Now I'm wondering what this is even going to look like. Leaked FBI documents showed that they tried to redirect White Nationalists into religion (i.e. Christian Nationalism instead). I'm guessing that will be part of it. I also expect a fresh batch of astroturfed "Breadtubers discuss masculinity" nonsense and promoting of garbage like r/MensLib.
I don't even get why they're so alarmed by incels in particular. There's really not much difference between their worldview and trannies (same sort of spiteful mutant/queer theory logic), and the feds adore trannies.
Maybe they will funnel try to funnel people into being trannies. There's already pro-tranny momentum there, as we've seen from the likes of TheImp.
There's really not much difference between their worldview and trannies (same sort of spiteful mutant/queer theory logic)
Incels are a threat because they can still be lead down a positive path, if they are guided in the right direction. Those in control can't do much about self-reliant men that could then fight or survive their way out of this mess when things collapse.
If they turn into trannies, they'll be self-destructive minions at the forefront of the sociopolitical agenda that's currently being pushed. You'll have a lot more ineffectual "women" that can't lift a finger against the state.
Sure, both types achieve the end goals of lowering population, but the first one can become a threat to their power.
Edit: I should also note that more recently "incel" is being loosely used like "nazi". It could just mean anyone that speaks against feminism or criticizing female behavior, or the actual meaning of "involuntary celibate"
I can see that. I guess looking at this big picture wise, they would rather funnel dissidents into inceldom. From there, they will try to pull them into being trannies. The ones who won't, go along will get cracked down on because of fear that they will pull out of it. I suppose it makes some measure of sense.
Not really, a new elite class challenging an old one or outside meddling are what tends to cause them. Disgruntled peasant revolts get put down easily.
My theory is, the hate against "incels" primarily comes from older millennial women seeing the wall on the horizon. Notice that they don't complain about "nice guys" anymore. Being called a worn-out whore was funny for women in the late teens and early 20s, when they could brush it off. Now, it hits closer to home. Lonely men didn't suddenly become more dangerous, but women feel a lot more threatened by them now than they used to, not for being dangerous, but being honest. That translates easily into making lonely men a domestic enemy. And with how many washed-out career women hold middle management positions in every institution, you've got the perfect intersection of true believers and cynical power to create the incel scare.
And with how many washed-out career women hold middle management positions in every institution, you've got the perfect intersection of true believers and cynical power to create the incel scare.
Going after incels politically aligns the feds and near-wall women. It means means opposing the feds also means opposing near-wall women and their neurotic fears and outrage. Not only is that a difficult big-picture social hurdle, many of them individually hold power of you, and will vindictively use it.
Paying for one agent to control one position in one institution is expensive, and you run the risk of being exposed or betrayed. Same goes for bribes. Alternatively, paying for these studies and going after lonely men (the least sympathetic demographic) is buying millions of sympathizers for $1 a pop.
I think, basically, some amount of propaganda isn't working on them. And they're considered irritable or discontent. It seems that regressives also want to paint incels as inherently violent because they hate how women behave in relationships.
But a lot of propaganda does work on them. If I were a fed tasked with managing incels, I would just spin up shill farms to target sites like this and unleash a steady drip of "local woman acts like dumb bitch on social media posts," and they would gobble that shit up in a circle jerk of rage and blackpilling until they die of old age, off themselves, or troon out.
I don't even get why they're so alarmed by incels in particular.
The feminists have been slurring the entire Manosphere (and everyone else they don't like) as incels and the regime goes along with it out of a mixture of ignorance and malice. The incels themselves are useful boogymen, but they pose no real threat because they can still be controlled by the prospect of getting laid if they're ever offered a carrot that they find credible. In theory MGTOW and to a lesser extent The Red Pill are serious problems for the feminist regime since they threaten to blow up the AF/BB scam. In practice there are too many simps for MGTOW to reach the critical mass it would need to bring Clown World crashing down, so it's just a pretext to go after men.
promoting of garbage like r/MensLib
Don't forget its retarded little brother r/bropill. Sticking things up your ass is totally masculine, bro!
The "beta bux" strategy seems to be fading away. It appears women are increasingly going voluntary celibate because childless women are outearning their male peers due to factors such as affirmative action and because of hypergamy, women do not want to date down, only across and up. If men don't meet increasing expectations as they age, they'll remain single.
I agree, but there are two exceptions: High income men who are still worth divorce raping and single mothers who need a beta slave to foot the bill for their bad choices and provide babysitting services while she goes out and gets railed by the kind of guys who made her a single mother in the first place. Betabux isn't all about bux even if it mostly is. That's why the retarded housework debate gets the traction it does in feminist circles. They don't mind doing the chores if they're with Chad Thundercock, but they're gong to extract every last bit of utility from Billy Beta if they think the payoff (again usually but not always monetary) for giving him access to her magic va-jay-jay is worth it.
