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Future of Europe/US? (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by IlhansBrother 1 year ago by IlhansBrother +56 / -1
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– Smith1980 36 points 1 year ago +36 / -0

I remember I asked an open borders person why he lives in a fancy gated community or why he didn’t take any of these poor migrants in to live with him and his family. He said I was racist

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– Galean 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

I had a similar discussion with a neighbor. She is completely isolated from any consequence and she has no problem with immigrants but she would not allow her daughter to take a bus in the city. She is not saying directly cause of the recent migrant spike but she was unable to make up any other excuses on why she would not allow her to take the bus.

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– Smith1980 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

As a Christian I am all for helping the less fortunate but simply exporting the poor from one country to another doesn’t address the problem and makes things worse

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– deleted 34 points 1 year ago +34 / -0
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– Smith1980 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Well you have a point there. I guess I mean the legitimate poor around the world. Exporting them to another country isn’t a solution. And as you mentioned part of the problem is exactly what you said about destroying their own country and then demanding entrance into another. Trump got attacked for simply pointing out how you have people claiming asylum while passing through multiple countries. That is economic opportunism. You may want a better life but that isn’t grounds for any status

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– Ender910 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Admittedly, on occasion it's also because of geopolitical bullshit, but even so, the root cause is still that they choose not to fix their home countries.

And even in cases where maybe the odds were stacked against them due to a powerful authoritarian government, they still resort to this kind of bullshit when they're presented with an easy opportunity to thrive via refugee handouts. They were given more opportunities than most and still chose to behave like senseless savages.

Fuck em. Quoting Kirk in Star Trek 6: "Let them die."

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– PerfectDebate -6 points 1 year ago +3 / -9

I assume that you live in a Western country and think that the West at large is undergoing a collapse. Do you think that you personally made your country this way? And if there were another country with better conditions that you could make a new life in, would you stay and suffer in your own country and force your family to do the same? I don’t think your analysis is an accurate representation of the situation that most refugees are in.

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– SarcasticRidley 24 points 1 year ago +24 / -0

and makes things worse

If you take all the starving children out of Africa and move them to the USA, what will the Africans do? They'll continue to breed like rabbits, and create more starving children. Meanwhile, the starving children that are now in the USA put more strain on the system, and the problem remains unsolved.

Whenever I try to explain this to retarded leftists, they just end up calling me uncaring, racist, xenophobic, etc. and not realizing that people leaving a country that needs them for a country that doesn't, ends up hurting the original country in the long run.

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– Smith1980 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Bingo. But they aren’t willing to roll up their sleeves and help with real solutions because part of it is explaining exactly what you said. Also it’s very en vogue on the left to be pro open borders.

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– Knife-TotingRat 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

Birth control in the food aid 40 years ago would have prevented today.

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– activated_almonds 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Or just no food aid in the first place. Importing food allows local populations to grow beyond sustainable levels. It makes a population extremely vulnerable to both artificial and natural scarcity, even in a sane nation where the birth rate doesn't expand to match and then slightly exceed the supply.

Of course, all the food aid went to countries that, within a generation, managed to outbreed even the aid, so they needed more, and more, and more.

We have essentially artificially created the greatest famine humankind has ever suffered, and we have little control over when it's going to begin.

Letting ten thousand starve would have been far kinder than bringing forth ten million who will one day suffer the same fate.

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– Kaarous 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

As a Christian, the term "the less fortunate" is a satanic, Marxist inversion that you should avoid. Their evil, barbarous, can't wipe ass societies are not the way they are due to bad luck.

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– bartbertbirtbortburt 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Their evil, barbarous, can't wipe ass societies

I think this is a bit of an overstatement. If you take South America as an example, they're founded on the same Humanist cum Marxist ideologies as the US currently sits on. We have had the benefit of economic prosperity and an unexpectedly resilient anti-Statist constitution. I'm not certain that these will last much longer.

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– woxter 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

And on top of that many of those "less fortunate" instead of being grateful they take you by stupid for helping them out and see you as a weak westerner they can prey upon to take all you have. It is not realistic to expect others to be like you, specially if they have been raised in a different cultural environment.

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– MargarineMongoose 13 points 1 year ago +14 / -1

Anyone who isn't racist is an idiot frankly.

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– Smith1980 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I wouldn’t consider myself racist because I can’t disregard a whole race of people but people consider anything and everything racist. I was called racist for condemning rioting and looting in 2020. Go figure. But saying certain truths gets you that label

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– deleted 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

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