Actually, if history is any indicator, whites will probably be both fine, and actually excel.
This is the reality of the situation: racial discrimination doesn't actually work.
If you use it to "uplift" or "protect" people, it just makes them dependent on the institution and they inevitably fail.
If you use it keep people down, and the people you are oppressing are competent and capable; they will likely innovate around it and end up with better outcomes than the population you weren't discriminating against.
It's still wrong to do, but whites will very likely preform the way overseas chinese, indians, koreans, and jews did: form parochial communities with tight family bonds for security & culture, focus on saving money and (real) education, and building families in order to create generational wealth. Works every time.
There will be institutional set-backs, but the whites whom are going to suffer the most are any that live in Leftist hive cities that hate them. Whites whom are dependent on these corrupt institutions will pull away or otherwise suffer. In the long term, the institutions will suffer a crisis of competency (see: Rhodesia), and will end up falling apart as a parallel economies are created.
Yes, we'll have one generation that's going to suffer a bit, but the next one will be fine because we'll build something for them to work with.
South Africa is a completely different problem (and even there, whites are responding in the same way).
In South Africa, you have communists actively hunting minority populations and Anarcho-Tyranny. Whites are still the vast majority of the country, despite most of the lies being bandied about. Additionally, White Flight also prevents whites from having to live as minorities where they can be scape-goated.
Despite all that, I actually do recommend a visit still as it's some of the most unique land I have ever seen (especially Cape Town). If possible, drive across the border to Botswana and you will get a different vibe.
Imo it's the Zulu who are a mess in South Africa, but that's a whole other discussion.
You misunderstood what I said. Whites are in the majority in the US, not South Africa. I said that part of the reason South Africa was the way it was was because whites were in the minority.
Ah that makes sense. I think those demographics are changing rapidly as the millions cruise across the border. I wouldn't count on it being that way for long.
No, that's mostly data manipulation. Less people "identifying" as white, while choosing not to count "white hispanics", which is a political affiliation, not an ethnic group.
White Flight only works if you have somewhere to land. Virtually every institution in the country is dedicated to making that impossible. It's not the same as things like Jim Crow where blacks were dumped into ghettos with other blacks. They are dumping violent people into our neighborhoods instead. They are trying to break us apart, not cluster us together.
It's true that we can survive this by clustering together, but we must understand that it's necessary, proactively do it, and resist attempts to intrude.
guy pretends destruction of whites isn't real and the elites just want to divide and rule via ethnic political bosses, if you accept that premise, then of course the elites will let whites have their own ethnic enclaves
We've argued this before, and you know personally that White Flight does work in those grievous enough situations. Hell most of the areas that experienced White Flight in cities were typically Jewish Flight, re-framed as White Flight, not to point out that black populations displaced jews in inner cities and suburbs.
However, again, most situations will not actually be grievous, and self-segregation is already the norm in almost every blue city.
The Left's mission is to cattle everyone into a Lebanese style identarian, sectarian, system. Not to destroy whites. They're just today's punching bag.
Yes, you lost this argument to me before. White flight "works" in the same way chemo therapy works. You'll suffer immensely in the hope that you may live. It's better to not get cancer in the first place, in other words to keep non-White immigrants out.
We're approaching record numbers of black on White murders even despite White flight.
Hell most of the areas that experienced White Flight in cities were typically Jewish Flight
In addition to this being total bullshit, Jews have an ethnostate to flee to. We don't. You support that, too. You support Jews having an ethnostate and are opposed to Whites having one. That's because you loves Jews and hate Whites.
That's why you want Whites to fight Muslims on behalf of Israel. That's why you constantly play up "muh anti-Semitism" and constantly down play anti-White stuff.
The Left is first and foremost anti-White. Anyone downplaying that is trying to get Whites to let out guard down so that the Left can do even more damage to us. It's enemy activity.
Yes, you lost this argument to me before. White flight "works" in the same way chemo therapy works.
You're mad that your parents had to leave, and you are better off for it. That's not the problem.
In addition to this being total bullshit, Jews have an ethnostate to flee to. We don't.
There's dozens, And all of them lean Leftist. America, despite being an explicitly Liberal state, is the most reactionary of all. Ireland, Denmark, Wales, Sweeden, Germany, Switzerland, etc., are all Leftist shitholes who's white populations keep openly talking about trying to replace themselves.
