Isn't this old news? Swear there was a post about this months ago...
And I'll reiterate what I said then, the African thing is stupid given how many Africans were in Asia in general at that time so using one as a shinobi is stupid, there were a few cases of female samauri but they'd be better as a Shinobi ironically as women can easily access certain areas most men can't so make effective spies and assassins.
Yasuke did not exist. Copy-pasting an older comment about this...
The sole argument for the existence of Yasuke is the Jesuit chronicles of their missions to Japan. Which were filled with nonsense and aren't taken seriously by most Catholics. Several of them were bloating their accounts in hopes of a bishopric.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his own writings. Which given that Nobunaga would write poems about pretty much anything he laid eyes on, suggests that the two never met. The sole corroborating account stated that one of the missionary priests had a black servant, and they presented him as a curiosity to Nobunaga's court, but there is evidence of nothing else.
Here's another strain on historical credulity. Supposedly Yasuke fought for Nobunaga as a samurai. One of the claims is that he spoke fluent Japanese.
The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.
A black guy from what would now be Morocco, probably a slave to the priests, and someone whose language skills would have included mostly broken Portuguese, supposedly learned the second most difficult language on earth in three months. For reference, Japanese has three goddamn formal alphabets.
There is nothing about the story that is historically credible. There is more evidence of Santa Claus than there is of Yasuke. Now if you want a Japanese historical figure that is actually interesting and actually real, I suggest Honda Tadakatsu. He's a real life Hercules.
Now, now, let’s be fair. Kids can only consent when it’s a queer pairing. That way they’re allowed to explore their sexuality. When it’s straight, though, it’s evil.
Unless it's an older woman, what boy wouldn't want an old hag raping them...
That one pisses me off more as I've heard even 'right' leaning people go 'heyyy' when they hear a female teacher raped a male student. It's one of the reasons I'm alright with Shoeonhead because she goes 'they get the chipper too'
Yeah, the african guy was acquired by Oda Nobunaga because some foreign trader or missionary had him and Nobunaga was like "what the fuck are you, you work for me now". Nobunaga was a rather impulsive figure, and the guy that rose from a provincial lord to unifier of the warring states through sheer strategic genius, balls and a lot of luck.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his writing. Which is strange as Nobunaga would write poems about everything and a black person in Japan would stand out quite a lot.
Ok. I remember when I first heard about it, it sounded interesting. Why not have him as a playable character you can unlock or something. If it’s true that you can’t play as a Japanese male in a game set during the feudal period that is beyond ridiculous
They could have the women be a geisha (disguised as one, I guess she would be a kunoichi) and make it a far less actiony style of stealth game reminiscente of the times you would use blending in to a crowd in those games as opposed to running around and hiding in a bush.
Then have the black dude as a samurai as some daimyo's pet project like those people who get the same pet as a president. His style would be the more actiony one.
Then have a japanese dude that is the middle ground and is the properly trained, big clan, shinobi.
Sadly now I'm picturing a game that will probably be 10 times better with story from 3 distinct walks of life that could depict ancient cultures and the differences in how the people around you would react to the various characters.
Was that the one where they modded the engine to the point it supported Call of Duty action sequences in a legitimately impressive technical feat, but torpedoed the whole project by letting a guy write a bunch of slave and foot fetish stuff?
Oh it got worse, much worse. This video and the followup video both by Rimmy explains it all
It got bad to the point you had an under age va doing sexual voice lines, an under age character being sexual and a possible pedo as part of the 'dev team'
The male ninja would have a mix of both so you could always just play him actiony. But I see your point. I just hate that storytelling is dying when it doesn't have to.
Because that can almost make some sense; using her wiles and feminine charm to access secure areas as a ninja and perform stealth executions.
They're going to obviously tell a woke story about how female samurai were oppressed and she has to overcome the patriarchy and show she's just as strong as men.
i mean if you told the ancient samurai about female warriors, most of them would probably secretly laugh if not outright.
There's a reason why even though some noble women were trained in archery/naginata, they didn't really take part in battlefields but were more like the last line of defense when shit's gone to hell
Isn't this old news? Swear there was a post about this months ago...
And I'll reiterate what I said then, the African thing is stupid given how many Africans were in Asia in general at that time so using one as a shinobi is stupid, there were a few cases of female samauri but they'd be better as a Shinobi ironically as women can easily access certain areas most men can't so make effective spies and assassins.
Yeah, but to the liberal mind, since Yasuke existed, obviously 500% of the Japanese population must have been black.
Yasuke did not exist. Copy-pasting an older comment about this...
