Other than the 1488 crowd wanting to be able to say ‘no blacks allowed’ in certain businesses, I’m genuinely curious what else is in there that should make it get repealed?
I personally would like it not repealed mainly because I would be personally affected by said policy obviously, but I’m curious in the reasons outside of just that, if y’all have reasons other than that, as AFAIK, the CRA violates freedom of assembly in the view of people who have that opinion.
How so? Do you think all the White business owners around you are rabid racists and only let you in their stores because it's the law?
And you still want to give them money?
You don't think there are any other businesses around that would gladly cater to you for money? What about large corporate stores, or "Black Owned" businesses?
If you're talking about banks redlining, I'll just point out that most Black people I've heard talk about this wouldn't want to live in a majority black neighborhood either. I'm sure there were ways to get around it.
It violates freedom of association, objectively. Arguably you can say the government has the right to regulate commerce and businesses offering services is different than individual associations - but it's still a form of association.
Maybe it’s just my general paranoia because of how I grew up (an autistic loner with very few friends until high school, and those friends being the only reason I’m not a woke black shithead today), but since I tend to lurk more than anything, I’ve read how a lot of people here 'weren’t racially aware until I saw ghetto black people for the first time’ or calling the BLM riots ‘chimp outs’ (which to be fair they were super violent so I have no issue with them being called that), or in every thread posted here where the local news hides the race of a criminal in the headline and it turns out to be a black person, but I think while there aren’t Nazis everywhere of course, there are enough people who have had negative (to say the very least) experiences with black people and would rather not have to deal with them.
Because I’m just an autistic nerd who spends his free time complaining about frame data and going to fighting game tournaments, I would rather not have businesses refuse me for sharing the same skin color as a lot of shitty people, but society has enabled said shitty people to run amok so it might just be inevitable.
For example, there’s a university in my state that hosts tournaments, but it’s in a rural area where that entire city revolves around the university, and all the small towns around it are like 65+% white, and I tend to eat at those local restaurants after bracket because I like eating at local, non-corporate restaurants, and I just don’t want to even think about the possibility that the only reason I was able to eat there is because they were forced to by law.
I wouldn’t eat at businesses owned by BLM supporters because they’re part of why this is even an issue, but yeah, I’m just already lonely enough as it is because I don’t really have that many friends, black or white, but it would be super insulting if I went to eat at a restaurant with my friends and I saw that they’d let my white friends in and not me.
Would you rather have a genuine racist throw you out of a restaurant, so that you can make sure you're not giving money to people that hate you? Or would you rather have them secretly spit in your food because they're forced to serve you?
Also, if your friends would ever ditch you because they were allowed in a restaurant and you weren't, they aren't your friends.
No offence but you sound like a major anti-white racist. You think that because the small town is 65% white (this is slightly more then the national average) then they are going to just refuse you service? Not sure what bubble you live in that you think that happens.
I’m not one at all, I’m just an idiot who gets constant conflicting messages from everyone he meets and made a bad assumption that more people are like Kaarous IRL than there actually are.
It's amazing how little I give a fuck about how you feel in this comment.
If your race/culture have become such a liability that the public at large doesn't find it worth it to deal with you.... cry me a fucking river.
People are crapping on you too hard for this. That said, if the impossible were to happen and the Civil Rights Act was struck down for being unconstitutional, none of those restaurants would throw you out.
I know this because people make it very clear when they don't want someone there regardless of whether they're legally obligated to serve them. If these people hated the color of your skin, you would already know.
My own views aren't as clear-cut, but let me ask you this question: do you think that business should be able to discriminate against people for not taking the Coronavirus vaccine?
In Europe, such discrimination (against folks holding a job) is banned. I guess some business owners are rabid Coronavaccine supporters, but you wouldn't know, nor does anyone have to worry about their opinions.
Is that good? Is that bad? Or neither?
Redlining wasn't about race, but about poverty. Blacks were just affected more because more blacks were poor.
No, such discrimination isn't fucking banned in Europe, in fact it was state enforced in many European countries, and just today in my country a dude got 5,5 years hard time for criticizing it (in the same country where a nigger raping a 16yo carries a two year sentence, to add some spicy context to the matter), so the whole point is moot. It already happened, and the same people who support nigger rights legislation also supported this, so fuck them, and fuck niggers, both groups should be deported to Africa as far as I'm concerned.
I suggest you calm down. I clarified my earlier comment a bit. As far as I know, not one country mandated that employers fire their employees for not taking the Coronavirus vaccine, and privacy regulations in many countries even forbid a company from knowing about it.
Regardless, let's say that it's not happening, and just state it as a pure hypothetical. Should it be allowed to fire people for refusing the coronavirus vaccine?
Multiple countries outright mandated vaccinations for various groups, employed or not. IIRC, Greece for seniors above a certain age, and Germany, Austria and Czech Republic for certain professions. In places that mandated vaccination based on field of work, failure to vaccinate would, of course, mean these people are barred from working in those fields, and therefore fired because noone's going to pay some dude who can't legally do his job. (The seniors in Greece would just get fined over and over again.)
Privacy what now? I had to stop going to the only restaurant within walking distance that isn't a shitty kebab shop, because the Ukrainian slut that waits tables there demanded to know my medical history and refused to serve me otherwise, how's that for fucking privacy regulations? That was also state-mandated, obviously, bitch didn't just one day wake up and think "today I should start asking regular customers wildly inappropriate questions", she just did what the TV told her to.
I am a little bit beyond discussing hypotheticals. I've already been treated like a kike in Nazi Germany over a cold. This is a fight against people who have only principle and that's total control, and until they're all gone I'm done discussing philosophy because they don't give a shit about anything except destroying anyone who even just appears to ever so slightly oppose them. Or just a random person, just for fun. We can talk about justice and right vs wrong after I slam dunk the last shitlib baby into a trashcan.
Fewer blacks were poor. A higher percentage of blacks were poor.
There are still, today, just as there have always been, more poor white people than poor black people (in the US, which is relevant because we're talking about the CRA).
The thing to me is that in 60 years of politicking they haven't changed this a bit.
White people's incomes remain average for the US.
Black peoples incomes are below that.
Black peoples incomes haven't improved.
Groups have moved up the ladder but those groups are not black or white.
The perils of imprecise language...
It doesn't matter if I think they should. They did. Still do in more than a few places.
Why does free association only go one way?
I think this isn't really a feasible example for a few reasons. Firstly, most of that was government-driven anyway, so I don't even view it as "private discrimination." There's one or two actually lunatics per, like, every thousand business owners who just wants to trade goods/services for money.
Secondly, even if they wanted to, implementation would be a pain. Are they going to check everyone entering the premises? Are they going to pay more employees to be on duty all the time, just to keep out customers? It's insane. Without a driving force - AKA the government - there's no way that naturally gets off the ground. And, just like with the CRA, I'm against the government exerting power to tell people how and with who they can do business.
I also think the protections about private data is completely different than overreach when it comes to bypassing freedom of assembly. But, even if it wasn't...yes, I'm still fine with businesses discriminating when it comes to who they let in.
As some of the other people have said, I don't want to give my money to people who hate me, anyway. If businesses were especially terrible at the height of mandates, I'm much less likely to frequent them now, even if they aren't actively kicking me out. I just won't go back to the places where they were dicks.
Absolutely let the fuckers discriminate. They're lunatics, and deserve to go out of business. Let me know who they are, so I can discriminate against them.