I don't constantly play up "muh anti-semitism". I explicitly say jew hatred because that's what it is. Frankly, "anti-semitism" is just a Zionist presupposition to racialize jews. They're not a race. I've never played down anti-white stuff, and you know that. I also don't love jews, and don't hate whites, so you can cut that nonsense out.
The Left has never been first anti-white. They've been pro-power. In fact, for a long time, they were explicitly white supremacist. They invented that entire concept. Whites just became less useful to exploit.
It's still wrong to do, but whites will very likely preform the way overseas chinese, indians, koreans, and jews did: form parochial communities with tight family bonds for security & culture, focus on saving money and (real) education, and building families in order to create generational wealth. Works every time.
The government doesn't just want to exclude white people, it wants to annihilate them. I agree that parallel communities will help, but mostly in the sense that as huwhites bond tighter together they'll realize that their survival is at stake and actually start self-organizing.
Whites whom are dependent on these corrupt institutions will pull away or otherwise suffer. In the long term, the institutions will suffer a crisis of competency (see: Rhodesia), and will end up falling apart as a parallel economies are created.
Rhodesia/Zimbabwe is a cheery story, but not exactly in that model. The white people were actually booted out of the country, the fields went fallow, then they were invited back. So point A the whites didn't build a parallel institution, they mostly had to leave, and point B the happy ending is only possible because the government of Zimbabwe has some incentive to keep Zimbabwe alive. Western leaders, on the other hand, hate their own countries and applaud the suffering of their native populations.
The government doesn't just want to exclude white people, it wants to annihilate them. I agree that parallel communities will help, but mostly in the sense that as huwhites bond tighter together they'll realize that their survival is at stake and actually start self-organizing.
It doesn't, that's just the most recent rhetorical target of the 'bourgeois' classification. They'd be perfectly happy eliminating 'white' as a concept and replacing it with only sub-groups; that way they could go back to having the Irish and Italians bicker with Anglos, who could then be targeted as a different bourgeois group.
Alternatively, and this is why Richard Spencer is correct, they will adopt the "White Affinity Group" method. By intentionally "racializing" whites, they'll become another aspect to machine politics and identity politics. This is what he's waiting on. He knows, correctly, that white racialism will come to him sitting on the political Left, rather than try to subvert Conservativism on the right.
The white people were actually booted out of the country, the fields went fallow, then they were invited back.
Whites were not booted out of the country (as a whole). Their land was seized and re-distributed, and they were removed from positions of political power. Many whites left, but plenty stayed, and some voluntarily came back.
the happy ending is only possible because the government of Zimbabwe has some incentive to keep Zimbabwe alive. Western leaders, on the other hand, hate their own countries and applaud the suffering of their native populations.
Zimbabwe, South Africa, and the Black Congressional Caucus are run entirely by the same ideology. Certainly Zimbabweans hated their country because they scrapped the country and re-named it. Same with South Africa. Again, these Leftists do not want to kill every man, woman, and child in their country (they just lean towards that by default). At a certain point, something intervenes to stop that from happening (even if it's forgein communists like in Cambodia). Sometimes, like in Ethiopia, they just give up and realize they were spoon-fed bullshit (though this is rare).
The west wants to perpetuate the petro-dollar and maintain the pension racket. Eliminating the entire white race is not on the menu, or even a mild concern. White lives don't matter (to them).
Impeach and remove the individuals. Then impeach and remove the people that appointed them. Then impeach and remove the people that accepted these decisions. If necessary, tear down the structure if the person won't accept their removal.
Rip and Tear at the bureaucracy until it is done. This is a Melian Dialogue being directed against you, and you should respond appropriately.
That's not so easy to do thanks to demographic changes. The Nu Americans hate White people and love this kind of shit. There will soon be more of them than us.
Take a look at those poll numbers again. Red Elephants was wrong. We're getting anti-Communists onto our side.
Meanwhile, it's the New England Yankees that are staunchly anti-populist and pro-Leftist. Lilly white communities and effective white ethno-states are riddled with Leftists. Trump should have won New Hampshire in a landslide. Even with potential fraud, he still lost. Same with Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts's, etc. Almost entirely white states are in support of anti-white policies. Western Europe is even worse.
