

and

b) I haven't heard of any governments passing laws declaring that all but one type of boat needs to get phased out over the next 10 years.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Well, yeah, I'm not saying we should transition to electric cars. I'm saying, if you want to voluntarily go out and buy one, you have to be a responsible adult when you do.

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– FatalConceit 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

a fool and his money are easily parted

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– throwawayaccount2037 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

His solution is to have a heated garage, and a charging port in said garage.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/electric-cars-lighting-houses-on-fire

https://driving.ca/column/lorraine/chevy-bolt-owners-battery-recall

https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/recall-all-chevy-bolt-vehicles-fire-risk

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9792017/GM-tells-Chevy-Bolt-owners-park-EVs-outside-two-burst-flames.html

https://www.wbtv.com/2022/09/26/ignition-spontaneous-electric-vehicle-fires-prompt-recalls-some-owners-stalled-waiting-repairs/

https://scitechdaily.com/what-makes-electric-vehicle-fires-so-difficult-to-extinguish-video/

Preemptively, for the rhetorical response: "it's only a small percentage".

Doesn't matter. You can never know if your EV in your garage will be the one to ignite until it happens. Unlike most ICE vehicles that at least give you heads-up about potential failures (warning lights, strange noises/smells, etc.,), the biggest danger from EVs occurs when you're not even in the vehicle.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You know what is also wildly explosive?

Gasoline.

By the way, the biggest danger from EV's is when you crash them.

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You know what is also wildly explosive?

You've seen too many movies.

Gasoline isn't explosive. It's flammable.

Gasoline vapor mixed with enough oxygen is explosive. Which is why we have technologies like carburetors and fuel injection to mix it correctly.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Good thing oxygen isn't in the atmosphere, otherwise gasoline powered cars would be dangerous.

I don't honestly know what you are all trying so hard to defend here.

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– FatalConceit 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I love my eMTB. It flies. But I just had to replace the battery at $999 (AU) - after it had done 6500 kms. After adding charging costs to that it basically came down to 20 c per kilometre not including cost of the bike, whilst the petrol cost for my car is 19c per kilometre. So apart from the fact its a cool bike its not actually cheaper to run than the petrol car (which is an x5).

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– NatalieBiden [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I was looking at plugin cars and came to the same conclusion- I would pay $10,000 extra for the plugin version.

The per mile costs would be cheaper. So after 100,000 miles I would have saved $10,000.

But lithium ion batteries have needed replacing in every device I have ever owned. So I would have increased future battery repair costs.

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– FatalConceit 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Pure EV just isn't viable in regional Australia - you basically have to go at least Hybrid. And as Toyota Says it can produce 6 plug in Hybrids for the same rare earth materials as 1 full EV. (It can also produce 90 non-plug-in hybrids for same materials usage). https://energyminute.ca/news/toyotas-1690-rule-the-case-for-hybrids/

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– deleted 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0
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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They're very reliable (when the owner is not a moron), and they are good for local driving. Doesn't need to be vanity.

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– FatalConceit 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

given the cost differential with ICE , YES it does have to be Vanity

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