The irony here is that this stubborn unwillingness to face the truth about Trump is a big factor in the MAGA deplorability. Having the humility and grace to let liberals be right about Trump would crack open the door to the possibility there are other things liberals are right about, from the facts of history to vaccines to climate change. Republican voters aren't really the dead-eyed zombies DeSantis invoked. But it may be something worse: Millions of grown adults slamming their hands over their ears and singing loudly, "nah nah I can't hear you."
I really can't get over how far journalism has deteriorated. I know it is Salon but still, my God is this bad.
So it sounds like MAGA has a good reason to be stubborn; they’ve rightly surmised that their opponents are children who will take a mile if they’re given an inch. “You admit I was right about X? That means I’m right about EvErYtHiNg!”
The funny thing is this works in reverse. If you can get a liberal to realize they've been lied to, often it has a cascading effect that brings down the entire house.
That's what happened to me. I realized the media had outrageously lied about benghazi. In my mind we were the good guys, we don't lie about anything, it's all pure truth. So in a desperate attempt to debunk the truth about benghazi, I learned so many other things I thought were true were nonsense as well.
You realized it, you had a passion filled desperate rabbit hole you went down on your own.
This is crucial, because in most cases you won't get that cascading effect. You can teach them all night, and you probably can get them to espouse the truth you are saying to them. But you won't have fixed what made them a Liberal to begin with. They will forget how they were lied to instantly, they will still believe in the "ideas" of Woke Leftism and just then associate it with "bad actors" or "mistakes made by accident or ignorance."
If the idea doesn't come to them naturally, its unlikely most will ever truly swallow it down. That's why half of KIA1 was made up of Leftists making excuses for everything in front of them until the day the place became a shell of itself. Every bit of evidence was right there, they acknowledge the sheer extent of the lies and conspiracies they had already fallen for, but they could still deny all of it.
Retard is describing a preference cascade, which is precisely what threatens to destroy the present leftist orthodoxy. It’s why they can’t even acknowledge that things like “grown men stripping for children” and “cutting off teenage girls’ tits” are wrong. If they permit even one hole to appear in their ideological front, people will begin to question everything.
The reason Trump gets a more popular when an indictment comes is because his supporters don't trust the institutions indicting him, for good reason. The funny thing about these shitlib frustrations is that they could make a more convincing case against Trump if they emphasized his loyalty to Israel over America, but they won't go there.
Its even funnier because its right out of their playbook.
Their side Dindu Nuffin, so the law is just out to get them and is meaningless tools of oppression. But suddenly we have to respect the institutions and the "impartiality" of the law when its benefiting them.
They'd also be able to make an incredible good case by showing how much improvement the Blacks had as a group under Trump compared to anyone else. Since, if his supporters are as racist as they say, they would lose their shit over his dedication to that. But that would undermine their narrative so they can't mention it.
showing how much improvement the Blacks had as a group under Trump compared to anyone else
Blacks are a solid 90% voting base for Democrats. Ninety fucking percent. If White people voted like blacks, the Democrat party as it is wouldn't exist.
The only time in recent years that's shifted in any shape or form was when Trump was on the ballot - and that was something like a 2% shift.
It's nowhere near the only reason why they froth at the mouth regarding Trump, but it wouldn't surprise me if some Democrat think-tanks saw those numbers and quietly shit themselves.
Not only that, but he had actual genuine black supporters in various sectors. Guys who, despite all they tried, couldn't just be dismissed as Uncle Toms. Guys who was making people think ever so slightly.
That 2% was likely a huge stepping stone, and its likely if he had his second term it would have laid foundation for at least a sizable chunk in the future to be off the plantation.
Been browsing Twitter today. I can't tell if they're afraid of us or not. They seem pretty confident that some Jewish judge is going to keep Trump from running for President.
I really can't get over how far journalism has deteriorated. I know it is Salon but still, my God is this bad.
So it sounds like MAGA has a good reason to be stubborn; they’ve rightly surmised that their opponents are children who will take a mile if they’re given an inch. “You admit I was right about X? That means I’m right about EvErYtHiNg!”
The funny thing is this works in reverse. If you can get a liberal to realize they've been lied to, often it has a cascading effect that brings down the entire house.
That's what happened to me. I realized the media had outrageously lied about benghazi. In my mind we were the good guys, we don't lie about anything, it's all pure truth. So in a desperate attempt to debunk the truth about benghazi, I learned so many other things I thought were true were nonsense as well.
You mentioned an important factor.
You realized it, you had a passion filled desperate rabbit hole you went down on your own.
This is crucial, because in most cases you won't get that cascading effect. You can teach them all night, and you probably can get them to espouse the truth you are saying to them. But you won't have fixed what made them a Liberal to begin with. They will forget how they were lied to instantly, they will still believe in the "ideas" of Woke Leftism and just then associate it with "bad actors" or "mistakes made by accident or ignorance."
If the idea doesn't come to them naturally, its unlikely most will ever truly swallow it down. That's why half of KIA1 was made up of Leftists making excuses for everything in front of them until the day the place became a shell of itself. Every bit of evidence was right there, they acknowledge the sheer extent of the lies and conspiracies they had already fallen for, but they could still deny all of it.
Journalism in 2023: shouting "NO U" as loud as possible.
Don't forget constant throwing in of tired personal attacks they've been using for 7? 8? years now
Retard is describing a preference cascade, which is precisely what threatens to destroy the present leftist orthodoxy. It’s why they can’t even acknowledge that things like “grown men stripping for children” and “cutting off teenage girls’ tits” are wrong. If they permit even one hole to appear in their ideological front, people will begin to question everything.
Causing this, in my view, is our main objective.
Iron law of woke projection
Yea. This is pretty outrageous even for a garbage site like Salon
The reason Trump gets a more popular when an indictment comes is because his supporters don't trust the institutions indicting him, for good reason. The funny thing about these shitlib frustrations is that they could make a more convincing case against Trump if they emphasized his loyalty to Israel over America, but they won't go there.
Its even funnier because its right out of their playbook.
Their side Dindu Nuffin, so the law is just out to get them and is meaningless tools of oppression. But suddenly we have to respect the institutions and the "impartiality" of the law when its benefiting them.
They'd also be able to make an incredible good case by showing how much improvement the Blacks had as a group under Trump compared to anyone else. Since, if his supporters are as racist as they say, they would lose their shit over his dedication to that. But that would undermine their narrative so they can't mention it.
Blacks are a solid 90% voting base for Democrats. Ninety fucking percent. If White people voted like blacks, the Democrat party as it is wouldn't exist.
The only time in recent years that's shifted in any shape or form was when Trump was on the ballot - and that was something like a 2% shift.
It's nowhere near the only reason why they froth at the mouth regarding Trump, but it wouldn't surprise me if some Democrat think-tanks saw those numbers and quietly shit themselves.
Not only that, but he had actual genuine black supporters in various sectors. Guys who, despite all they tried, couldn't just be dismissed as Uncle Toms. Guys who was making people think ever so slightly.
That 2% was likely a huge stepping stone, and its likely if he had his second term it would have laid foundation for at least a sizable chunk in the future to be off the plantation.
Been browsing Twitter today. I can't tell if they're afraid of us or not. They seem pretty confident that some Jewish judge is going to keep Trump from running for President.