Meanwhile on planet earth, Trump, as is consistent with decades of trends, won only the White vote and lost the non-White vote. Not only that, if only non-Whites voted, he would have lost every single state.
I should also point out that just voting for your precious GOP - even for Trump - doesn't mean the non-Whites aren't/won't be racist against Whites. The GOP has a long history of fucking over Whites, including the Reagan Amnesty and Trump's own First Step Act and Platinum Plan.
Every trend is heading toward the country getting far more hostile to Whites as it becomes less White.
And he's gained more non-white votes than any previous republicans, because he's actually had effective outreach. Republicans probably should have done literally anything besides intentionally give ground at every turn since Warren G. Harding left office.
The GOP has a long history of fucking over Whites, including the Reagan Amnesty and Trump's own First Step Act and Platinum Plan.
These are abstract claims of attacks on whites. We're looking at actual attacks on whites, and the problem is the amount of whites supporting those.
His effective outreach with blacks with giving them free shit from the government and letting them out of jail.
Anti-White immigration policies, wealth transfers from blacks to White, and letting black criminals out of jail (part of the reason there has been a huge surge in black on White violence) are not abstractions. Try again, hopefully acknowledging reality next time.
the problem is the amount of whites supporting those
A minority of Whites support these things. Majorities of non-Whites do. With our demographic trends, it's going to matter less and less what Whites want. I'm sure you are giddy about that since you hate us so much.
Anti-White immigration policies, wealth transfers from blacks to White, and letting black criminals out of jail (part of the reason there has been a huge surge in black on White violence) are not abstractions.
The couple you listed were abstract, these specific ones aren't even true.
A minority of Whites support these things
A large minority, and in abstract. Down at the ethnic level, Anglo's are some of the biggest supporters of this crap.
I'm sure you are giddy about that since you hate us so much.
Which in turn finally is making more and more people wonder if maybe they should have a more direct hand in things, and that the villainization of "taking the law into your own hands" is more about accepting the boot than anything to do with safeguarding justice.
Talk about institutional racism.
It looks like darker times are coming if you are white.
Actually, if history is any indicator, whites will probably be both fine, and actually excel.
This is the reality of the situation: racial discrimination doesn't actually work.
If you use it to "uplift" or "protect" people, it just makes them dependent on the institution and they inevitably fail.
If you use it keep people down, and the people you are oppressing are competent and capable; they will likely innovate around it and end up with better outcomes than the population you weren't discriminating against.
It's still wrong to do, but whites will very likely preform the way overseas chinese, indians, koreans, and jews did: form parochial communities with tight family bonds for security & culture, focus on saving money and (real) education, and building families in order to create generational wealth. Works every time.
There will be institutional set-backs, but the whites whom are going to suffer the most are any that live in Leftist hive cities that hate them. Whites whom are dependent on these corrupt institutions will pull away or otherwise suffer. In the long term, the institutions will suffer a crisis of competency (see: Rhodesia), and will end up falling apart as a parallel economies are created.
Yes, we'll have one generation that's going to suffer a bit, but the next one will be fine because we'll build something for them to work with.
Until you are murdered. See South Africa.
South Africa is a completely different problem (and even there, whites are responding in the same way).
In South Africa, you have communists actively hunting minority populations and Anarcho-Tyranny. Whites are still the vast majority of the country, despite most of the lies being bandied about. Additionally, White Flight also prevents whites from having to live as minorities where they can be scape-goated.
Whites aren't even close to the majority, and most have to rely on black security guards to protect their property most nights:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_South_Africa
There's even some white ghettos and they definitely aren't doing well:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba3E-Ha5Efc
Despite all that, I actually do recommend a visit still as it's some of the most unique land I have ever seen (especially Cape Town). If possible, drive across the border to Botswana and you will get a different vibe.
Imo it's the Zulu who are a mess in South Africa, but that's a whole other discussion.
whites are doing fine in south Africa, don't worry about it
goyguyYou misunderstood what I said. Whites are in the majority in the US, not South Africa. I said that part of the reason South Africa was the way it was was because whites were in the minority.
Ah that makes sense. I think those demographics are changing rapidly as the millions cruise across the border. I wouldn't count on it being that way for long.
