Leaders 'never bound' by Conservative party members' policy ideas: Pierre Poilievre
On the eve of his first policy convention as Conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre reminded Canadians that he is not bound by the policy ideas the grassroots membership chooses to advance.
Seriously though, fuck this guy. He isnt even elected yet and ALREADY throwing conservative voters under the bus because what does it matter?
He doesn't work for them, he works for the party. The party has different interests than the voters. This is the same problem that US voters have with the Republican party. The Republican party base hasn't seen their interests advanced by the actual Republican party since the 1980s, at least, which is why Trump exists as a political entity in the first place.
100%
Trump is a RINO because nobody can with the Presidency as part of a third party.
He is hated uniformly by both parties, a sign of their essential similarity.
Tipping his hand that he's not actual opposition just loyal opposition
Canada is dead
Been dead since 1963 at the latest. John Diefenbaker was the last PM who gave a shit about the concept of Canada as anything more than a resource-extraction colony & playground for the Laurentian elites (this was why he autistically defended keeping the Red Sign, the pre-leaf Canadian flag, and insisting on having it adorn his casket instead of the latter when he died). And for that, JFK & LBJ actively interfered in the election to the extreme of lending the Liberals their cutting-edge campaign team to make sure he lost the 1963 election.
The Liberal who ousted him with foreign aid, Lester B. Pearson, was as blatant a globalist tool as they came (he aspired to be, and would have preferred being, General Secretary of the UN over PM of Canada) and never won a majority government in his own right, instead having to govern as a coalition partner with the NDP (the socialist party). In his tenure he accomplished nothing except being a stooge of LBJ's and giving said socialists a wedge into government at the highest levels. Yet he's the one who Canada's biggest airport is named after, not Dief the Chief.
Canada's been a dead country walking for decades, just waiting for someone to stick a fork into it. Bernier and the PPC realistically have no chance and will never be given a chance by the TPTB to govern, the Conservatives & Liberals are more likely to form a coalition to stop him before that happens. Best anyone here can hope for is that Poilievre marginally slows things down (because, as the OP demonstrates, he sure as all hell isn't going to actually stop our slide into Hell) before the whole thing goes splat against rock bottom.
Try controlled opposition. Or house nigger if you want to convey the full truth.
Looks like another LIB (Liberal In Blue).
People know how cynical I am about right wingers these days and I freely admit it but this borders on #NotRealConservatism and yes while technically true at the same time are there any actual right wingers that you can point to honestly in any right wing party? Even Trump really isn't all that right wing when you actually look at his beliefs.
Over and over and over again.
In Canada specifically, the actual right-wingers get thrown out of the conservative party. Can I point to any real right-winger anywhere in any politics of any place? Not really because I only pay attention enough attention to Canadian and American politics, both of which don't allow for it. Canada made the Proud Boys for example a terrorist organization. Why? Because they were growing in membership in Canada. You think Canada would actually let any right-winger organize? The government would label them terrorists in a heartbeat.
I agree, which is why I think the whole thing is a joke that we even pretend the conservatives are conservatives. If they're mainstream the Conservatives will inevitably stab us in the back for their own benefit because they're liars and if they're outside the system they're inevitably a glowie op just like the proud boys are. Which also makes it kind of ironic that Canada made it a terrorist organisation at all.
Why do you think the Proud Boys are a glowie op?
No they actually are, it was in a court case, a bunch of them got ousted as feds quite recently and the ones who weren't went to jail, classic January 6th style situation. This is why I never trust a 'right wing' group outside of the system that does street protests etc. and doesn't face state harassment on the level that Tommy Robinson does.
The leader got sentenced to prison though. I might have thought the same as you if he hadn't while others were. It sounds more like they were infiltrated.
The feds are in every organization. There were commies in the Nazis and Nazis in the commies. There's Chinese feds in the USA government and Jewish feds in the Russian government. It's how all their organizations operate. Just because there were feds in the proud boys doesn't mean they were a glowie op.
Maybe not originally, but the fact that these guys couldn't even do counter-intelligence properly is a classic example of. These people are either incompetent or controlled opposition and if we're to believe they're just incompetent then that doesn't make it excusable.
You can't just shrug and go "Well shucks I just let a bunch of people who knew me personally get fingered by the feds purely for joining my organisation, guess I'll have to just go to jail and then when I get out and live my life and then people who thought they were my friends are going to have to stay even longer". Although that seems to be exactly what some people are suggesting with this sort of bullshit.