Leaders 'never bound' by Conservative party members' policy ideas: Pierre Poilievre
On the eve of his first policy convention as Conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre reminded Canadians that he is not bound by the policy ideas the grassroots membership chooses to advance.
I agree, which is why I think the whole thing is a joke that we even pretend the conservatives are conservatives. If they're mainstream the Conservatives will inevitably stab us in the back for their own benefit because they're liars and if they're outside the system they're inevitably a glowie op just like the proud boys are. Which also makes it kind of ironic that Canada made it a terrorist organisation at all.
Why do you think the Proud Boys are a glowie op?
No they actually are, it was in a court case, a bunch of them got ousted as feds quite recently and the ones who weren't went to jail, classic January 6th style situation. This is why I never trust a 'right wing' group outside of the system that does street protests etc. and doesn't face state harassment on the level that Tommy Robinson does.
The leader got sentenced to prison though. I might have thought the same as you if he hadn't while others were. It sounds more like they were infiltrated.
The feds are in every organization. There were commies in the Nazis and Nazis in the commies. There's Chinese feds in the USA government and Jewish feds in the Russian government. It's how all their organizations operate. Just because there were feds in the proud boys doesn't mean they were a glowie op.
Maybe not originally, but the fact that these guys couldn't even do counter-intelligence properly is a classic example of. These people are either incompetent or controlled opposition and if we're to believe they're just incompetent then that doesn't make it excusable.
You can't just shrug and go "Well shucks I just let a bunch of people who knew me personally get fingered by the feds purely for joining my organisation, guess I'll have to just go to jail and then when I get out and live my life and then people who thought they were my friends are going to have to stay even longer". Although that seems to be exactly what some people are suggesting with this sort of bullshit.