For now, barely. And that is rapidly changing every year.
No, that's mostly data manipulation. Less people "identifying" as white, while choosing not to count "white hispanics", which is a political affiliation, not an ethnic group.
White Flight only works if you have somewhere to land. Virtually every institution in the country is dedicated to making that impossible. It's not the same as things like Jim Crow where blacks were dumped into ghettos with other blacks. They are dumping violent people into our neighborhoods instead. They are trying to break us apart, not cluster us together.
It's true that we can survive this by clustering together, but we must understand that it's necessary, proactively do it, and resist attempts to intrude.
The Left's mission is destroying us.
guy pretends destruction of whites isn't real and the elites just want to divide and rule via ethnic political bosses, if you accept that premise, then of course the elites will let whites have their own ethnic enclaves
We've argued this before, and you know personally that White Flight does work in those grievous enough situations. Hell most of the areas that experienced White Flight in cities were typically Jewish Flight, re-framed as White Flight, not to point out that black populations displaced jews in inner cities and suburbs.
However, again, most situations will not actually be grievous, and self-segregation is already the norm in almost every blue city.
The Left's mission is to cattle everyone into a Lebanese style identarian, sectarian, system. Not to destroy whites. They're just today's punching bag.
Yes, you lost this argument to me before. White flight "works" in the same way chemo therapy works. You'll suffer immensely in the hope that you may live. It's better to not get cancer in the first place, in other words to keep non-White immigrants out.
We're approaching record numbers of black on White murders even despite White flight.
In addition to this being total bullshit, Jews have an ethnostate to flee to. We don't. You support that, too. You support Jews having an ethnostate and are opposed to Whites having one. That's because you loves Jews and hate Whites.
That's why you want Whites to fight Muslims on behalf of Israel. That's why you constantly play up "muh anti-Semitism" and constantly down play anti-White stuff.
The Left is first and foremost anti-White. Anyone downplaying that is trying to get Whites to let out guard down so that the Left can do even more damage to us. It's enemy activity.
You're mad that your parents had to leave, and you are better off for it. That's not the problem.
There's dozens, And all of them lean Leftist. America, despite being an explicitly Liberal state, is the most reactionary of all. Ireland, Denmark, Wales, Sweeden, Germany, Switzerland, etc., are all Leftist shitholes who's white populations keep openly talking about trying to replace themselves.
I don't constantly play up "muh anti-semitism". I explicitly say jew hatred because that's what it is. Frankly, "anti-semitism" is just a Zionist presupposition to racialize jews. They're not a race. I've never played down anti-white stuff, and you know that. I also don't love jews, and don't hate whites, so you can cut that nonsense out.
The Left has never been first anti-white. They've been pro-power. In fact, for a long time, they were explicitly white supremacist. They invented that entire concept. Whites just became less useful to exploit.
That would work, if left alone. Actors in the government who are granted unlimited funds to create the situation will not leave it alone.
So what you're saying is that we should stop with the whole unlimited funding thing.
You're right. Taxation is theft.
Afuera.
One can only dream.
The government doesn't just want to exclude white people, it wants to annihilate them. I agree that parallel communities will help, but mostly in the sense that as huwhites bond tighter together they'll realize that their survival is at stake and actually start self-organizing.
Rhodesia/Zimbabwe is a cheery story, but not exactly in that model. The white people were actually booted out of the country, the fields went fallow, then they were invited back. So point A the whites didn't build a parallel institution, they mostly had to leave, and point B the happy ending is only possible because the government of Zimbabwe has some incentive to keep Zimbabwe alive. Western leaders, on the other hand, hate their own countries and applaud the suffering of their native populations.
It doesn't, that's just the most recent rhetorical target of the 'bourgeois' classification. They'd be perfectly happy eliminating 'white' as a concept and replacing it with only sub-groups; that way they could go back to having the Irish and Italians bicker with Anglos, who could then be targeted as a different bourgeois group.
Alternatively, and this is why Richard Spencer is correct, they will adopt the "White Affinity Group" method. By intentionally "racializing" whites, they'll become another aspect to machine politics and identity politics. This is what he's waiting on. He knows, correctly, that white racialism will come to him sitting on the political Left, rather than try to subvert Conservativism on the right.