Now I'm wondering what this is even going to look like. Leaked FBI documents showed that they tried to redirect White Nationalists into religion (i.e. Christian Nationalism instead). I'm guessing that will be part of it. I also expect a fresh batch of astroturfed "Breadtubers discuss masculinity" nonsense and promoting of garbage like r/MensLib.
I don't even get why they're so alarmed by incels in particular. There's really not much difference between their worldview and trannies (same sort of spiteful mutant/queer theory logic), and the feds adore trannies.
Maybe they will funnel try to funnel people into being trannies. There's already pro-tranny momentum there, as we've seen from the likes of TheImp.
Dissent will not be tolerated.
Incels are a threat because they can still be lead down a positive path, if they are guided in the right direction. Those in control can't do much about self-reliant men that could then fight or survive their way out of this mess when things collapse.
If they turn into trannies, they'll be self-destructive minions at the forefront of the sociopolitical agenda that's currently being pushed. You'll have a lot more ineffectual "women" that can't lift a finger against the state.
Sure, both types achieve the end goals of lowering population, but the first one can become a threat to their power.
Edit: I should also note that more recently "incel" is being loosely used like "nazi". It could just mean anyone that speaks against feminism or criticizing female behavior, or the actual meaning of "involuntary celibate"
Incel is just female code for low status man. You can be called an incel even as you are actively fucking a woman.
I can see that. I guess looking at this big picture wise, they would rather funnel dissidents into inceldom. From there, they will try to pull them into being trannies. The ones who won't, go along will get cracked down on because of fear that they will pull out of it. I suppose it makes some measure of sense.
Disgruntled, fighting-age men with nothing to live for and nothing to lose are how revolutions happen.
Not really, a new elite class challenging an old one or outside meddling are what tends to cause them. Disgruntled peasant revolts get put down easily.
My theory is, the hate against "incels" primarily comes from older millennial women seeing the wall on the horizon. Notice that they don't complain about "nice guys" anymore. Being called a worn-out whore was funny for women in the late teens and early 20s, when they could brush it off. Now, it hits closer to home. Lonely men didn't suddenly become more dangerous, but women feel a lot more threatened by them now than they used to, not for being dangerous, but being honest. That translates easily into making lonely men a domestic enemy. And with how many washed-out career women hold middle management positions in every institution, you've got the perfect intersection of true believers and cynical power to create the incel scare.
We're talking about the DHS considering them a threat, not random women bitching on Twitter though.
Going after incels politically aligns the feds and near-wall women. It means means opposing the feds also means opposing near-wall women and their neurotic fears and outrage. Not only is that a difficult big-picture social hurdle, many of them individually hold power of you, and will vindictively use it.
Paying for one agent to control one position in one institution is expensive, and you run the risk of being exposed or betrayed. Same goes for bribes. Alternatively, paying for these studies and going after lonely men (the least sympathetic demographic) is buying millions of sympathizers for $1 a pop.
DHS doesn't care about popularity. Their immigration policies are so bad, they might cost Biden 2024.
Your mistake is assuming those are different things.
I think, basically, some amount of propaganda isn't working on them. And they're considered irritable or discontent. It seems that regressives also want to paint incels as inherently violent because they hate how women behave in relationships.
But a lot of propaganda does work on them. If I were a fed tasked with managing incels, I would just spin up shill farms to target sites like this and unleash a steady drip of "local woman acts like dumb bitch on social media posts," and they would gobble that shit up in a circle jerk of rage and blackpilling until they die of old age, off themselves, or troon out.
Hmm, maybe that's what they're going to do.
Maybe that's what they've already been doing for years? It's getting harder to tell what's real vs propaganda.
The feminists have been slurring the entire Manosphere (and everyone else they don't like) as incels and the regime goes along with it out of a mixture of ignorance and malice. The incels themselves are useful boogymen, but they pose no real threat because they can still be controlled by the prospect of getting laid if they're ever offered a carrot that they find credible. In theory MGTOW and to a lesser extent The Red Pill are serious problems for the feminist regime since they threaten to blow up the AF/BB scam. In practice there are too many simps for MGTOW to reach the critical mass it would need to bring Clown World crashing down, so it's just a pretext to go after men.
Don't forget its retarded little brother r/bropill. Sticking things up your ass is totally masculine, bro!
The "beta bux" strategy seems to be fading away. It appears women are increasingly going voluntary celibate because childless women are outearning their male peers due to factors such as affirmative action and because of hypergamy, women do not want to date down, only across and up. If men don't meet increasing expectations as they age, they'll remain single.
I agree, but there are two exceptions: High income men who are still worth divorce raping and single mothers who need a beta slave to foot the bill for their bad choices and provide babysitting services while she goes out and gets railed by the kind of guys who made her a single mother in the first place. Betabux isn't all about bux even if it mostly is. That's why the retarded housework debate gets the traction it does in feminist circles. They don't mind doing the chores if they're with Chad Thundercock, but they're gong to extract every last bit of utility from Billy Beta if they think the payoff (again usually but not always monetary) for giving him access to her magic va-jay-jay is worth it.
But the regime encourages men and women to be divided in the first place.