The sole argument for the existence of Yasuke is the Jesuit chronicles of their missions to Japan. Which were filled with nonsense and aren't taken seriously by most Catholics. Several of them were bloating their accounts in hopes of a bishopric.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his own writings. Which given that Nobunaga would write poems about pretty much anything he laid eyes on, suggests that the two never met. The sole corroborating account stated that one of the missionary priests had a black servant, and they presented him as a curiosity to Nobunaga's court, but there is evidence of nothing else.
Here's another strain on historical credulity. Supposedly Yasuke fought for Nobunaga as a samurai. One of the claims is that he spoke fluent Japanese.
The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.
A black guy from what would now be Morocco, probably a slave to the priests, and someone whose language skills would have included mostly broken Portuguese, supposedly learned the second most difficult language on earth in three months. For reference, Japanese has three goddamn formal alphabets.
There is nothing about the story that is historically credible. There is more evidence of Santa Claus than there is of Yasuke. Now if you want a Japanese historical figure that is actually interesting and actually real, I suggest Honda Tadakatsu. He's a real life Hercules.
Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiittttttttttttttt.
We wuz samurai n shieeet
every time
I am starting to notice a pattern...
One of my best, thanks for the shout out.
So it was you! I'll credit you if I have to say this again.
But also in their minds kids can consent so I put the opinion of a goldfish higher than theirs.
Now, now, let’s be fair. Kids can only consent when it’s a queer pairing. That way they’re allowed to explore their sexuality. When it’s straight, though, it’s evil.
Unless it's an older woman, what boy wouldn't want an old hag raping them...
That one pisses me off more as I've heard even 'right' leaning people go 'heyyy' when they hear a female teacher raped a male student. It's one of the reasons I'm alright with Shoeonhead because she goes 'they get the chipper too'
Is that African samurai legend true? Since I heard it in the last few years I’m skeptical
Yeah, the african guy was acquired by Oda Nobunaga because some foreign trader or missionary had him and Nobunaga was like "what the fuck are you, you work for me now". Nobunaga was a rather impulsive figure, and the guy that rose from a provincial lord to unifier of the warring states through sheer strategic genius, balls and a lot of luck.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his writing. Which is strange as Nobunaga would write poems about everything and a black person in Japan would stand out quite a lot.
Ok. I remember when I first heard about it, it sounded interesting. Why not have him as a playable character you can unlock or something. If it’s true that you can’t play as a Japanese male in a game set during the feudal period that is beyond ridiculous
They could have the women be a geisha (disguised as one, I guess she would be a kunoichi) and make it a far less actiony style of stealth game reminiscente of the times you would use blending in to a crowd in those games as opposed to running around and hiding in a bush.
Then have the black dude as a samurai as some daimyo's pet project like those people who get the same pet as a president. His style would be the more actiony one.
Then have a japanese dude that is the middle ground and is the properly trained, big clan, shinobi.
Sadly now I'm picturing a game that will probably be 10 times better with story from 3 distinct walks of life that could depict ancient cultures and the differences in how the people around you would react to the various characters.
Welcome to the Bethesda modding Community, with a 90% hit ratio for making story based expansions BETTER than Bethesda can make
The 10% is Fallout NV Frontier........we try not to talk about that anymore....
Was that the one where they modded the engine to the point it supported Call of Duty action sequences in a legitimately impressive technical feat, but torpedoed the whole project by letting a guy write a bunch of slave and foot fetish stuff?
Oh it got worse, much worse. This video and the followup video both by Rimmy explains it all
It got bad to the point you had an under age va doing sexual voice lines, an under age character being sexual and a possible pedo as part of the 'dev team'
the downfall with this style is that you would have to play as a negro to get the action playstyle
The male ninja would have a mix of both so you could always just play him actiony. But I see your point. I just hate that storytelling is dying when it doesn't have to.
Why didn't they just go with a female Ninja then?
Because that can almost make some sense; using her wiles and feminine charm to access secure areas as a ninja and perform stealth executions.
They're going to obviously tell a woke story about how female samurai were oppressed and she has to overcome the patriarchy and show she's just as strong as men.
No, this is Ubisoft. They are just going to pretend that this female samurai was a perfectly natural thing with all of the characters acting as such.
i mean if you told the ancient samurai about female warriors, most of them would probably secretly laugh if not outright.
There's a reason why even though some noble women were trained in archery/naginata, they didn't really take part in battlefields but were more like the last line of defense when shit's gone to hell
I heard this too as a rumor. I would imagine most samurai were men? Also isn’t this just a little insulting to Japanese culture assuming it’s true?
Seeing as most women were wives or concubines in ancient Japan, yes it's kinda ridiculous but a black character in ancient Japan is ever sillier.
This is where someone in game development says hey guys let’s have Japanese characters
It is old news, it was a rumor back then so I assume now it is fact. For the woman, they are probably going to make her some valley feminist