Whites were not booted out of the country (as a whole). Their land was seized and re-distributed, and they were removed from positions of political power. Many whites left, but plenty stayed, and some voluntarily came back.
Zimbabwe, South Africa, and the Black Congressional Caucus are run entirely by the same ideology. Certainly Zimbabweans hated their country because they scrapped the country and re-named it. Same with South Africa. Again, these Leftists do not want to kill every man, woman, and child in their country (they just lean towards that by default). At a certain point, something intervenes to stop that from happening (even if it's forgein communists like in Cambodia). Sometimes, like in Ethiopia, they just give up and realize they were spoon-fed bullshit (though this is rare).
The west wants to perpetuate the petro-dollar and maintain the pension racket. Eliminating the entire white race is not on the menu, or even a mild concern. White lives don't matter (to them).
Unless it's donors on Martha's Vineyard.
There is that pesky institutional racism the CTRL-Left complains about. And it's always anti-White, the exact opposite of their claims.
Which is why they project so hard about the issue and have been for generations.
Of course. I hope that mayor gets voted out. Sadly, I doubt many will open their eyes
We need a brave anglo legislator to hold a No-Non-Whites-Allowed Party just to showcase the hypocrisy when they go completely mental.
Shame there are no brave anglo legislators anymore.
why are foreigners in government positions?
A boy can dream.
Again, they're not going to play nice.
Impeach and remove the individuals. Then impeach and remove the people that appointed them. Then impeach and remove the people that accepted these decisions. If necessary, tear down the structure if the person won't accept their removal.
Rip and Tear at the bureaucracy until it is done. This is a Melian Dialogue being directed against you, and you should respond appropriately.
"Just impeach them bro."
That's not so easy to do thanks to demographic changes. The Nu Americans hate White people and love this kind of shit. There will soon be more of them than us.
Take a look at those poll numbers again. Red Elephants was wrong. We're getting anti-Communists onto our side.
Meanwhile, it's the New England Yankees that are staunchly anti-populist and pro-Leftist. Lilly white communities and effective white ethno-states are riddled with Leftists. Trump should have won New Hampshire in a landslide. Even with potential fraud, he still lost. Same with Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts's, etc. Almost entirely white states are in support of anti-white policies. Western Europe is even worse.
Meanwhile on planet earth, Trump, as is consistent with decades of trends, won only the White vote and lost the non-White vote. Not only that, if only non-Whites voted, he would have lost every single state.
I should also point out that just voting for your precious GOP - even for Trump - doesn't mean the non-Whites aren't/won't be racist against Whites. The GOP has a long history of fucking over Whites, including the Reagan Amnesty and Trump's own First Step Act and Platinum Plan.
Every trend is heading toward the country getting far more hostile to Whites as it becomes less White.
And he's gained more non-white votes than any previous republicans, because he's actually had effective outreach. Republicans probably should have done literally anything besides intentionally give ground at every turn since Warren G. Harding left office.
These are abstract claims of attacks on whites. We're looking at actual attacks on whites, and the problem is the amount of whites supporting those.
His effective outreach with blacks with giving them free shit from the government and letting them out of jail.
Anti-White immigration policies, wealth transfers from blacks to White, and letting black criminals out of jail (part of the reason there has been a huge surge in black on White violence) are not abstractions. Try again, hopefully acknowledging reality next time.
A minority of Whites support these things. Majorities of non-Whites do. With our demographic trends, it's going to matter less and less what Whites want. I'm sure you are giddy about that since you hate us so much.
The couple you listed were abstract, these specific ones aren't even true.
A large minority, and in abstract. Down at the ethnic level, Anglo's are some of the biggest supporters of this crap.
I don't hate whites, fatty.
Which in turn finally is making more and more people wonder if maybe they should have a more direct hand in things, and that the villainization of "taking the law into your own hands" is more about accepting the boot than anything to do with safeguarding justice.
"Why, Gary, whyyy?"
Gary:
Yeah, Marbury v. Madison was a crock. We are not a nation of laws.
We are a nation of men, and a state of laws, created, maintained, and controlled by men.
Gaslighting and deflection. Was there a whites only equivalent party that these bigots weren't allowed to attend? Didn't think so.